Anti-Russian rhetoric
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Ill leave it to the Young Guns
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It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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You're all Lost Boys
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I can’t think of any films but do expelled diplomats still get paid while they remain expelled?
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I assume they get reassigned, they would remain government employees after all.onlynameleft wrote:I can’t think of any films but do expelled diplomats still get paid while they remain expelled?
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Bloody horrible methodology.
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The Bourne Identityonlynameleft wrote:I can’t think of any films but do expelled diplomats still get paid while they remain expelled?
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A Beautiful Mindkk67 wrote:Bloody horrible methodology.
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It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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MindhornDonny osmond wrote:A Beautiful Mindkk67 wrote:Bloody horrible methodology.
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I meant it was a horrible slow death. Nasty shit.
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Michael McIntyre Live DVDkk67 wrote:I meant it was a horrible slow death. Nasty shit.
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Who stuffs election boxes when you're winning 70/30 having already banned any serious alternative from standing against you?
Putin must be starting to close on Stalin now for number of years as the de facto Tsar
Putin must be starting to close on Stalin now for number of years as the de facto Tsar
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18 years. There was that tenure as Russian PM with Medvedev as the President, but we all know who was really in charge there.Digby wrote:Who stuffs election boxes when you're winning 70/30 having already banned any serious alternative from standing against you?
Putin must be starting to close on Stalin now for number of years as the de facto Tsar
Stalin was in power for 30 years and 6 months or so, officially at least, so Putin's got to put in another 12 and a half years.
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There’s a massive need to look all powerful on display there, just winning isn’t enough .Digby wrote:Who stuffs election boxes when you're winning 70/30 having already banned any serious alternative from standing against you?
Putin must be starting to close on Stalin now for number of years as the de facto Tsar
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“Comrade Putin, we have successfully stockpiled novichoks in secret for ten years, and kept them hidden from the OPCW inspectors. We have also trained our agents in secret novichok assassination techniques. The programme has cost hundreds of millions of dollars, but now we are ready. Naturally, the first time we use it we will expose our secret and suffer massive international blowback. So who should be our first target? The head of a foreign intelligence agency? A leading jihadist rebel in Syria? A key nuclear scientist? Even a Head of State?”
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If they're good enough to play at World Cups, why not in between?
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You might want to have a closer look at the Cambridge Anal-lickita case.Digby wrote:Who stuffs election boxes when you're winning 70/30 having already banned any serious alternative from standing against you?
Putin must be starting to close on Stalin now for number of years as the de facto Tsar
Not only did they legally buy the info from Facebook,..... but the algorithm means that they only have to focus on 5% of the electorate to steer a vote.
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The point is you wouldn't stuff election boxes when you are overwhelming favorite due to your immense popularity.
NATO needs its Russian bogeyman to justify its endless wars.
NATO needs its Russian bogeyman to justify its endless wars.
If they're good enough to play at World Cups, why not in between?
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Having a bad guy is useful to the market.
The Defence/industry/wankers definitely love a bit of war. That ordinance doesn't shoot itself.
The Defence/industry/wankers definitely love a bit of war. That ordinance doesn't shoot itself.
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Indeed.kk67 wrote:Having a bad guy is useful to the market.
The Defence/industry/wankers definitely love a bit of war. That ordinance doesn't shoot itself.
If they're good enough to play at World Cups, why not in between?
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So, the CCTV footage is fake, or originates from somewhere in the UK/US?rowan wrote:The point is you wouldn't stuff election boxes when you are overwhelming favorite due to your immense popularity.
NATO needs its Russian bogeyman to justify its endless wars.
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Undoubtedly something along those lines. He won by a landslide victory. Everyone knows he is immensely popular with Russians. That should be the focus of impartial news reporting on the elections.
In fact, I just had a look at some news about that and read that it was one of the cleanest elections to date, and that any isolated transgressions had been dealt with accordingly. Big deal...
In fact, I just had a look at some news about that and read that it was one of the cleanest elections to date, and that any isolated transgressions had been dealt with accordingly. Big deal...
If they're good enough to play at World Cups, why not in between?
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But you dont live there, so you cant possibly know that...?rowan wrote:Undoubtedly something along those lines. He won by a landslide victory. Everyone knows he is immensely popular with Russians. That should be the focus of impartial news reporting on the elections.
In fact, I just had a look at some news about that and read that it was one of the cleanest elections to date, and that any isolated transgressions had been dealt with accordingly. Big deal...
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Yes, I don't live there so I don't know - and I certainly wouldn't presume to dictate to someone who does. That would be extremely arrogant of me and indicative of some kind of socially ingrained prejudice and superior-mindedness...
But common sense tells me Comrade Putin did not send out the orders to stuff ballot boxes right in front of CCTV cameras when it was always predicted he would win by a landslide.
But common sense tells me Comrade Putin did not send out the orders to stuff ballot boxes right in front of CCTV cameras when it was always predicted he would win by a landslide.
If they're good enough to play at World Cups, why not in between?
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I rather doubt Putin said stuff the election boxes, but people would have known he wanted a big turnout and a big win, so to try and make sure that happened this is what results.
As to him being popular, I'd say it's a mix, and even where he is a lot of that comes back to a media that dare not speak out on many, many issues when they know journalists who do are killed.
As to him being popular, I'd say it's a mix, and even where he is a lot of that comes back to a media that dare not speak out on many, many issues when they know journalists who do are killed.
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The Russians that I know have an incredibly complex attitude towards him. They will privately admit that he is a crook and a thug with authoritarian tendencies, but at the same time express the belief that this is the kind of ruler that Russia needs. The Russian concept of democracy is completely different to what we understand by it.Digby wrote:I rather doubt Putin said stuff the election boxes, but people would have known he wanted a big turnout and a big win, so to try and make sure that happened this is what results.
As to him being popular, I'd say it's a mix, and even where he is a lot of that comes back to a media that dare not speak out on many, many issues when they know journalists who do are killed.