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He writted another letter.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st ... entatives/

Seems quite proud of it. The mind a great debater, unmatched wisdom in print form, with exclamation marks for emphasis.


Please, please take the stand and face a cross examination personally, you demented tangerine gumby.
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I like how he opens by saying he couldn't write a better letter. Does he at some part start referring to the letter as perfect?
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So far, he is writing on twatter that he got high marks for his letter.

Who is “they” that give him high marks?

If you ask me, I am thinking “enablers” as a possible name; however we could call them “patriots” too.
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It's essentially poorly written anecdote and hyperbole, but the essence of his angst, which he has continually broadcast throughout his entire term thus far is:

Speaker Pelosi, you admitted just last week at a public forum that your party’s impeachment effort has been going on for “two and a half years,” long before you ever heard about a phone call with Ukraine. Nineteen minutes after I took the oath of office, the Washington Post published a story headlined, “The Campaign to Impeach President Trump Has Begun.” Less than three months after my inauguration, Representative Maxine Waters stated, “I’m going to fight every day until he’s impeached.” House Democrats introduced the first impeachment resolution against me within months of my inauguration, for what will be regarded as one of our country’s best decisions, the firing of James Comey (see Inspector General Reports)—who the world now knows is one of the dirtiest cops our Nation has ever seen. A ranting and raving Congresswoman, Rashida Tlaib, declared just hours after she was sworn into office, “We’re gonna go in there and we’re gonna impeach the motherf****r.” Representative Al Green said in May, “I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected.” Again, you and your allies said, and did, all of these things long before you ever heard of President Zelensky or anything related to Ukraine. As you know very well, this impeachment drive has nothing to do with Ukraine, or the totally appropriate conversation I had with its new president. It only has to do with your attempt to undo the election of 2016 and steal the election of 2020!

All very familiar and very tired themes. The perpetual victim set upon by conspiracy after conspiracy. He and Rudy seem to be of a mind that the louder the cries of conspiracy, the more chance the actual crimes of obstruction and extortion committed via the apparatus of government for personal gain. This is the sum total of his efforts for the last three years. Watch telly, whine on social media, then make up conspiracies to cover his naive fuckwittery in government. Last week a new NAFTA was set in motion, SPACE FORCE got initial funding (in exchange for extra paid parental leave for federal workers), and a number of other things were actually enacted by due process, but he was basically absent on the ground for any of them. The only way that he can get involved it seems is to send in his Kushner sex doll drone. He has no one else in his inner circle he can trust (on account of him being a crooked bastard). The Kush is now spearheading trade negotiations with the Chinese. He is done with opioids and "Middle East peace" (what a dry fuck on a sandy beach that was). Here's today's effort at doing government:

"Good marks and reviews on the letter I sent to Pelosi today. She is the worst! No wonder with people like her and Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, D.C. has been such a mess for so long - and that includes the previous administration who (and now we know for sure) SPIED on my campaign."
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morepork wrote:It's essentially poorly written anecdote and hyperbole, but the essence of his angst, which he has continually broadcast throughout his entire term thus far is:

Speaker Pelosi, you admitted just last week at a public forum that your party’s impeachment effort has been going on for “two and a half years,” long before you ever heard about a phone call with Ukraine. Nineteen minutes after I took the oath of office, the Washington Post published a story headlined, “The Campaign to Impeach President Trump Has Begun.” Less than three months after my inauguration, Representative Maxine Waters stated, “I’m going to fight every day until he’s impeached.” House Democrats introduced the first impeachment resolution against me within months of my inauguration, for what will be regarded as one of our country’s best decisions, the firing of James Comey (see Inspector General Reports)—who the world now knows is one of the dirtiest cops our Nation has ever seen. A ranting and raving Congresswoman, Rashida Tlaib, declared just hours after she was sworn into office, “We’re gonna go in there and we’re gonna impeach the motherf****r.” Representative Al Green said in May, “I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected.” Again, you and your allies said, and did, all of these things long before you ever heard of President Zelensky or anything related to Ukraine. As you know very well, this impeachment drive has nothing to do with Ukraine, or the totally appropriate conversation I had with its new president. It only has to do with your attempt to undo the election of 2016 and steal the election of 2020!

All very familiar and very tired themes. The perpetual victim set upon by conspiracy after conspiracy. He and Rudy seem to be of a mind that the louder the cries of conspiracy, the more chance the actual crimes of obstruction and extortion committed via the apparatus of government for personal gain. This is the sum total of his efforts for the last three years. Watch telly, whine on social media, then make up conspiracies to cover his naive fuckwittery in government. Last week a new NAFTA was set in motion, SPACE FORCE got initial funding (in exchange for extra paid parental leave for federal workers), and a number of other things were actually enacted by due process, but he was basically absent on the ground for any of them. The only way that he can get involved it seems is to send in his Kushner sex doll drone. He has no one else in his inner circle he can trust (on account of him being a crooked bastard). The Kush is now spearheading trade negotiations with the Chinese. He is done with opioids and "Middle East peace" (what a dry fuck on a sandy beach that was). Here's today's effort at doing government:

"Good marks and reviews on the letter I sent to Pelosi today. She is the worst! No wonder with people like her and Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, D.C. has been such a mess for so long - and that includes the previous administration who (and now we know for sure) SPIED on my campaign."
Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
Take advantage of others to get what they want
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Be envious of others and believe others envy them
Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office

At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation
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Is there a medication i can take?
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Son of Mathonwy wrote:
morepork wrote:It's essentially poorly written anecdote and hyperbole, but the essence of his angst, which he has continually broadcast throughout his entire term thus far is:

Speaker Pelosi, you admitted just last week at a public forum that your party’s impeachment effort has been going on for “two and a half years,” long before you ever heard about a phone call with Ukraine. Nineteen minutes after I took the oath of office, the Washington Post published a story headlined, “The Campaign to Impeach President Trump Has Begun.” Less than three months after my inauguration, Representative Maxine Waters stated, “I’m going to fight every day until he’s impeached.” House Democrats introduced the first impeachment resolution against me within months of my inauguration, for what will be regarded as one of our country’s best decisions, the firing of James Comey (see Inspector General Reports)—who the world now knows is one of the dirtiest cops our Nation has ever seen. A ranting and raving Congresswoman, Rashida Tlaib, declared just hours after she was sworn into office, “We’re gonna go in there and we’re gonna impeach the motherf****r.” Representative Al Green said in May, “I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected.” Again, you and your allies said, and did, all of these things long before you ever heard of President Zelensky or anything related to Ukraine. As you know very well, this impeachment drive has nothing to do with Ukraine, or the totally appropriate conversation I had with its new president. It only has to do with your attempt to undo the election of 2016 and steal the election of 2020!

All very familiar and very tired themes. The perpetual victim set upon by conspiracy after conspiracy. He and Rudy seem to be of a mind that the louder the cries of conspiracy, the more chance the actual crimes of obstruction and extortion committed via the apparatus of government for personal gain. This is the sum total of his efforts for the last three years. Watch telly, whine on social media, then make up conspiracies to cover his naive fuckwittery in government. Last week a new NAFTA was set in motion, SPACE FORCE got initial funding (in exchange for extra paid parental leave for federal workers), and a number of other things were actually enacted by due process, but he was basically absent on the ground for any of them. The only way that he can get involved it seems is to send in his Kushner sex doll drone. He has no one else in his inner circle he can trust (on account of him being a crooked bastard). The Kush is now spearheading trade negotiations with the Chinese. He is done with opioids and "Middle East peace" (what a dry fuck on a sandy beach that was). Here's today's effort at doing government:

"Good marks and reviews on the letter I sent to Pelosi today. She is the worst! No wonder with people like her and Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, D.C. has been such a mess for so long - and that includes the previous administration who (and now we know for sure) SPIED on my campaign."
Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
Take advantage of others to get what they want
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Be envious of others and believe others envy them
Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office

At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation
And how much would that be magnified if someone had been spoilt his entire life?
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morepork wrote:It's essentially poorly written anecdote and hyperbole, but the essence of his angst, which he has continually broadcast throughout his entire term thus far is:

Speaker Pelosi, you admitted just last week at a public forum that your party’s impeachment effort has been going on for “two and a half years,” long before you ever heard about a phone call with Ukraine. Nineteen minutes after I took the oath of office, the Washington Post published a story headlined, “The Campaign to Impeach President Trump Has Begun.” Less than three months after my inauguration, Representative Maxine Waters stated, “I’m going to fight every day until he’s impeached.” House Democrats introduced the first impeachment resolution against me within months of my inauguration, for what will be regarded as one of our country’s best decisions, the firing of James Comey (see Inspector General Reports)—who the world now knows is one of the dirtiest cops our Nation has ever seen. A ranting and raving Congresswoman, Rashida Tlaib, declared just hours after she was sworn into office, “We’re gonna go in there and we’re gonna impeach the motherf****r.” Representative Al Green said in May, “I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected.” Again, you and your allies said, and did, all of these things long before you ever heard of President Zelensky or anything related to Ukraine. As you know very well, this impeachment drive has nothing to do with Ukraine, or the totally appropriate conversation I had with its new president. It only has to do with your attempt to undo the election of 2016 and steal the election of 2020!

All very familiar and very tired themes. The perpetual victim set upon by conspiracy after conspiracy. He and Rudy seem to be of a mind that the louder the cries of conspiracy, the more chance the actual crimes of obstruction and extortion committed via the apparatus of government for personal gain. This is the sum total of his efforts for the last three years. Watch telly, whine on social media, then make up conspiracies to cover his naive fuckwittery in government. Last week a new NAFTA was set in motion, SPACE FORCE got initial funding (in exchange for extra paid parental leave for federal workers), and a number of other things were actually enacted by due process, but he was basically absent on the ground for any of them. The only way that he can get involved it seems is to send in his Kushner sex doll drone. He has no one else in his inner circle he can trust (on account of him being a crooked bastard). The Kush is now spearheading trade negotiations with the Chinese. He is done with opioids and "Middle East peace" (what a dry fuck on a sandy beach that was). Here's today's effort at doing government:

"Good marks and reviews on the letter I sent to Pelosi today. She is the worst! No wonder with people like her and Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, D.C. has been such a mess for so long - and that includes the previous administration who (and now we know for sure) SPIED on my campaign."
He’s just setting the narrative for the election. The chances of getting impeached are practically zero so the victimhood agenda is all for his core vote.

For the live of sanity, let’s hope that the Democrats can field a candidate this year with some genuine appeal and some policies.
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Sandydragon wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
morepork wrote:It's essentially poorly written anecdote and hyperbole, but the essence of his angst, which he has continually broadcast throughout his entire term thus far is:

Speaker Pelosi, you admitted just last week at a public forum that your party’s impeachment effort has been going on for “two and a half years,” long before you ever heard about a phone call with Ukraine. Nineteen minutes after I took the oath of office, the Washington Post published a story headlined, “The Campaign to Impeach President Trump Has Begun.” Less than three months after my inauguration, Representative Maxine Waters stated, “I’m going to fight every day until he’s impeached.” House Democrats introduced the first impeachment resolution against me within months of my inauguration, for what will be regarded as one of our country’s best decisions, the firing of James Comey (see Inspector General Reports)—who the world now knows is one of the dirtiest cops our Nation has ever seen. A ranting and raving Congresswoman, Rashida Tlaib, declared just hours after she was sworn into office, “We’re gonna go in there and we’re gonna impeach the motherf****r.” Representative Al Green said in May, “I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected.” Again, you and your allies said, and did, all of these things long before you ever heard of President Zelensky or anything related to Ukraine. As you know very well, this impeachment drive has nothing to do with Ukraine, or the totally appropriate conversation I had with its new president. It only has to do with your attempt to undo the election of 2016 and steal the election of 2020!

All very familiar and very tired themes. The perpetual victim set upon by conspiracy after conspiracy. He and Rudy seem to be of a mind that the louder the cries of conspiracy, the more chance the actual crimes of obstruction and extortion committed via the apparatus of government for personal gain. This is the sum total of his efforts for the last three years. Watch telly, whine on social media, then make up conspiracies to cover his naive fuckwittery in government. Last week a new NAFTA was set in motion, SPACE FORCE got initial funding (in exchange for extra paid parental leave for federal workers), and a number of other things were actually enacted by due process, but he was basically absent on the ground for any of them. The only way that he can get involved it seems is to send in his Kushner sex doll drone. He has no one else in his inner circle he can trust (on account of him being a crooked bastard). The Kush is now spearheading trade negotiations with the Chinese. He is done with opioids and "Middle East peace" (what a dry fuck on a sandy beach that was). Here's today's effort at doing government:

"Good marks and reviews on the letter I sent to Pelosi today. She is the worst! No wonder with people like her and Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, D.C. has been such a mess for so long - and that includes the previous administration who (and now we know for sure) SPIED on my campaign."
Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
Take advantage of others to get what they want
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Be envious of others and believe others envy them
Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office

At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation
And how much would that be magnified if someone had been spoilt his entire life?
There is a scientific experiment going on right now here in the US on this exact subject.

You can check its progress and results by yourself just by reading the news.
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A couple of technicalities:
Trump is now impeached;
The Senate will decide if he will be removed from office.

The chances of the latter are currently slim to none. Things may change since the republican majority is 53-47, with Romney, Murkowski and Collins being probable swing votes when it comes to decide to call witnesses or not. But as it stands now, they are not breaking party lines.
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morepork wrote:
Is it me or is Melania's signature eerily similar to the Don's? [emoji848]

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Sandydragon wrote:He’s just setting the narrative for the election. The chances of getting impeached are practically zero so the victimhood agenda is all for his core vote.

For the live of sanity, let’s hope that the Democrats can field a candidate this year with some genuine appeal and some policies.
Tbh, I don't think it would make a difference if Jesus Christ was running for the Dems. Look at what has just happened here. We have overwhelmingly elected a known racist, misogynist, proven liar who can barely string coherent sentences together with a manifesto along the lines of make Britain great again! With no subtle hiding of racist rhetoric.

I can see Trump getting reelected. It's only long term when jobs, environment and the economy start to backfire that people will see that it had nothing to do with a wall or Muslims. By then Trump will be long gone.

Same for us. The NHS is going to continue to be sold off. Austerity will continue, many will be forced into poverty and/or homelessness whilst the divide continues to grow. Then when many new Tory voters realise things aren't that much better, they'll probably demand another referendum [emoji16]

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gransoporro wrote:A couple of technicalities:
Trump is now impeached;
The Senate will decide if he will be removed from office.

The chances of the latter are currently slim to none. Things may change since the republican majority is 53-47, with Romney, Murkowski and Collins being probable swing votes when it comes to decide to call witnesses or not. But as it stands now, they are not breaking party lines.
Even if those 3 vote against Trump, it's still nowhere near a 2/3 majority. It will take an extremely unlikely epiphany of a biblical nature for enough republicans to develop a conscience. It just isn't going to happen.

The only hope is there is some pee pee tapes out there but even then, I'm sure many would still back Trump.

The only crumb of comfort is that some 'safe' GOP senators could lose their seat down the line, but that is unlikely to occur before Trump leaves.

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WaspInWales wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:He’s just setting the narrative for the election. The chances of getting impeached are practically zero so the victimhood agenda is all for his core vote.

For the live of sanity, let’s hope that the Democrats can field a candidate this year with some genuine appeal and some policies.
Tbh, I don't think it would make a difference if Jesus Christ was running for the Dems. Look at what has just happened here. We have overwhelmingly elected a known racist, misogynist, proven liar who can barely string coherent sentences together with a manifesto along the lines of make Britain great again! With no subtle hiding of racist rhetoric.

I can see Trump getting reelected. It's only long term when jobs, environment and the economy start to backfire that people will see that it had nothing to do with a wall or Muslims. By then Trump will be long gone.

Same for us. The NHS is going to continue to be sold off. Austerity will continue, many will be forced into poverty and/or homelessness whilst the divide continues to grow. Then when many new Tory voters realise things aren't that much better, they'll probably demand another referendum [emoji16]
Any problems caused by Brexit will be blamed on the EU. Ditto problems caused by the US trade deal. The NHS will strain under significantly increased drug costs and the current model will be considered "not fit for purpose". A 21st Century model for the NHS will be unveiled and privatisation will accelerate. A two-tier system will begin to emerge with the best treatments only available via subscription.
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WaspInWales wrote:
morepork wrote:
Is it me or is Melania's signature eerily similar to the Don's? [emoji848]

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Word is that Donald is extremely prod of his big boy letter.
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WaspInWales wrote:
gransoporro wrote:A couple of technicalities:
Trump is now impeached;
The Senate will decide if he will be removed from office.

The chances of the latter are currently slim to none. Things may change since the republican majority is 53-47, with Romney, Murkowski and Collins being probable swing votes when it comes to decide to call witnesses or not. But as it stands now, they are not breaking party lines.
Even if those 3 vote against Trump, it's still nowhere near a 2/3 majority. It will take an extremely unlikely epiphany of a biblical nature for enough republicans to develop a conscience. It just isn't going to happen.

The only hope is there is some pee pee tapes out there but even then, I'm sure many would still back Trump.

The only crumb of comfort is that some 'safe' GOP senators could lose their seat down the line, but that is unlikely to occur before Trump leaves.

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If they can call witnesses, we should hear from Perry, Pompeo, Mulvaney. And that may (MAY) break the dam.
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morepork wrote:Word is that Donald is extremely prod of his big boy letter.
With his attention span, there's no way he wrote that.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote:
morepork wrote:Word is that Donald is extremely prod of his big boy letter.
With his attention span, there's no way he wrote that.

Adolf Eichmann, sorry, Stephen Miller probably cleaned it up while Jared stood nearby staring out of a window wearing a shirt and jacket but in his underpants.
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Just so we're clear, you know this impeachment trial will probably not result in Trump's removal from office, right? The Republicans have outright said they'll do their best to interfere with the process.

I think the Dems are well aware anyway, but yeah, let's not get too excited.

Also, lol Graham, you hypocritical shitcunt.

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gransoporro wrote:If they can call witnesses, we should hear from Perry, Pompeo, Mulvaney. And that may (MAY) break the dam.
I'm sure they can call witnesses, but can they be blocked from appearing? Either by a senate vote or the WH?


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Nothing can go further if Pelosi etc keeps stalling sending the impeachment "paperwork" to the senate. She is not supposed to be holding on to it so we will see how it finally pans out. I hope it goes to trial, but would like to see Durhams report as well. Crazy shit slinging to come Id imagine.
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cashead wrote:Just so we're clear, you know this impeachment trial will probably not result in Trump's removal from office, right? The Republicans have outright said they'll do their best to interfere with the process.

I think the Dems are well aware anyway, but yeah, let's not get too excited.

Also, lol Graham, you hypocritical shitcunt.

Almost certainly not, but inaction would a depresssing statement of the failure of oft referenced checks and balances. It’s a shit show but one that must be documented.
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Coco wrote:Nothing can go further if Pelosi etc keeps stalling sending the impeachment "paperwork" to the senate. She is not supposed to be holding on to it so we will see how it finally pans out. I hope it goes to trial, but would like to see Durhams report as well. Crazy shit slinging to come Id imagine.
Why is the orange man so reluctant to stand his ground in a public forum?
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Post by gransoporro »

Coco wrote:Nothing can go further if Pelosi etc keeps stalling sending the impeachment "paperwork" to the senate. She is not supposed to be holding on to it so we will see how it finally pans out. I hope it goes to trial, but would like to see Durhams report as well. Crazy shit slinging to come Id imagine.
According to Barr it will have to wait a few more months.

Since my expectations of Barr went so low after his appointment, I can speculate 2 possibilities:
- Durham needs more time to find something that can be used for spin because there is nothing much there
- Durham found something, but they are waiting for a time when the presidential campaign is in full swing for maximum effect
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