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I think the Bulls are technically still in the running, aren't they? Two bonus point wins (v Jags, then away to Lions) would put them on 35 points. This would leave them tied with the Rebels if that team gets no return on the road against the Reds and the Highlanders.
A tie would be broken as follows:
1. Most wins: the above would leave them both with 7 wins.
2. Highest aggregate PD: Bulls are on -44, Rebels on -1. It would not be out the question for the Bulls to win twice by an average of 11 points and the Rebels to lose twice by the same average margin, putting the Bulls 1 point ahead.
3. Most tries scored : Both are on 51
4. Highest aggregate tries scored/conceded difference: Rebels on 1, Bulls on -4.
5. Coin toss.
A tie would be broken as follows:
1. Most wins: the above would leave them both with 7 wins.
2. Highest aggregate PD: Bulls are on -44, Rebels on -1. It would not be out the question for the Bulls to win twice by an average of 11 points and the Rebels to lose twice by the same average margin, putting the Bulls 1 point ahead.
3. Most tries scored : Both are on 51
4. Highest aggregate tries scored/conceded difference: Rebels on 1, Bulls on -4.
5. Coin toss.
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Technically, yes. They'd need: 1/ maximum points from both their remaining games; 2/ the Rebels to receive no points whatsoever in either of theirs; and 3/ for the Sharks to lose both their remaining games; and 4/ to wind up with a superior for and against record to the Rebels. So they probably have a better chance of the Martians arriving and zapping one of the teams out of existence with their laser guns...
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Hence “technically”!
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Watch out for those Martians!!
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Indeed . . .
Capital clash
What has happened to the Hurricanes attack? After tearing up the competition in the early rounds, the Hurricanes have failed to score more than 14 points in their last three games. With a home playoff spot on the line, the Chris Boyd-coached side will need to find their attacking mojo against the Blues in Wellington on Saturday night. Provided captain Brad Shields can overcome an illness, he will be back for his 100th Super Rugby game and should provide the inspiration the Hurricanes need to get their season back on track.
http://www.superrugby.co.nz/News/32641/ ... forward-to
Capital clash
What has happened to the Hurricanes attack? After tearing up the competition in the early rounds, the Hurricanes have failed to score more than 14 points in their last three games. With a home playoff spot on the line, the Chris Boyd-coached side will need to find their attacking mojo against the Blues in Wellington on Saturday night. Provided captain Brad Shields can overcome an illness, he will be back for his 100th Super Rugby game and should provide the inspiration the Hurricanes need to get their season back on track.
http://www.superrugby.co.nz/News/32641/ ... forward-to
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South Island derby just kicked off. As a Canes supporter, have to hope Saders win, because we won't catch them for the top spot, but we do need to stay ahead of Otago (& the Chiefs) to get a home quarter.
& it's the 8-time champions with the early try . . .
HT 25-17 Saders.
32-22 heading into the final 1/4
FT 45-22. Bit of a spanking. Canterbury looking ominous - as usual.
& it's the 8-time champions with the early try . . .
HT 25-17 Saders.
32-22 heading into the final 1/4
FT 45-22. Bit of a spanking. Canterbury looking ominous - as usual.

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Huge and somewhat unexpected blow to the Rebels' playoff prospects. They basically only had to win one of their remaining 2 games to secure a spot for (I believe) the first time, and thereby vindicate the ARU's decision to keep them on ahead of the Force. & obviously the lowly Reds was the one they would have been targetting. But now they're probably going to have to beat the Highlanders in Dunedin to make it, and that seems unlikely. Meanwhile, the hands the Brumbies a lifeline. It's great news for the Sharks, who have a couple of winnable fixtures ahead, and the Brumbies - who have two difficult games but now have destiny back in their own hands. It also takes a lot of pressure off the Jags, who should reach the playoffs for the first time in their history.
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The demise of the Rebels and Brumbies this weekend opens up a huge opportunity for the Sharks to take the last slot in the playoffs, as they have two quite winnable encounters in front of them. & the pressure is right off the Jags, although they'll probably want to overcome the lowly Bulls today to make sure of their berth in the quarters. The Chiefs' failure to pick up a bonus point today may prove crucial. If the Canes can take maximum points against the battling Blues, they could well hold onto their top 4 placing (and a home quarter) even with a loss to the Chiefs next week. But on recent form a Canes' win today is far from a foregone conclusion - even at home.
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Great start for the Canes. Ngani with 2 tries and Julian with 1 for a 19-3 lead approaching HT. Need to keep this up in the 2nd half and grab the bonus point as well. But even as I write that they let in a try just before the break and suddenly the Blues are back in it. 21-10.
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Well done, lads. That should see the Canes with a home playoffs provided they don't get absolutely slaughtered next week.
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Tahs running up a cricket score against the Poodles. 77-25 !! That should secure 3rd place and a home quarter with their nearest rivals both losing this weekend.
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Bulls lead the Jags 21-19 at HT. Jags have 3 tries. Even a loss with a bonus point or two would likely see the South Americans into the playoffs after results earlier this weekend. But a win would confirm it beyond doubt.
36-26 to the Bulls heading into the final 1/4, but the Jags have their 4th try, which is something.
I thought there was a bonus point for 4 tries but apparently there isn't.
Bulls lead Jags 43-29 into the last 10.
43-34 Bulls, and I believe the visitors missed a conversion which would have given them that important bonus point
36-26 to the Bulls heading into the final 1/4, but the Jags have their 4th try, which is something.
I thought there was a bonus point for 4 tries but apparently there isn't.


43-34 Bulls, and I believe the visitors missed a conversion which would have given them that important bonus point

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Another shock, with the Stormers beating the Sharks 27-16, despite the fact they had nothing to play for and the visitors everything. This confirms that the Jaguares are through to the playoffs, regardless the result of their visit to Durban in next week's final round of regular season. The Sharks must now win that encounter and hope the Rebels lose to the Highlanders in Dunedin to claim the final playoffs berth. If the Rebels win that one (or the Sharks lose), they'll hang onto 8th spot. The Brumbies' bonus point for losing to the Chiefs by less than 8 ended the Bulls' chances, but the Canberra outfit retain a very remote chance of a playoffs berth if they win away to the in-form Tahs next week and both the Sharks and Rebels lose. Realistically I think we're going to see the Sharks snatch 8th place with a home win over the Jags, while the Rebels do down to Otago. The Canes appear to have clinched the 4th home quarter-final spot with today's win, barring a massive hammering in the Waikato next week. I believe the Chiefs would have to win by more than 44 points.
Likely quarter finals:
Saders host Sharks
Tahs host Jags
Lions host Otago
Canes host Chiefs
Table with one round remaining (Stormers' have played all their games):
1. Crusaders 15 13 0 2 488:278 58
2. Waratahs 15 9 1 5 526:405 44
3. Lions 15 8 0 7 481:423 41
4. Hurricanes 15 11 0 4 450:315 50
5. Chiefs 15 10 0 5 435:344 45
6. Highlanders 15 9 0 6 394:408 40
7. Jaguares 15 9 0 6 399:398 38
8. Rebels 15 7 0 8 403:418 35
9. Sharks 15 6 1 8 417:432 32
10. Brumbies 15 6 0 9 353:391 30
11. Stormers 16 6 0 10 390:423 29
12. Bulls 15 6 0 9 429:464 29
13. Reds 15 5 0 10 341:474 23
14. Blues 15 4 0 11 361:455 22
15. Sunwolves 15 3 0 12 377:616 14
Likely quarter finals:
Saders host Sharks
Tahs host Jags
Lions host Otago
Canes host Chiefs
Table with one round remaining (Stormers' have played all their games):
1. Crusaders 15 13 0 2 488:278 58
2. Waratahs 15 9 1 5 526:405 44
3. Lions 15 8 0 7 481:423 41
4. Hurricanes 15 11 0 4 450:315 50
5. Chiefs 15 10 0 5 435:344 45
6. Highlanders 15 9 0 6 394:408 40
7. Jaguares 15 9 0 6 399:398 38
8. Rebels 15 7 0 8 403:418 35
9. Sharks 15 6 1 8 417:432 32
10. Brumbies 15 6 0 9 353:391 30
11. Stormers 16 6 0 10 390:423 29
12. Bulls 15 6 0 9 429:464 29
13. Reds 15 5 0 10 341:474 23
14. Blues 15 4 0 11 361:455 22
15. Sunwolves 15 3 0 12 377:616 14
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My number 1 team has pretty much sewn up a home quarter and my number 2 has reached the playoffs for the first time. Gotta be happy with that



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Definitely worthy of another post on the same subject. Definitely.
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Saders host Sharks
Tahs host Jags
Lions host Otago
Canes host Chiefs
Saders and Tahs should win comfortably on current form, Landers at Jo'burg could go either way, and the same is obviously true of the Chiefs in Wellington. This coming weekend's regular season fixture between the latter two teams will obviously give us more insight.
Tahs host Jags
Lions host Otago
Canes host Chiefs
Saders and Tahs should win comfortably on current form, Landers at Jo'burg could go either way, and the same is obviously true of the Chiefs in Wellington. This coming weekend's regular season fixture between the latter two teams will obviously give us more insight.
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The international rugby news web-sites I've looked at have again been slow on the uptake here. Most glaringly, the Jaguares' achievement in reaching the playoffs for the first time appears to have slipped under the radar completely. I have the Jaguares' official site linked to my Facebook page and they have been raving about this - and rightly so. Neither have the quarterfinal permutations received a thorough analysis; something you would expect after the penultimate round of regular season. That's poor journalism. But not surprising, given they failed to factor in games in hand during much of the season, thus presenting distorted views of the overall standings.
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"Here" as in Turkey, you mean?
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Always looks better in color



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Turkey's analysis of super rugby is 2nd to none. Pull out supplements in most papers each weekend. The excellent write ups in the pomak papers should not be missed. Excellent piece on why South Africa should host all future world cups.morepork wrote:"Here" as in Turkey, you mean?
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Perish the thought an African nation should host it, eh, Canta, even when World Rugby's own analytical report recommended them.
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So the big story from Super Rugby today is that the Bulls are sweating on an injured player. Those would be the Bulls who are out of contention for a playoffs spot. So in fact it really isn't a big story at all. The teams which should be of the most interest now are the Rebels, Sharks and Brumbies as they all go into the final round of regular season with a chance of clinching the final playoffs spot.
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rowan wrote:Perish the thought an African nation should host it, eh, Canta, even when World Rugby's own analytical report recommended them.
Are you really this thick?
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Evidently there is still a long way to go to get racism out of this sport
Ashwin Willemse insists his SuperSport studio walk-off was based on the belief that the incident involving Nick Mallett and Naas Botha was rooted in racism.
Willemse walked off the SuperSport set during a live discussion following the Lions’ Super Rugby win over the Brumbies, alleging that Mallett and Botha had ‘undermined’ and ‘patronised’ him.
A subsequent independent investigation found that there was no underlying racism, although Willemse opted against presenting his testimony during this inquiry. His lawyer suggested that they would take the matter to the Equality Court.
Willemse has not spoken publicly since downing his mic, but on Tuesday the former Springbok wing opened up to 702’s Eusebius McKaiser in a wide-ranging radio interview. He reflected on his life story before explaining why he had opted to walk off the SuperSport studio and maintain his silence until now.
‘Firstly, I attended the hearings and we clarified that we weren’t comfortable with the terms of reference and being able to deal with everything we wanted to. It was voluntary, so we communicated that we didn’t feel it was the appropriate forum. I had nothing to say up to this point, but I understand the magnitude of what happened through the messages I’ve received, the articles and media response.
http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/willemse-i- ... nick-naas/

Ashwin Willemse insists his SuperSport studio walk-off was based on the belief that the incident involving Nick Mallett and Naas Botha was rooted in racism.
Willemse walked off the SuperSport set during a live discussion following the Lions’ Super Rugby win over the Brumbies, alleging that Mallett and Botha had ‘undermined’ and ‘patronised’ him.
A subsequent independent investigation found that there was no underlying racism, although Willemse opted against presenting his testimony during this inquiry. His lawyer suggested that they would take the matter to the Equality Court.
Willemse has not spoken publicly since downing his mic, but on Tuesday the former Springbok wing opened up to 702’s Eusebius McKaiser in a wide-ranging radio interview. He reflected on his life story before explaining why he had opted to walk off the SuperSport studio and maintain his silence until now.
‘Firstly, I attended the hearings and we clarified that we weren’t comfortable with the terms of reference and being able to deal with everything we wanted to. It was voluntary, so we communicated that we didn’t feel it was the appropriate forum. I had nothing to say up to this point, but I understand the magnitude of what happened through the messages I’ve received, the articles and media response.
http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/willemse-i- ... nick-naas/
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