Hunt

[OptimisticJock]

Quite astonished there's no thread laying into him yet.

[caldeyrfc]

He makes an ell look like it's covered in sand paper Complete waste of time, I've lost count the amount of times I've heard Eddie Mair say on PM when they have run NHS stories that they asked for a Government spokesman but none was available, Labour even presented an emergency question on Monday in Parliament and he was no where to be seen
He must be the most unaccountable Minister ever

[Which Tyler]

He's desperate to be the final nail in the coffin of the NHS

[Zhivago]

Hunt is trying to privatise the NHS in England. Welsh NHS will benefit from better doctors, as they will attract the docs. I think.

[Bob]

Listened to him on the radio. People will buy what is saying though when he "highlights" 13% pay rise, capping hours and only working 1 in 4 Saturday plus of course people "know" that doctors earn loads anyway.

Personally we are going to lose a generation of doctors if we are not careful

[Tre]

Listened to him on the radio. People will buy what is saying though when he "highlights" 13% pay rise, capping hours and only working 1 in 4 Saturday plus of course people "know" that doctors earn loads anyway.

Personally we are going to lose a generation of doctors if we are not careful

Indeed, people are thick as f*ck. Doctors should be paid loads.

If I need emergency surgery I don't want the person performing it to be pissed off with their job.

[OptimisticJock]

Listened to him on the radio. People will buy what is saying though when he "highlights" 13% pay rise, capping hours and only working 1 in 4 Saturday plus of course people "know" that doctors earn loads anyway.

Personally we are going to lose a generation of doctors if we are not careful

Indeed, people are thick as f*ck. Doctors should be paid loads.

If I need emergency surgery I don't want the person performing it to be pissed off with their job.

Or absolutely chinned from working too many hours.

[Billyfish]

A candidate for a new C##t of the Week thread. Hope this falls on its arse and the govt. are forced to back down.

[fivepointer]

He's a lying, dishonourable turd. The constant referencing to a 7 day health service is a smokescreen.

[Which Tyler]

A candidate for a new C##t of the Week thread. Hope this falls on its arse and the govt. are forced to back down.

candidate? he'd be winning it unopposed.... every week

[OptimisticJock]

The twat has launched an inquiry as to why jnr doc morale is so low. Is he really that fucking dense??

[caldeyrfc]

Yes

[glamorganmorgan]

I am normally a very calm person, but Hunt makes my blood boil. I would love to punch his lights out

[caldeyrfc]

Not sure Hammy will allow this but here is a place where you can sign a vote of no confidence in Hunt

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/121152

[Which Tyler]

Not sure Hammy will allow this but here is a place where you can sign a vote of no confidence in Hunt

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/121152

Signed; and shared.
Debate threshold reached in just 61 hours!

[OptimisticJock]

Done

[OptimisticJock]

https://t.co/jXWjlu0tI9 interview with Hhhhunt with honest subtitles.

For clarity Mr Hhhhunt I'll be more than happy to simply "drive" around if you're in cardiac arrest.

[Zhivago]

Deceitful coward
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 73546.html

[Which Tyler]

[Donny osmond]

Thing is, without wishing to sound paranoid or hysterical, I see Hunt's attack on NHS as the "opening"* attack on public services in general. Public sector pensions, teachers holidays, police overtime, senior doctor bonuses, it's all riding on the outcome of this attack on junior doctors. If the govt get away with this, anything and everything will be fair game.

*I know they've been at it for years, but this is the most open, direct, public attack I can remember.

[canta_brian]

It would seem that all the extra money that the tories have pumped into the health service. 400 million according to, well them. Is not seeing a huge improvement in the quality of the NHS with accident and emergency waiting time figure the worst on record in January.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38907492

I am guessing this is all down the feckless junior doctors and can be attributed to the knock on effects of strikes in 2016.

Only sensible solution is to privatise the NHS. The current not for profit ethos is obviously de-incentivising the entire healthcare sector.

[Mellsblue]

It's mainly down to the fact that there has been a huge upturn in numbers using the NHS in the recent past. The govt have provided billions extra, though exactly how much depends on who you ask, but it still equates to less per person due to the increase in numbers.

Other problems are the lack of money spent on social care leading to 'bed blockers', people turning up to A&E who shouldn't, GP's offering (relatively) limited opening hours - this contributes to people going to A&E when they shouldn't - the number of GPs, agency doctors and nurses costing circa £2billion a year, different trusts paying wildly different sums for the same equipment, people demanding perscriptions for cheap medicines, people demanding perscriptions on an ongoing basis for things they can easily afford themselves - food for allergies, antihistamines, etc - a culture that refuses to self-analyse and learn from and deal with failures.
There are a myriad of reasons that the NHS is currently struggling. Some are the governments fault, some are the previous governments fault, some are the populations fault and some are the NHS' fault. Of course, it's just easy to say it's all Jeremy Hunts' fault.
We don't spend as much as a percentage of GDP on health as most other developed nations but, as can be seen at the DfID, spending money to meet an arbitrary number doesn't necessarily equate to improved performance.
We are going to have to make a choice as to whether we alter how the NHS functions and what it provides or whether we all pay a lot more in tax or a compromise between the two. Regardless, the NHS needs to stop being treated as a sacred cow that is in no way flawed.

[OptimisticJock]

It's mainly down to the fact that there has been a huge upturn in numbers using the NHS in the recent past. The govt have provided billions extra, though exactly how much depends on who you ask, but it still equates to less per person due to the increase in numbers.

Other problems are the lack of money spent on social care leading to 'bed blockers', people turning up to A&E who shouldn't, .

Indeed. I only took half the people I seen to A&E last night and that's a common occurrence.

[Sandydragon]

It's mainly down to the fact that there has been a huge upturn in numbers using the NHS in the recent past. The govt have provided billions extra, though exactly how much depends on who you ask, but it still equates to less per person due to the increase in numbers.

Other problems are the lack of money spent on social care leading to 'bed blockers', people turning up to A&E who shouldn't, GP's offering (relatively) limited opening hours - this contributes to people going to A&E when they shouldn't - the number of GPs, agency doctors and nurses costing circa £2billion a year, different trusts paying wildly different sums for the same equipment, people demanding perscriptions for cheap medicines, people demanding perscriptions on an ongoing basis for things they can easily afford themselves - food for allergies, antihistamines, etc - a culture that refuses to self-analyse and learn from and deal with failures.
There are a myriad of reasons that the NHS is currently struggling. Some are the governments fault, some are the previous governments fault, some are the populations fault and some are the NHS' fault. Of course, it's just easy to say it's all Jeremy Hunts' fault.
We don't spend as much as a percentage of GDP on health as most other developed nations but, as can be seen at the DfID, spending money to meet an arbitrary number doesn't necessarily equate to improved performance.
We are going to have to make a choice as to whether we alter how the NHS functions and what it provides or whether we all pay a lot more in tax or a compromise between the two. Regardless, the NHS needs to stop being treated as a sacred cow that is in no way flawed.

Quite, try getting an out of hours doctor.

This has been coming for years but no government has had the balls to tackle the problem head on and design a NHS which works for now and the immediate future.

[canta_brian]

Probably worth remembering that it's not first come first served at a&e. Those waiting for a long time are likely not in any grave danger.