Anti-Russian rhetoric

[kk67]

I raise the logical point again that would the governments of Germany France etc have gone along with May if the overall proof wasn't strong?

There is also the various governments suspect Russia of assassinating folks across Europe for sometime under Putin. Whether political or business rivals of Putin, or reporters who're brave enough to write pieces on corruption and such like

Like our government did to Dr.David Kelly..?.

[Digby]

I raise the logical point again that would the governments of Germany France etc have gone along with May if the overall proof wasn't strong?

There is also the various governments suspect Russia of assassinating folks across Europe for sometime under Putin. Whether political or business rivals of Putin, or reporters who're brave enough to write pieces on corruption and such like

Like our government did to Dr.David Kelly..?.

I thought the fruitcake simply topped himself. If we did off him it hardly stopped the story getting out

[kk67]

There was a very interesting set of programs on BBC4 last night dealing with the portrayal of Russia in Western media (mostly in the bbc, in fairness).
I hadn't realized there was a bbc drama/documentary about 10 years ago dealing with the death of Stalin. Looking at the clips they showed it seems that the new film 'Death of Stalin' was almost a comedy carbon copy of the old documentary.
Bloody interesting. Saul David is my new favourite historian. Vastly superior to that right-wing apologist David Starkey.
The knut.

[rowan]

Why aren't they issuing a visa to Viktoria Skripal? I wonder. The Skripals want to go back to Russia and she wants to take them there. She also broke the news that Yulia Skripal was almost recovered while the Western news was still claiming she was in a serious condition. & just to top it off the Skripals' cat and guinea pigs starved to death while the stupid British bobbies were standing outside guarding the place!

Hmmm . . . you know I suggested this earlier:

Salisbury attack: Skripal cousin claims pair suffered 'food poisoning'

https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-at ... n-11319366

[morepork]

Why aren't they issuing a visa to Viktoria Skripal? I wonder. The Skripals want to go back to Russia and she wants to take them there. She also broke the news that Yulia Skripal was almost recovered while the Western news was still claiming she was in a serious condition. & just to top it off the Skripals' cat and guinea pigs starved to death while the stupid British bobbies were standing outside guarding the place!

Hmmm . . . you know I suggested this earlier:

Salisbury attack: Skripal cousin claims pair suffered 'food poisoning'

https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-at ... n-11319366

Full circle back to the Italian restaurant chain? Non rompere i coglioni stronzo.

[rowan]

Why aren't they issuing a visa to Viktoria Skripal? I wonder. The Skripals want to go back to Russia and she wants to take them there. She also broke the news that Yulia Skripal was almost recovered while the Western news was still claiming she was in a serious condition. & just to top it off the Skripals' cat and guinea pigs starved to death while the stupid British bobbies were standing outside guarding the place!

Hmmm . . . you know I suggested this earlier:

Salisbury attack: Skripal cousin claims pair suffered 'food poisoning'

https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-at ... n-11319366

Full circle back to the Italian restaurant chain? Non rompere i coglioni stronzo.

British restaurant chain specializing in Italian cuisine. They need to investigate the nationality of the chefs. That could settle it right there . . .

[morepork]

Why aren't they issuing a visa to Viktoria Skripal? I wonder. The Skripals want to go back to Russia and she wants to take them there. She also broke the news that Yulia Skripal was almost recovered while the Western news was still claiming she was in a serious condition. & just to top it off the Skripals' cat and guinea pigs starved to death while the stupid British bobbies were standing outside guarding the place!

Hmmm . . . you know I suggested this earlier:

Salisbury attack: Skripal cousin claims pair suffered 'food poisoning'

https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-at ... n-11319366

Full circle back to the Italian restaurant chain? Non rompere i coglioni stronzo.

British restaurant chain specializing in Italian cuisine. They need to investigate the nationality of the chefs. That could settle it right there . . .

Just execute the ones that put Branston pickle on the garlic bread.

[kk67]

Two fascinating articles in the news today.
First up, the former President of S.Korea (and US stooge) has been convicted of abuse of power and corruption, imprisoned and fined £12m.
Second story,..... N.Korea will have a ballistic missile capable of reaching the UK within 18 months.

Don't tell me our drip-drip propaganda is not the same as their drip-drip propaganda... and then tell me it's raining.

[Digby]

Why aren't they issuing a visa to Viktoria Skripal? I wonder. The Skripals want to go back to Russia and she wants to take them there. She also broke the news that Yulia Skripal was almost recovered while the Western news was still claiming she was in a serious condition. & just to top it off the Skripals' cat and guinea pigs starved to death while the stupid British bobbies were standing outside guarding the place!

Hmmm . . . you know I suggested this earlier:

Salisbury attack: Skripal cousin claims pair suffered 'food poisoning'

https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-at ... n-11319366

Full circle back to the Italian restaurant chain? Non rompere i coglioni stronzo.

I hadn't heard a report confirming the Skripals are almost recovered, nor whether that recovery would mean back to what they were or will now have ongoing issues, the same of the police officer.

Why the cousin (or frankly those telling her what to say) think those comments on food poisoning will be taken seriously I don't know, nor why appearing on news panels with the men the UK would like to speak to about he murder of Alexander Litvinenko is helpful. It's just a very daft look, though one says that realising we've got Boris as foreign secretary which is hardly a sensible look.

[rowan]

Why aren't they issuing a visa to Viktoria Skripal? I wonder. The Skripals want to go back to Russia and she wants to take them there. She also broke the news that Yulia Skripal was almost recovered while the Western news was still claiming she was in a serious condition. & just to top it off the Skripals' cat and guinea pigs starved to death while the stupid British bobbies were standing outside guarding the place!

Hmmm . . . you know I suggested this earlier:

Salisbury attack: Skripal cousin claims pair suffered 'food poisoning'

https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-at ... n-11319366

Full circle back to the Italian restaurant chain? Non rompere i coglioni stronzo.

I hadn't heard a report confirming the Skripals are almost recovered, nor whether that recovery would mean back to what they were or will now have ongoing issues, the same of the police officer.

Why the cousin (or frankly those telling her what to say) think those comments on food poisoning will be taken seriously I don't know, nor why appearing on news panels with the men the UK would like to speak to about he murder of Alexander Litvinenko is helpful. It's just a very daft look, though one says that realising we've got Boris as foreign secretary which is hardly a sensible look.

There are certainly many things you do not know then. You need to stop reading mainstream corporate news, which is really only a mouthpiece for government and its warmongering agenda.

[morepork]

Full circle back to the Italian restaurant chain? Non rompere i coglioni stronzo.

I hadn't heard a report confirming the Skripals are almost recovered, nor whether that recovery would mean back to what they were or will now have ongoing issues, the same of the police officer.

Why the cousin (or frankly those telling her what to say) think those comments on food poisoning will be taken seriously I don't know, nor why appearing on news panels with the men the UK would like to speak to about he murder of Alexander Litvinenko is helpful. It's just a very daft look, though one says that realising we've got Boris as foreign secretary which is hardly a sensible look.

There are certainly many things you do not know then. You need to stop reading mainstream corporate news, which is really only a mouthpiece for government and its warmongering agenda.

The food poisoning claim looks fucking foolish. That's all he was commenting on. You throw these noncommittal statements out there in order to project some air of authority, and you do the same with an extremely condescending tone.

You are the Boris Johnson of these boards.

[Digby]

I hadn't heard a report confirming the Skripals are almost recovered, nor whether that recovery would mean back to what they were or will now have ongoing issues, the same of the police officer.

Why the cousin (or frankly those telling her what to say) think those comments on food poisoning will be taken seriously I don't know, nor why appearing on news panels with the men the UK would like to speak to about he murder of Alexander Litvinenko is helpful. It's just a very daft look, though one says that realising we've got Boris as foreign secretary which is hardly a sensible look.

There are certainly many things you do not know then. You need to stop reading mainstream corporate news, which is really only a mouthpiece for government and its warmongering agenda.

The food poisoning claim looks fucking foolish. That's all he was commenting on. You throw these noncommittal statements out there in order to project some air of authority, and you do the same with an extremely condescending tone.

You are the Boris Johnson of these boards.

I was also saying I hadn't heard a report saying either the Skripals or the police officer were recovered. I've heard updates they're improving, even rapidly improving, but not recovered.

[kk67]

Are you suggesting Park Geun-he's impeachment, trial and imprisonment has something to do with NK?

No. I'm suggesting that all propaganda is just the elite pissing down our backs and claiming it's raining.
We do it,.... they do it.

[rowan]

In fact, I was quoting Viktoria Skripal. My own comments on it being foodpoisoning were tongue-in-cheek and that was very clear. I also quoted her claim that Yulia Skripal was "almost recovered," not fully recovered. So please pay a little more attention to detail, folks, because these are important distinctions, and in this respect it is not me but yourselves who resemble the mop-headed baboon of Westminster. & so it should have followed that when I pointed out there were many things you seemed to be unaware of, this was a reference Viktoria Skripal's claims, which appear to have been ignored by mainstream corporate government propaganda.

[morepork]

It is incredible how massive a twat you can be.

[rowan]

Always fun reducing you to a feces-flinging chimp

[Sandydragon]

There are certainly many things you do not know then. You need to stop reading mainstream corporate news, which is really only a mouthpiece for government and its warmongering agenda.

The food poisoning claim looks fucking foolish. That's all he was commenting on. You throw these noncommittal statements out there in order to project some air of authority, and you do the same with an extremely condescending tone.

You are the Boris Johnson of these boards.

I was also saying I hadn't heard a report saying either the Skripals or the police officer were recovered. I've heard updates they're improving, even rapidly improving, but not recovered.

The cousin lives in Russia and is fed a diet of RT. Not surprising that she believes the Putin line.

[rowan]

I'm sure you know more about the case than she does, Sandy.

[Zhivago]

The food poisoning claim looks fucking foolish. That's all he was commenting on. You throw these noncommittal statements out there in order to project some air of authority, and you do the same with an extremely condescending tone.

You are the Boris Johnson of these boards.

I was also saying I hadn't heard a report saying either the Skripals or the police officer were recovered. I've heard updates they're improving, even rapidly improving, but not recovered.

The cousin lives in Russia and is fed a diet of RT. Not surprising that she believes the Putin line.

Shows how much you know about Russia. Nobody watches RT.

The woman is just silly, simple and ignorant, plenty of such people in all countries.

[canta_brian]

I'm sure you know more about the case than she does, Sandy. [emoji38]

By your logic, I know more about the case. I live 40 mins from Salisbury which gives me ultimate authority over anyone who doesn't live in the region.

[rowan]

That's not my logic. What I actually wrote regarding the situation over here is that if you're not able to read the local press and converse with the locals in the native language, you're not likely to have the same degree of insight as the locals and shouldn't presume to lecture them. As it happens, I do read the British press in the English language (albeit mostly out of morbid curiosity) and I do converse with British people every day through my work.

As for Viktoria Skripal, I would imagine she is in regular contact with the hospitalized Skripals, and that you yourself are probably not.

[morepork]

I'm sure you know more about the case than she does, Sandy. [emoji38]

By your logic, I know more about the case. I live 40 mins from Salisbury which gives me ultimate authority over anyone who doesn't live in the region.

Apparently not....


Would you like garlic bread with your nerve agent?

[WaspInWales]

There's me thinking the dose was delivered by an Amazon drone...direct to the door.

[kk67]

There's me thinking the dose was delivered by an Amazon drone...direct to the door.

....and the share price plunges. Nice work on the 'ideas'.....

[Stones of granite]

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/S_s ... 018_e_.pdf

Some excerpts

The team was able to collect blood samples from the three affected individuals under
full chain of custody for delivery to the OPCW Laboratory and subsequent analysis
by OPCW designated laboratories, and conducted identification of the three
individuals against official photo-ID documents.

The team requested and received splits of samples taken by British authorities for
delivery to the OPCW Laboratory in Rijswijk, the Netherlands, and subsequent
analysis by OPCW designated laboratories. This was done for comparative purposes
and to verify the analysis of the United Kingdom.

The results of analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and
biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United
Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and
severely injured three people.

The TAV team notes that the toxic chemical was of high purity. The latter is
concluded from the almost complete absence of impurities.