I was working while the debate was going on, so didn't watch, not that it would have changed my opinion...Mellsblue wrote:It’s true you can make statistics say anything you want:Puja wrote:A few interesting points coming out of that data*:Mellsblue wrote:Per a couple of points above. YouGov polls:
‘Leaving aside your one party preference, who do you think performed best overall in tonight’s debate’: Boris 51% v 49% JC
26% thought that both Boris and JC did well....
More stats here:
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/c ... 1119_w.pdf
Corbyn was the significant winner amongst people who had not yet decided on who they were going to vote for. He also got 67% of people thinking he did well, compared with 59% for Johnson. 44% of 2017 Conservative voters thought he did well, as opposed to 33% of of 2017 Labour voters for Johnson.
Given the pre-existing anti-Corbyn personal animus, you'd have to say that a debate where he came level with Johnson as an individual was a pretty solid result. I'd've been interested if the poll had been taken both before and after, to see whether any minds had been changed or if people had just heard what they wanted to hear and blanked out anything else (the stats on who won for the various age groups suggest the latter!).
Puja
*with the obvious caveat that stats can be made to say anything you want and, with my prexisting opinion that Johnson is a bloviating fucktrombone, I'm a touch biased in which ones I pull out.
a) Conservative voters not part of a cult and therefore more reasonable and level headed with regards opposition politicians.
b) Johnson wins, making it a literal victory, a moral victory, a red, white and blue victory and a Churchillian victory.
c) Corbyn suffers from pre-existing personal animus but bloviating fucktrombone Johnson does not.
d) Corbyn repeats trick from 2017 of being victorious/level despite stats showing that he lost.
e) Corbynites on Twitter saying YouGov is a bias tool of the Conservative party until realising they had Corbyn winning amongst swing voters. Upon which, there was a volte fact to saying YouGov’s results are beyond question.
But I just consistently feel like Labour screw up their advantages. Corbyn did not have enough preparation and his answers that I saw did not have enough bite.