America

[morepork]

Fishtown is gentrified hipster hell. The hood is further north. These guys were apparently keen to get on the font line and help police, but the po-lice knocked them back, officially. Some of the cracker hard men were apparently pretty abusive to protestors and seem to be classic young alt-right dickheads. I fucking hate them with a passion. There seem to have been a few with firearms, but in the main it was bats, clubs and shit like that.


Pennsylvania does allow open carry with a permit, unfortunately. I don't like this.

[paddy no 11]

I've been in couer d'alene, there might be half a dozen black people there tops. Fucking idiots - trying to find some school yard tough guy analogy as that's the level of this thing

[morepork]

I've been in couer d'alene, there might be half a dozen black people there tops. Fucking idiots - trying to find some school yard tough guy analogy as that's the level of this thing

I really, really hope someone manages to rein in Orange Rambo if he gets wind of this.

[Digby]

I don't know the veracity of people, citizens, being allowed on the roofs to in some manner assist with the police, but that is worrying in the extreme and also reminds of the case of Ahmaud Arbery where Gregory McMichael has been noted someone who used to work with or in law enforcement, perhaps with the idea that somehow legitimises him as authorised to work alongside the police, possibly even to make an arrest, possibly even to use force making an arrest, and that's just nuts and shouldn't be allowed as even vague misdirection.

The police should be there to reduce danger, not escalate it. And non official persons, people not trained or not trained in current procedures, people not authorised by the state or some federal agency have no job being there and present a danger by being there, so should be obvious as something to avoid/refuse.

I'd also make the wider point that nobody who's a civilian needs an assault rifle. For myself I don't accept outside some very limited employment roles anyone needs a rifle, pistol or shotgun, I can accept some limited legitimate uses, but assault rifles don't come close to being justifiable.

[Stones of granite]

Fishtown is gentrified hipster hell. The hood is further north. These guys were apparently keen to get on the font line and help police, but the po-lice knocked them back, officially. Some of the cracker hard men were apparently pretty abusive to protestors and seem to be classic young alt-right dickheads. I fucking hate them with a passion. There seem to have been a few with firearms, but in the main it was bats, clubs and shit like that.


Pennsylvania does allow open carry with a permit, unfortunately. I don't like this.

It may not be strictly relevant, but I think it’s only within Philadelphia that a permit is required for open carry in Pennsylvania. The rest of the state allows open carry without a permit.

[morepork]

If I could be indulged in a little whine, yesterday two ma-hoosive thunderstorms ranged through blowing down ma-hoosive trees and taking out power to hundreds of thousands in the area. I spent 5 hours chainsawing free power lines to the house and reconnecting the power line to the house. There is unlikely to be any power for days, it’s 36 degrees and humid like ‘nam (which should enhance the gun fetish warrior fantasy), and it isn’t possible to drive to supermarkets that are without power because of the carnage.

#whiteboyproblems

[cashead]

Women's rights around the world including in the US still rank abysmally, they I assume are allowed to do violence to men because of the ongoing violence toward and subjugation of women? Which means both of us are fair game in the USA for the womenfolk, and if I ever return to NZ I assume I'd be fair game there too given the huge problems of racism in Kiwiland? This covid thing and having to stay home is starting to look more and more like it's saving my life.

I will though agree I am saying there's an equivalence to looking at rights, I think this because in my estimation to have equality we should be treating people equally. I don't agree I'm disgusting though I would stipulate to a number of flaws.

If the societal institutions themselves are an active tool of oppression, with systemic and institutionalised violence against minorities or what have you, then sooner or later, it's inevitable that there will be active and violent resistance those very institutions.

Pretty telling that you're apparently bothered by the idea of non-whites demanding equal rights, or that it's black v. white, when it's racists vs. everyone else.

And hey, look at all the whypeepo getting assaulted and beaten down at this protest.



Edit: it's amazing how this drunk guy gets it, but you seem to be having a very difficult time comprehending it.

Why do you assume that those who oppose violent protest are being silent?

Silent protest ≠ silence

Also silent protest has proven ineffective.

[cashead]

Meanwhile in other American news.



I’m not sure whether you call this connected or not. The prison system is unbelievably fucked, and it seems to be just the same dynamic as we’re seeing on the streets right now. God forbid that prison isn’t just a money making scam where you can cram countless bodies in with under-trained guards and hope things don’t turn sour.

It does say that he was being disruptive so I guess that’s that. I'm considering spending the next week or so lamenting that he chose to be disruptive and how that may harmed his cause. If only these poor black guys could stop having such a high interaction rate with law enforcement. Why do they choose to do that? It's such an odd choice for them to make.

Don't worry though, folks. Sleepy Joe is on the case.

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/20 ... al-record/

ACAB

"He was being disruptive" could mean anything, but at the same time, it also does reek a bit of the same victim blaming shit that happened when Trayvon Martin got shot by George Zimmerman for walking while black - you know, the "he was suspended from school because he smoked some pot" shit, or the "George Floyd did a bit of meth!" shit recently.

Can't wait to hear the victim-blaming rationalisation for Breona Taylor, who got shot because she was sleeping in her own bed while black.

[Puja]

More police protecting and serving:



Puja

[cashead]

OH WOW GEE I WONDER WHY

IT IS A MISTERY

[cashead]

More police protecting and serving:



Puja

"But the protests are violent!"


Maybe it's not the fucking protests that have turned violent.

[Digby]

The violence is and should be covered, and where possible it should be followed up on. There are reasons why the police get themselves into some escalating situations, just as there are with some protesters, but it's still more unacceptable from a group whose job is to protect society and provides such authoritarian approval to many of their actions in furtherance of their jobs.

[cashead]

The violence is and should be covered, and where possible it should be followed up on. There are reasons why the police get themselves into some escalating situations, just as there are with some protesters, but it's still more unacceptable from a group whose job is to protect society and provides such authoritarian approval to many of their actions in furtherance of their jobs.

[Mikey Brown]

I’m guessing everyone saw that old man who got shoved over and cracked his head on the floor while a dozen police officers continued walking by, I can’t bring myself to post any more of these videos. Apparently he’s stable now, which is something.

There should be several people losing their jobs over that incident at the very least. Maybe as it was quite a frail looking old white guy there’s a bit more hope of that happening.

[Puja]

Jesus Fucking Christ America



For those without energy to view a video, there is an elderly man waving a sign as riot police march forward. One of them shoves him and he stumbles back and cracks his head on the concrete. He lies still and there's a visible pool of blood forming at the back of his head. The cop who shoved him looks like he's going to stop and check, but the cop behind him grabs him by the back of the flak jacket and pushes him back into line. The riot police march past the supine, bleeding pensioner, pausing only to turn on the camera crew making the video and demand they move along

Puja

[Sandydragon]

Jesus Fucking Christ America



For those without energy to view a video, there is an elderly man waving a sign as riot police march forward. One of them shoves him and he stumbles back and cracks his head on the concrete. He lies still and there's a visible pool of blood forming at the back of his head. The cop who shoved him looks like he's going to stop and check, but the cop behind him grabs him by the back of the flak jacket and pushes him back into line. The riot police march past the supine, bleeding pensioner, pausing only to turn on the camera crew making the video and demand they move along

Puja

Yes, its shocking. The 2 officers involved have been suspended pending an investigation.

[morepork]

Just a few bad apples. In over 40 fucking cities. Can you define systemic for me, because from where I’m standing the whole fucking orchard is rotten.

[Digby]

I don't think it's fair to say the whole lot are bad/corrupt, and actually I think there'd be far more civil disobedience if that was the bigger picture being assumed across the country.

What I'm wondering at the moment is what happens with the news that there are so many unidentified persons now involved? Are they federal officers or local police dressing up or actually military troops? Who is ordering them into action? And how will this be investigated because my any measure it looks a ridiculous, unsafe and antagonistic approach to law and order and it would seem rather illegal too? I cannot confess to being happy if the required starting point into an investigation with this resides with one William Barr when there's got to be a decent chance Barr is the one directing the shitfest.

[Puja]

Jesus Fucking Christ America



For those without energy to view a video, there is an elderly man waving a sign as riot police march forward. One of them shoves him and he stumbles back and cracks his head on the concrete. He lies still and there's a visible pool of blood forming at the back of his head. The cop who shoved him looks like he's going to stop and check, but the cop behind him grabs him by the back of the flak jacket and pushes him back into line. The riot police march past the supine, bleeding pensioner, pausing only to turn on the camera crew making the video and demand they move along

Puja

Yes, its shocking. The 2 officers involved have been suspended pending an investigation.

This feels symbolic of our previous discussion - not all the police in that video are involved in causing serious head injury to an unthreatening OAP, but not a one of them rebuked them, not a one of them went to give first aid. The only ones that broke from the pack were those who went to shut down the camera crew. And, let's face it, the only reason those two officers are facing punishment is because it was caught on a really good video - before that, the official line from Buffalo PD was that a man had "tripped and fallen" during a "skirmish involving protesters". They aren't facing punishment because other cops said, "Jim shoved an old man down so he cracked his skull and Dave told him not to help him."

Not all of the police in the video assaulted an OAP. All of them are complicit.

Puja

[Stom]

Jesus Fucking Christ America



For those without energy to view a video, there is an elderly man waving a sign as riot police march forward. One of them shoves him and he stumbles back and cracks his head on the concrete. He lies still and there's a visible pool of blood forming at the back of his head. The cop who shoved him looks like he's going to stop and check, but the cop behind him grabs him by the back of the flak jacket and pushes him back into line. The riot police march past the supine, bleeding pensioner, pausing only to turn on the camera crew making the video and demand they move along

Puja

Yes, its shocking. The 2 officers involved have been suspended pending an investigation.

This feels symbolic of our previous discussion - not all the police in that video are involved in causing serious head injury to an unthreatening OAP, but not a one of them rebuked them, not a one of them went to give first aid. The only ones that broke from the pack were those who went to shut down the camera crew. And, let's face it, the only reason those two officers are facing punishment is because it was caught on a really good video - before that, the official line from Buffalo PD was that a man had "tripped and fallen" during a "skirmish involving protesters". They aren't facing punishment because other cops said, "Jim shoved an old man down so he cracked his skull and Dave told him not to help him."

Not all of the police in the video assaulted an OAP. All of them are complicit.

Puja

This is the entire crux of our argument here, Sandy. By doing nothing, they are complicit. And the same stands for everything else around this. By focusing on alleged violence by protestors, you are complicit in covering up for a systematically despicable organisation that needs serious root and branch reform.

But considering the entire country seems that way, you'd need to do it to the entire country...

I know that if I were the leader of a large block of countries with a good deal of power, I'd be looking to put trade embargoes on all these corrupt states like the US, China, and Russia.

[Digby]

If you put trade embargoes on the USA, Russia and China then even if there wasn't a pandemic you'd cause a lot of economic damage across the globe. Maybe you're willing to pay the price but a lot of that price is going to hit those on the lowest incomes hardest, plus ca change, and that before we'd see a big increase in the risk of military action

[morepork]

Embargoes imposed on the US is a great idea. Start with the weapons industry . If the US government won’t act to rein in the authorities maybe the collective will of the entire world can compel these feckless cunts to act. What other nation in the world has fallen so steeply from favour ? Ligitimise the just protestations of the majority here that refuse to validate state-sponsored oppression that got old 300 years ago. Nothing else matters right now.

[Puja]

Jesus Fucking Christ America



For those without energy to view a video, there is an elderly man waving a sign as riot police march forward. One of them shoves him and he stumbles back and cracks his head on the concrete. He lies still and there's a visible pool of blood forming at the back of his head. The cop who shoved him looks like he's going to stop and check, but the cop behind him grabs him by the back of the flak jacket and pushes him back into line. The riot police march past the supine, bleeding pensioner, pausing only to turn on the camera crew making the video and demand they move along.

So, literally a day before assaulting a septuagenarian protestor, those exact same police officers were taking a knee to show their solidarity with them in what was absolutely not an empty PR stunt.



W O W.

Puja

[morepork]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquir ... utType=amp


Fuck your bad apples

[Donny osmond]

Posting this as I think it's a very brave and thoughtful thread.

From twitter user @amirpars_

THREAD
I will lose many friends over what I'm about to say.

I will possibly be called a racist or even a white supremacist (even though I'm a brown man, who's been beaten to a pulp by neo-Nazis wearing steel toed boots).

But maybe, just maybe, the fact that I am getting 100% of

my information from the black scholars in the picture - The Great Thomas Sowell, Glenn Loury, Shelby Steele, John McWorther, Coleman Hughes, Kmele Foster and Thomas Chatterton Williams, allows me some room for thought?

I’ve been watching the narrative play universally over

the heinous killing of George Floyd, and the complete and utter lack of facts about African Americans in The US has been infuriating.

Unfortunately, anyone who doesn’t submit to the dominant narrative will be called a heretic, a racist, a whites supremacist etc.

Still, I can’t stop myself.

1. Black Lives Matter don’t care about black people. Want evidence? Name me a single time - just once - when they’ve protested against black people being killed by other black people? Whether in America or elsewhere?
Why is this relevant?

Because the biggest cause of death for black men aged 15-45 in USA is... other black men. Compare to white people, where it’s traffic accidents for the younger portion and heart attacks for those over 35.
Or how about the black lives in Sudan, East Timor, Libya?

Why do we only ever hear from BLM when it’s a white person killing a black person?

2. Speaking of which - imagine if white people started doing the reverse. Imagine every time a white person was killed by a black person, there’d be protests, riots, looting and

social media campaigns. First thing to notice is that it would be more frequent, because African Americans kill more white people in the US than white people kill African Americans. Now what?

Should we really start applying the race card every time there’s a murder involving more than one pigmentation? Where will it end?

3. Police killings. The video of the murder of George Floyd is so visceral, by showing the casual evil with which officer Derek Chauvin kills

George Floyd. People are rightly outraged, and no one can honestly defend the officer, who rightly has been arrested and hopefully will spend his remaining years behind bars (although the prosecutor has been idiotic in moving the case from 2nd degree to first degree murder -

a burden of proof they will most likely fail to provide).

But... The only reason people are up in arms about these is that the social media and MSM attention focuses disproportionately on these incidents when the victim is black and the officer isn't. Don't believe me?

Let me prove it:
You've all heard of Tamir Rice - a 12 year old black boy who was murdered when brandishing a toy gun. It was all over the news, there were riots and marches, hashtags and universal condemnation all over the media.
But how many of you have heard of Daniel Shaver?

A white man who was showing his friends a scoped air rife used to exterminate birds who entered his store, and was killed for this?

You may remember the case of Sam DuBose, a black man who was shot dead for driving his car away from from the police.

The exact same thing happened to before that to Andrew Thomas, a white man driving away from the police. None of you have heard of him.

Alton Sterling was a black man shot dead by the police when reaching into his pocket for his wallet - a travesty.

The same thing happened to a white guy named Dylan Noble. Sterling made national headlines, none of us heard a word about Noble. Loren Simpson was a white teenager who was shot dead by the police in eerily similar circumstances as George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin.

You've not heard of the former, but demanded justice for the latter. You've not heard of James Boyd, Alfred Redwine, Brandon Stanley or Mary Hawkes.

But you've heard of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.

Because the only times police killings make the news is when the victim is black and the officer isn't.

Here are the FBI, NCJRS and BJS statistics:

For every 10, 000 black people arrested for violent crime, 3 are killed by the police.

For every 10, 000 white people arrested for violent crime, 4 are killed by the police.

In 2019, 49 unarmed people were killed by the police. 9 were black. 19 were white.
The likelihood for a black person being shot by the police is as high as being struck by lightning.

Yet, we are seeing riots, every single post on Instagram and Twitter is in support of Black Lives Matter and denunciation of police in America...

4. "Systemic Racism" / "Institutionalised racism".

Sound good, don't they? Such powerful words...

and completely inaccurate. First, let's see what the claims being made are:

Both insinuate built-in racism within various official institutions (police, law, governments etc).

Yet, when they are challenged, by asking the proponents to provide *evidence* for these, nothing is provided. Name one single law that is targeting exclusively black people. Just one. There isn't one.

If the police is "systematically" anti-black, explain how it is possible that 20% of the Police Force in America is black (African Americans in America constitute roughly 14% of the population, meaning that blacks are *overrepresented* within the police force!)?

Now, imagine how incredibly racist it is to say that the 100, 000 plus black police officers are too stupid to know that they are working inside and within a racist institution? That really is racism. And none of them have come out and said anything???

None of them have gone on 60 Minutes and said "We are being trained to be racists"? Seriously?

How about governments? Well, let's leave aside the fact that America just had a two-term black president (whose second name was Hussein, by the way).

Some of America's worst run cities have black mayors, black governors and majority black councils. Look at two of the worst cities in America to be black in:
Baltimore and Chicago. Why is it that a place where the people in power are black can be *worse* for the African American

Community, than cities that aren't run by black politicians? This is a knock-down argument.

5. Disparity.

People often look at the economic disparities between blacks and whites, and claim it to be evidence for institutionalised racism. It says something about the power of a

narrative, when it has been debunked decades ago - by BLACK ECONOMISTS (like The Great Thomas Sowell) - yet the myth persists.

First of all, at no point in human history has any two groups of people had the same level of wealth or income as each other.

It would be an absolute miracle to expect that people with different backgrounds, cultures, histories, values and ethics to have the same level of wealth.

This is even true within so called races - compare for example Black Americans (generational) vs Black Immigrants...

particularly the ones from West Indies (Jamaica, Barbados etc.).

You couldn't tell these people apart, just by looking at them, and whatever racism is in place for one group must by definition be applied for the second group.

But what they have is completely different values and work ethics (the Jamaicans arriving in the US does so commonly to achieve greater heights than what he or she can in their home country).

Whatever level of systemic racism exists, they are subjected to it as much as the African American.

Yet, already in the 1970's (!!!), when racism was far more prevalent than it is today, Black Americans from the West Indies were earning 58% more than the Black American whose

generations go back centuries in the United States. How could that be, if there's supposed to be such a thing as "systemic racism"?

Disparities are only proof of disparities. Just because Group X doesn't have the same as Group Y, doesn't mean that it's explained by racism.

And why does this so called "White Supremacy" only run against one group of Black Americans? Why doesn't it run against Asian Americans, who out earn White Americans by over 60%? Why doesn't it apply to Jewish Americans? Or Indian Americans, all of whom earn more than...

White Americans??

Maybe there's something else going on...?

In 1965, Daniel Patrick Moynihan published his report "The Negro Family: The Case For National Action", where he saw that African American households were 25% single mothers - a frightening statistic that would have

devastating consequences. Since then, Jim Crow laws and Red Lining have all been removed from the books, Martin Luther King Jr. and The Civil Rights Movement made tremendous strides and we've now even had a black two-term president.

But, today, black households with no paternal

figure, and only a single mother constitute SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT of all black households in America!!! SEVENTY FIVE!!!!

Now you tell me, which is the better explanation for young black children ending up in a life of crime - the lack of a father figure, or the mythical,

non-explainable entity known only as "institutional racism", which for some reasons doesn't apply to Nigerian immigrants, to black immigrants from West Indies, to Indian people, to Jewish people, to Asian Americans...?

6. Criminality.

"Why are blacks being disproportionately imprisoned? There's a racist Prison Industry Complex!"

The key word here is "disproportionately". Because it most certainly is true that African Americans make out the majority of prisoners in America, but what is the evidence that

this is disproportionate? It's non-existent.

Let's look at the stats:

Black Americans constitute roughly 14% of the population in America, yet they commit 50% of all the murders. But, this is misleading - because it's not the elderly, nor the children nor the women who commit

the murders. It's almost exclusively the young men (15-40). That constitutes about a fourth of the black population, which means that about 3.5% of the American population are responsible for 50% of all the murders!

Read this again: 3.5% of Americans are responsible for 50% of

all murders.

You will find similar astonishing figures for drug related crimes, armed robberies, breaking and entering and gang violence.

So, even though it is true that black people make up the majority of the prison population, the incarceration rates are only proportionate

against the crime rate, not the population.

7. History of slavery, Jim Crow and Red Lining

"Well, that maybe so, but it's because of the history of slavery and Jim Crow!"

I don't doubt the good intentions of those making these arguments, but they don't actually see how it is

a classic case of Racism of lower expectations.

No one has been able to provide a logical link between historical racism and the plight of people today.

First of all, what's unique about racism in America (and Britain, for that matter) is that these countries abolished slavery

when they did! They were among the first countries in the world to do so, and America even fought a bloody civil war to implement the 13th Amendment. Almost every country in the world practiced slavery, and there are many - particularly in Subsaharan Africa - who still do to this

day.

And it most certainly is true that racism didn't end with slavery, and evil practices such as Jim Crow, segregation and Red Lining were practiced until the 70's. But - and here is the most astonishing fact of all - African American's had *more* wealth and less unemployment

during those times than today, when such practices have been abolished and are rightly considered moral evils.

Now, before anyone makes the nonsensical claim that "You're saying we should oppress them then, because they had it better!?", let me explain that correlation does not

mean causation. But just as facts don't care about feelings, reality won't comply with narrative.

8. "America is a White Supremacist society!"

This is one of the most egregious claims out there. First of all, compared to what? Show me a country where blacks are a minority, but

still get to be elected presidents, have more than 50 Mayors, congressmen and women, run city councils and have had multiple presidential candidates. Show me one.

America (and Britain) are two of the least racist societies on earth and in history. For god's sake, look at the

response from the murder of George Floyd! Just look at the outpouring of support for black people, the universal condemnation of racism from exactly all corners of the political spectrum, the complete solidarity from every white person with a social media account.

9. "Black Lives Matter"

This is a big one. Because I don't know of many organisations who care less about black lives than Black Lives Matter. 93% of all killings of black people are done by other blacks - BLM are completely silent on this.

BLM has never - not a single time - had a march or campaign black people being killed en massé in places like Sudan, Eritrea, Somalia or Libya.

Instead, what they have done is to have chants like "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon" (about the police), which inspired a

lunatic in Dallas to murder 3 police officers.

During the current riots, a 77 year old, black former Police Captain - David Dorn - was murdered by rioters. BLM has not said a word.

BLM reject Martin Luther King Jr.'s sentiment that people should

"...be judged based on the content of their character, not the colour of their skin". If you've actually listened to the "I have a dream" speech, that line is the one which got the loudest cheers and applauses.

BLM believe people who aspire to apply this principle of colour blindness are racists.

Conclusion:

I can go on and on. I've provided my sources below, and I can point to the works of economists and criminologists and historians for further data.

But I don't it will matter - the narrative is too strong, and people are too emotionally invested. Facts don't stand a chance.

People are so keen to use the tragic murder of George Floyd to wave their anti-racism badges and flags. It makes them feel good.

Black friends of mine, who are incredibly successful in their fields, are talking about how they've been victims all their lives, even though they are some of the luckiest people who have ever lived, regardless of race.

All I ask of you, if you're reading this

(and I doubt many will, certainly not to the end) is to ask yourself "What if what Amir is saying is true?"

That's all I can hope for.

Sources:

2017 FBI UCR:

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UCRhttps://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u

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2018 FBI UCR:
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2017 Police Shootings:
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2018 Police Shootings:
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National ReviewLeading conservative magazine and website covering news, politics, current events, and culture with detailed analysis and commentary.https://www.nationalreview.com/

…/it-isnt-legacy-slavery-ca…/

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The Wall Street Journal - Breaking News, Business, Financial & Economic News, World News and VideoBreaking news and analysis from the U.S. and around the world at WSJ.com. Politics, Economics, Markets, Life & Arts, and in-depth reporting.https://www.wsj.com/

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politifact.com…/cnns-don-lemon-says-more-72-p…/

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Police Kill Too Many People—White and BlackThis list of whites dying at the hands of cops must inform how we go forward in grappling with the issues.https://time.com/4404987/police-violence/

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Police officers | Data USAPolice officers are most often employed by the Justice, public order, & safety activities  industry. The average yearly wage for Police officers was $69,036 in 2016. The top 3 mos…https://datausa.io/profile/soc/333050/#demographics



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How Anti Racism Hurts Black People - John McWhorterJohn McWhorter discusses the harms of anti-racism.



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