What's in a name?

[Bob]

Cardiff, The Blues, Cardiff Blues, personally I don't care when someone says any of those three in the context of Welsh rugby I know who they are taking about.

There's the argument over strong branding and to focus on the Cardiff not Blues and all that and I see the merit in that. Would dropping Blues bring in more fans or sponsors? I'm not sure but I am fairly sure it won't lose them any sponsors and I would be amazed if they lost ST holders over it.

Anyway I call them Cardiff 90% of the time anyway.

[Gog]

I think there are a few different factors to consider.
There are fans who supported Cardiff Pre "regionalisation". I guess many of those who would be resentful of a name change. Fans who live in Cardiff would also probably prefer the old name. Newer fans of the game, especially those that live out of town probably don't really care.
I believe if it was marketed properly, by concentrating on the name Blues it could bring in newer fans who did not have any old links to the city. Especially the younger people. Some people have suggested that the Cardiff name had a great history and should be used more. Personally I find that many younger people have no idea or memory of years gone by.

As a Gog, I never had much affinity to the teams down south, but when the regions were formed and Scarlets were given the remit to represent the North, I bought in to the idea as did others. A lot of kids who had never supported rugby could be seen wearing Scarlets tops. Unfortunately the Scarlets seemed a bit half hearted and the 2 matches a season were not marketed well and eventually the Scarlets stopped travelling.

Anything must be tried to encourage the future supporters of Rugby in Wales.

[Tre]

I don't think that distancing themselves from the Cardiff name would bring in any more supporters than it would drive away.

The biggest thing they can do to get people through the turnstiles is not be total sh*t

[glamorganmorgan]

Here comes my tired old response from years ago.

Well I think they should be a bit more regional in the name rather than city centric , (Glamorgan). And
they should rotate their games to also reflect their regionality. so they could reflect their non centric
id by moving about. They could therefore become Glamorgan Wanderers

[Mikeyv]

I don't think that distancing themselves from the Cardiff name would bring in any more supporters than it would drive away.

The biggest thing they can do to get people through the turnstiles is not be total sh*t

Aye, and that goes for all four.

[Sandydragon]

I don't think that distancing themselves from the Cardiff name would bring in any more supporters than it would drive away.

The biggest thing they can do to get people through the turnstiles is not be total sh*t

Not being total shyte is the best marketing tactic of all!

[Tre]

Here comes my tired old response from years ago.

Well I think they should be a bit more regional in the name rather than city centric , (Glamorgan). And
they should rotate their games to also reflect their regionality. so they could reflect their non centric
id by moving about. They could therefore become Glamorgan Wanderers

I honestly don't think that would make a blind bit of difference. These old counties don't even exist any more!

Edit. Just got it!

[UKHamlet]

Who do the footie supporters up and down the valleys support? Mostly Cardiff City. That's because they don't have local teams that play at the same level. Same goes for rugby now. In a few years, the mutants who sing, "I will never be a Blue" will be dead and their kids will want to be part of the success story. There has to be a success story though, as Cardiff City have found out to their cost recently.

[Billyfish]

Yah, good tictac. Wait till they're dead and take away their rugby teams.

[UKHamlet]

Life goes on. Some people don't want face reality.

[Tre]

Yah, good tictac. Wait till they're dead and take away their rugby teams.

How have their rugby teams been taken away? They're still there, just playing at a level which is financially suitable for those clubs.

[Billyfish]

Phew. Thanks for reminding me of the limits of my ambition. I'm sure I shall be more content knowing my place.

[Tre]

Phew. Thanks for reminding me of the limits of my ambition. I'm sure I shall be more content knowing my place.

Not your ambition. Pontypridd RFC. The club who went bust twice trying to have a professional rugby team.

Nobody "took" any team away.

[Billyfish]

Yeah yeah, I'm quite sure it doesn't matter. And after I'm dead it will matter even less.

[Bob]

Phew. Thanks for reminding me of the limits of my ambition. I'm sure I shall be more content knowing my place.

Nothing wrong with ambition. It's got to be realistic and achievable though. I want to be the President of the World. Doubt I have the backing financially to run for it.

All these clubs need is a billionaire backing them and they will be accepted as the 5th region.

[Tre]

Yeah yeah, I'm quite sure it doesn't matter. And after I'm dead it will matter even less.

What makes Pontypridd so deserving over Neath, Bridgend, Pontypool, Newbridge, Ebbw Vale, Caerphilly? Even North Wales?

I'd love a valleys team, I'd probably get a season ticket (I wouldn't if it was based on Pontypridd mind) but it's incredibly unlikely to happen or succeed. We have the system we have rightly or wrongly, and it isn't going to change any time soon.

[Billyfish]

I generally agree of course, we are where we are and with a limited player base and funds then we are almost certainly stuck with this model unless there is a dramatic change to alter this. I reserve the right to dislike it and moan about it though.

I think the not being shyte argument is probably the best there is, that and marquee popular players that fire the imagination of the kids, and the grown ups for that matter. Geography and the team that you elect to support are not necessarily linked looking again at wendyball. Man U being the most extreme example.