Perhaps concerned that we only had one specialist jumper. Launchbury isn't great at the lineout and the two flankers are decent but not that tall by modern standards. The French pack seemed to have more options and confidence at the lineout. Trying to mix it up and make it more difficult to fool France. Didn't work so on came a more confident jumper in Hill.Banquo wrote:We seemed to be trying new and overcomplicated drills- George looked unusually confused in the first half.FKAS wrote:Banquo wrote: Sent on to help the lineout which we promptly lost:)
very true though the lineout did improve over the second half. I'm not sure if that wasn't because Wookie went off though he seemed to be the thorn in our side.
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who lost the next lineoutFKAS wrote:Perhaps concerned that we only had one specialist jumper. Launchbury isn't great at the lineout and the two flankers are decent but not that tall by modern standards. The French pack seemed to have more options and confidence at the lineout. Trying to mix it up and make it more difficult to fool France. Didn't work so on came a more confident jumper in Hill.Banquo wrote:We seemed to be trying new and overcomplicated drills- George looked unusually confused in the first half.FKAS wrote:
very true though the lineout did improve over the second half. I'm not sure if that wasn't because Wookie went off though he seemed to be the thorn in our side.

It worked perfectly well v Ireland who picked 4 jumpers, and we didn't even use Curry. We lost one and stole 4. Even better v Wales.
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I think it's as much the calling as it is the personnel. Several of the lineouts that we lost, France were ready for us and we threw there anyway. Who was in charge there - was it Itoje?Banquo wrote:who lost the next lineoutFKAS wrote:Perhaps concerned that we only had one specialist jumper. Launchbury isn't great at the lineout and the two flankers are decent but not that tall by modern standards. The French pack seemed to have more options and confidence at the lineout. Trying to mix it up and make it more difficult to fool France. Didn't work so on came a more confident jumper in Hill.Banquo wrote: We seemed to be trying new and overcomplicated drills- George looked unusually confused in the first half.. The French, as they always do, use non jumping locks to lift back row. Worth a thought.
It worked perfectly well v Ireland who picked 4 jumpers, and we didn't even use Curry. We lost one and stole 4. Even better v Wales.
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as I said, they had new drills- Flatman remarked that it was drill issues. How many were lost, out of interest? Can't find any stats,Puja wrote:I think it's as much the calling as it is the personnel. Several of the lineouts that we lost, France were ready for us and we threw there anyway. Who was in charge there - was it Itoje?Banquo wrote:who lost the next lineoutFKAS wrote:
Perhaps concerned that we only had one specialist jumper. Launchbury isn't great at the lineout and the two flankers are decent but not that tall by modern standards. The French pack seemed to have more options and confidence at the lineout. Trying to mix it up and make it more difficult to fool France. Didn't work so on came a more confident jumper in Hill.. The French, as they always do, use non jumping locks to lift back row. Worth a thought.
It worked perfectly well v Ireland who picked 4 jumpers, and we didn't even use Curry. We lost one and stole 4. Even better v Wales.
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If you’re going to get so sanctimonious about a typographical error you could at least pay equal care to your own manners...or lack thereof in this instanceScrumhead wrote:I strongly suspect Curry and Underhill could swap shirts, play the exact same roles they do now and jngf would say they’d both had brilliant games.Mikey Brown wrote:Are you honestly expecting a response?Raggs wrote:
How is it "wringing" hollow? And what's the difference between the 6 and the 7 in how England play?
Underhill just had a bad day.
Curry continues to impress with his multiple USPs including being a very powerful carrier. Almost looked like a number 8 at times.
If anything is ‘ringing hollow’ (without the superfluous w), it’s jngf’s constant repetition of the same old sh*t.
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Was it that they were ready for us, or was it that they were pulling the trick, that we used to use with Croft and now do with Itoje, of putting your athletic jumper up as high and as quickly as you can and daring the opposition to jump against him / throw over him?Banquo wrote:as I said, they had new drills- Flatman remarked that it was drill issues. How many were lost, out of interest? Can't find any stats,Puja wrote:I think it's as much the calling as it is the personnel. Several of the lineouts that we lost, France were ready for us and we threw there anyway. Who was in charge there - was it Itoje?Banquo wrote: who lost the next lineout. The French, as they always do, use non jumping locks to lift back row. Worth a thought.
It worked perfectly well v Ireland who picked 4 jumpers, and we didn't even use Curry. We lost one and stole 4. Even better v Wales.
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One was, but the rest, they moved with us and we jumped right next to their jumper rather than pivoting to another option that could've gone up unopposed.16th man wrote:Was it that they were ready for us, or was it that they were pulling the trick, that we used to use with Croft and now do with Itoje, of putting your athletic jumper up as high and as quickly as you can and daring the opposition to jump against him / throw over him?Banquo wrote:as I said, they had new drills- Flatman remarked that it was drill issues. How many were lost, out of interest? Can't find any stats,Puja wrote:
I think it's as much the calling as it is the personnel. Several of the lineouts that we lost, France were ready for us and we threw there anyway. Who was in charge there - was it Itoje?
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Oh and I think it was either 3 or 4, Banquo
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Sorry - I wasn’t meaning to offend you.jngf wrote:If you’re going to get so sanctimonious about a typographical error you could at least pay equal care to your own manners...or lack thereof in this instanceScrumhead wrote:I strongly suspect Curry and Underhill could swap shirts, play the exact same roles they do now and jngf would say they’d both had brilliant games.Mikey Brown wrote:
Are you honestly expecting a response?
Underhill just had a bad day.
Curry continues to impress with his multiple USPs including being a very powerful carrier. Almost looked like a number 8 at times.
If anything is ‘ringing hollow’ (without the superfluous w), it’s jngf’s constant repetition of the same old sh*t.