Good but not quite good enough XV

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Re: Good but not quite good enough XV

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Lizard wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:Just picking up on the chat re. Henry Trinder in the SA Tour thread made me think that there is a ground of players (25 years old or older) who are increasingly unlikely to be picked at test level.

My XV would be:

1. R. Harrison
2. Cruse
3. Cooper-Woolley
4. Slater
5. Green
6. Gibson
7. Welch
8. Wray
9. S. Harrison
10. Mills
11. Bassett
12. Atkinson
13. Trinder
14. Woodburn
15. Hammersley

OK, Mills at 10 is a touch tenuous, but I reckon that XV could definitely take on some test teams.

If you include players with a handful of caps who are unlikely to get any more you could easily add Armand, Kvesic, Freddie Burns, Eastmond and Wade.
The irony of this thread is that the equivalent XV for New Zealand would have included Brad Shields.
That's not ironic. We're very well aware of that - why else would he be leaving New Zealand if that weren't the case? We're not deluded into thinking that he's coming for the beautiful architecture of Coventry.

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Re: Good but not quite good enough XV

Post by Saison »

different subject but given that I think a lot of England's issues these past few years are about lack of a decent openside. In a 'what might have been but for injury XV' I think Tom Rees would be a shoe in. If he'd been fit and played to his potential(and been picked of course) I think england would have had a great deal more success
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Re: Good but not quite good enough XV

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Lizard wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:Just picking up on the chat re. Henry Trinder in the SA Tour thread made me think that there is a ground of players (25 years old or older) who are increasingly unlikely to be picked at test level.

My XV would be:

1. R. Harrison
2. Cruse
3. Cooper-Woolley
4. Slater
5. Green
6. Gibson
7. Welch
8. Wray
9. S. Harrison
10. Mills
11. Bassett
12. Atkinson
13. Trinder
14. Woodburn
15. Hammersley

OK, Mills at 10 is a touch tenuous, but I reckon that XV could definitely take on some test teams.

If you include players with a handful of caps who are unlikely to get any more you could easily add Armand, Kvesic, Freddie Burns, Eastmond and Wade.
The irony of this thread is that the equivalent XV for New Zealand would have included Brad Shields.
Only if you went to the alanis morissette language school
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Re: Good but not quite good enough XV

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Puja wrote:
fivepointer wrote:Ben Moon, Mike Haywood, Nick Schonert, Graham Kitchener, George Merrick, Dave Ewers, Gary Graham and Josh Beaumont wouldnt be a bad pack either.
Was Beaumont never capped?

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Beaumont was in the England team for the six nations (forget the year) but got injured against Worcester which ruled him out for the season.
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Re: Good but not quite good enough XV

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I don’t think he was ever ‘in the team’. He might have made the squad, but I don’t recall any suggestion he’d be a starter.

He looked really promising in 15/16 but has badly regressed in the last two season. He’s either injured or anonymous when he does play.

Moving to lock hasn’t helped either.
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Re: Good but not quite good enough XV

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Yep. Should’ve stayed at 8.
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