Saudi

[Zhivago]

What lovely allies we have. No one cares to talk about this guy presumed murdered in their Turkish consulate?

Why does such repression not elicit calls for intervention...

[SerjeantWildgoose]

I think we should intervene. Anyone got any idea who I should call?

[Zhivago]

I think we should intervene. Anyone got any idea who I should call?

How about let's just not sell them weapons

[SerjeantWildgoose]

I'm Irish. I've sold them feck all.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

Maybe if we stopped selling them Guinness?

Oh, hang on ...?

[SerjeantWildgoose]

Truth is, Big Fellah, they're fecking repulsive. They like to think that the rest of the world thinks they're civilised because they've got air conditioning but we all know they're medieval cunts. But they happen to be medieval cunts with the ability to put the price of everything through the roof by twiddling with the oil taps and if we didn't sell them the wherewithal to blast Yemen back into the stone age (Not sure it was ever that far out of it, to be honest) then Russia would and could you imagine if that bunch of cunts was able to control the global supply of oil as well as gas? It is a truly miserable world.

[Sandydragon]

Truth is, Big Fellah, they're fecking repulsive. They like to think that the rest of the world thinks they're civilised because they've got air conditioning but we all know they're medieval cunts. But they happen to be medieval cunts with the ability to put the price of everything through the roof by twiddling with the oil taps and if we didn't sell them the wherewithal to blast Yemen back into the stone age (Not sure it was ever that far out of it, to be honest) then Russia would and could you imagine if that bunch of cunts was able to control the global supply of oil as well as gas? It is a truly miserable world.

Yup. The day we don’t need oil any more will be a good one.

I’m all for backing a sanction against Saudi Arabia if this allegation turns out to be true. I don’t trust the Turkish government either so I’d wait out on any reaction, like our government seems to be doing, until we know a lot more.

[BBD]

I read this interesting article on the train the other day, as a bit of a sceptic I found its argument fairly persuasive about the rise of automated and electric cars. My first response was purely personal about how convenient it is to have a car (or even 2) outside the front door. My second thought was about how this 'revolution' would play out in the Middle East

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45786690

Note - if this should be in a different thread of its own that fine, but I do wonder given the grip the Saudis have currently whether this 'advance' in technology might be instrumental in loosening their hold on the short and curls of the world

[Mellsblue]

It’ll be generation and location dependent I think. I don’t like the idea of not having my own car and, living where I do, I doubt there would be a car hub that could’ve have a car at my door as and when I need it.
If was living in a city and didn’t have children - ahh, what a glorious utopia that once was - then I’d be all for it......until some absolute skip of a car that had transported some drunk students home the night before turned up to take me to work.

As for a shift in power, then, yep, it’ll move leverage away from the Middle East but, unless we get our act together in Europe, it may give greater leverage to Russia. Swings and roundabouts.

It will also affect where the power lies with car makers as it’s not the current big players who have the lead in self-drive tech, as things stand. There is a lot of backlash over tax dodging, info hoarding silicon tech companies atm. If they control the self-drive market they will become even more dominant and powerful.

[canta_brian]

I also read that. I immediately did a search on how we would generate the required electricity for this fleet.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ectricity-

Thing is, the article is talking about cars that don’t require drivers, so don’t need 8 hours sleep. Some major advances in charging tech will be needed. Although there was a bio battery article around a couple of years ago...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/0 ... 0_seconds/

This could shaft the Saudis and Elon Musk in one fell swoop.

[Mellsblue]

This could shaft Elon Musk in one fell swoop.

If that was my aim then, at present, I’d just sit back and watch him self-destruct.

[Sandydragon]

I read this interesting article on the train the other day, as a bit of a sceptic I found its argument fairly persuasive about the rise of automated and electric cars. My first response was purely personal about how convenient it is to have a car (or even 2) outside the front door. My second thought was about how this 'revolution' would play out in the Middle East

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45786690

Note - if this should be in a different thread of its own that fine, but I do wonder given the grip the Saudis have currently whether this 'advance' in technology might be instrumental in loosening their hold on the short and curls of the world

Lots of practical problems to overcome if electric cars are to be the norm. What if you live in a terraced house with no dedicated parking? There would need to be charging points everywhere. Then of course the electricity needs to be generated.

If perfected, hydrogen is perhaps more practical.

[BBD]

I read this interesting article on the train the other day, as a bit of a sceptic I found its argument fairly persuasive about the rise of automated and electric cars. My first response was purely personal about how convenient it is to have a car (or even 2) outside the front door. My second thought was about how this 'revolution' would play out in the Middle East

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45786690

Note - if this should be in a different thread of its own that fine, but I do wonder given the grip the Saudis have currently whether this 'advance' in technology might be instrumental in loosening their hold on the short and curls of the world

Lots of practical problems to overcome if electric cars are to be the norm. What if you live in a terraced house with no dedicated parking? There would need to be charging points everywhere. Then of course the electricity needs to be generated.

If perfected, hydrogen is perhaps more practical.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

If only they could perfect a motor vehicle that ran on farts. Give me a steady supply of Stilton and Broccoli soup and a few pints of porter and I'd be able to keep the average family car going for a year.

[Stom]

Well here's your fuel. Carbon free.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 ... l-science/

[morepork]

If only they could perfect a motor vehicle that ran on farts. Give me a steady supply of Stilton and Broccoli soup and a few pints of porter and I'd be able to keep the average family car going for a year.

You'd totally follow through and shit yourself on hill starts.

[Galfon]

Well here's your fuel. Carbon free.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 ... l-science/

the fuel's got carbon in it...it's how trees make oil for us
(with a few million years of squashy-squashy ).
It's about time we caught up - masters of the world my @rse.

[morepork]

No no no. We're onto poo jokes now. Come on.

[Galfon]

It's early days, there are skid-marks everywhere..

[Digby]

They're getting ready to announce they killed him, but also to claim it was an accident. Odd in a country with such control over independent actions that a kill team,or a team armed as a kill team, so fucked up an abduction and interrogation that they accidentally killed someone but I'm sure they're telling the truth

[canta_brian]

They're getting ready to announce they killed him, but also to claim it was an accident. Odd in a country with such control over independent actions that a kill team,or a team armed as a kill team, so fucked up an abduction and interrogation that they accidentally killed someone but I'm sure they're telling the truth

2 of the men who flew into Turkey between his 2 visits to the Saudi embassy were apparently experts in post mortem medicine and came equipped with a bone saw. Accidentally of course.

[Digby]

They're getting ready to announce they killed him, but also to claim it was an accident. Odd in a country with such control over independent actions that a kill team,or a team armed as a kill team, so fucked up an abduction and interrogation that they accidentally killed someone but I'm sure they're telling the truth

2 of the men who flew into Turkey between his 2 visits to the Saudi embassy were apparently experts in post mortem medicine and came equipped with a bone saw. Accidentally of course.

I can't recall an appraisal where I haven't taken a bone saw, but perhaps that speaks to the number of times I've been made redundant

[canta_brian]

They're getting ready to announce they killed him, but also to claim it was an accident. Odd in a country with such control over independent actions that a kill team,or a team armed as a kill team, so fucked up an abduction and interrogation that they accidentally killed someone but I'm sure they're telling the truth

2 of the men who flew into Turkey between his 2 visits to the Saudi embassy were apparently experts in post mortem medicine and came equipped with a bone saw. Accidentally of course.

I can't recall an appraisal where I haven't taken a bone saw, but perhaps that speaks to the number of times I've been made redundant

I’m not sure the Saudis do redundancy

[paddy no 11]

Unfortunately I've seen images posted elsewhere on an irresponsible website, do not view the images

[Mikey Brown]

Unfortunately I've seen images posted elsewhere on an irresponsible website, do not view the images

I definitely don't want to see, but I think I want to ask you to elaborate? I'm not even sure of that either though.