Page 1 of 1

ABs v Ireland

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:10 pm
by J Dory
The teams....

All Blacks:
15 Will Jordan, 14 Leroy Carter, 13 Quinn Tupaea, 12 Jordie Barrett, 11 Caleb Clarke, 10 Beauden Barrett, 9 Cam Roigard, 8 Peter Lakai, 7 Ardie Savea, 6 Simon Parker, 5 Fabian Holland, 4 Scott Barrett (c), 3 Fletcher Newell, 2 Codie Taylor, 1 Ethan de Groot
Replacements: 16 Samisoni Taukei’aho, 17 Tamaiti Williams, 18 Pasilio Tosi, 19 Josh Lord, 20 Wallace Sititi, 21 Cortez Ratima, 22 Leicester Fainga’anuku, 23 Damian McKenzie

Ireland:
15 Jamie Osborne, 14 Tommy O’Brien, 13 Garry Ringrose, 12 Stuart McCloskey, 11 James Lowe, 10 Jack Crowley, 9 Jamison Gibson-Park, 8 Jack Conan, 7 Josh van der Flier, 6 Ryan Baird, 5 Tadhg Beirne, 4 James Ryan, 3 Tadhg Furlong, 2 Dan Sheehan (c), 1 Andrew Porter
Replacements: 16 Ronan Kelleher, 17 Paddy McCarthy, 18 Finlay Bealham, 19 Iain Henderson, 20 Caelan Doris, 21 Craig Casey, 22 Sam Prendergast, 23 Bundee Aki

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:43 pm
by paddy no 11
It's an old, out of form, unfit Irish team

Only 5/15 could be considered to be in form

Doris hasn't played since shoulder surgery etc

How good are lakai and parker?

The Irish backrow is there to be cleaned out, honestly think nz could win by 30 if they click on the day

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:31 pm
by paddy no 11
Terrible decision on red

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:40 pm
by Lizard
Nice to see a couple All Black passes stick for a change.

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:41 pm
by Lizard
paddy no 11 wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:31 pm Terrible decision on red
I get what you mean, but a shoulder direct to the head is red under the current framework, no matter how accidental.

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:06 pm
by paddy no 11
r ainganukus glorious locks the highlight for nz so far

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:11 pm
by paddy no 11
Lizard wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:41 pm
paddy no 11 wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:31 pm Terrible decision on red
I get what you mean, but a shoulder direct to the head is red under the current framework, no matter how accidental.
There's about a 100 decisions I could reference this year where that hasn't applied, no more a red than Clarke forearming tommy o brien in the tackle

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:17 pm
by Which Tyler
Lizard wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:41 pm
paddy no 11 wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:31 pm Terrible decision on red
I get what you mean, but a shoulder direct to the head is red under the current framework, no matter how accidental.
Not since week 2 of RWC23

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:30 pm
by paddy no 11
Now that should have been a nz penalty for Ireland sealing off

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:46 pm
by Lizard
paddy no 11 wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:06 pm r ainganukus glorious locks the highlight for nz so far
100%

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:49 pm
by Lizard
All Blacks finally showing some actual intent. Maybe we should have DMac and Sititi on from the start?

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:57 pm
by paddy no 11
The match immediately swung when sititi came on and mccloskey went off

Parker at 6 was absolutely anonymous for 60 minutes

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:07 pm
by paddy no 11
As bad a match as you'll see, all blacks bench annihilated Ireland

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:11 pm
by Lizard
A result that probably doesn’t reflect the match. ABs were dogshit for 65 minutes. Ireland were not great but better for most of the game, but couldn’t lift at the end.

Gibson-Park had a good game.

Re: ABs v Ireland

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2025 6:03 pm
by Cameo
Lizard wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:11 pm A result that probably doesn’t reflect the match. ABs were dogshit for 65 minutes. Ireland were not great but better for most of the game, but couldn’t lift at the end.

Gibson-Park had a good game.
This really. NZ still win most of the time, but can't remember the last time they have looked really fluent. Attacking wise probably only the first half of the SA game that they got thumped in.

I know Mackenzie has his flaws but I think they need to move on from Barrett. He is just not the player he was.

Centres is getting interesting.

On the red, I wouldn't have minded a yellow, but was surprised at the shock that it was a red. No arms at all (with less intent and force, but reminded me of some Owen Farrell classics) and direct contact to the head so a red was always on the cards.