Trump

[Digby]

Luckily he can probably find a bank or two in London, we're world class for facilitating the worst examples of humanity that can be thrown at us in the name of making a penny or two, especially if the sums of Russian money being laundered are large

[Zhivago]

can we lock this thread now? or do we have to let it die a slow death off the first page?

[Which Tyler]

Luckily he can probably find a bank or two in London, we're world class for facilitating the worst examples of humanity that can be thrown at us in the name of making a penny or two, especially if the sums of Russian money being laundered are large

It' lawyers, not banks, who make money of Trump (and even that is assuming that he ever gets around to paying the lawyers). The banks just foot the bill for his next bankruptcy.

can we lock this thread now? or do we have to let it die a slow death off the first page?

It deserves the same as Trump - a slow death born of being roundly ignored by everyone.
Mind you, it could be argued that it deserves the same as Trump - to be locked up.

Personally, I'd keep it open - so that we can discuss his impeachment, various other prosecutions, and hopefully his imprisonment.

[morepork]

Stay classy Fat Mike.

Multiculturalism bad. FFS.

[Mikey Brown]

Multiculturalism being inherently divisive is an interesting concept to try and get your head around.

[Puja]

Luckily he can probably find a bank or two in London, we're world class for facilitating the worst examples of humanity that can be thrown at us in the name of making a penny or two, especially if the sums of Russian money being laundered are large

The problem with that theory is that it requires Trump's businesses to make money instead of losing it hand-over-fist. Deutsche Bank only gave him his last loan because he was so badly indebted to them that it would've cost them more for him to go under.

Puja

[cashead]

can we lock this thread now? or do we have to let it die a slow death off the first page?

There's still stuff like the inevitable impeachment, the shitloads of arrests of the failed putsch putzes, etc. to look forward to.

[morepork]

Plus there is a whole new generation of home schooled law makers that work entirely via social media and think spreading conspiracy theory = work. One of them has stated they will be "filing Articles of Impeachment against Joe Biden for abuse of power".


So...much....FUK.

[Which Tyler]

From the well known clip of Lisa succeeding President Trump:

[Eugene Wrayburn]

Multiculturalism being inherently divisive is an interesting concept to try and get your head around.

Stay classy Fat Mike.

Multiculturalism bad. FFS.

Multiculturalism is literally the founding principle of the country. Granted they have rarely lived up to it, but it is the whole point of the nation.

[Digby]

Luckily he can probably find a bank or two in London, we're world class for facilitating the worst examples of humanity that can be thrown at us in the name of making a penny or two, especially if the sums of Russian money being laundered are large

It' lawyers, not banks, who make money of Trump (and even that is assuming that he ever gets around to paying the lawyers). The banks just foot the bill for his next bankruptcy.

can we lock this thread now? or do we have to let it die a slow death off the first page?

It deserves the same as Trump - a slow death born of being roundly ignored by everyone.
Mind you, it could be argued that it deserves the same as Trump - to be locked up.

Personally, I'd keep it open - so that we can discuss his impeachment, various other prosecutions, and hopefully his imprisonment.

In defence of the banks there's a lot of money to be made from money laundering. Banking covers a multitude of sins beyond extending credit

[morepork]

Multiculturalism being inherently divisive is an interesting concept to try and get your head around.

Stay classy Fat Mike.

Multiculturalism bad. FFS.

Multiculturalism is literally the founding principle of the country. Granted they have rarely lived up to it, but it is the whole point of the nation.

Exactamundo.

[cashead]

Christ, every single one of those cunts that enabled and supported Trump for the last 5 or so years should have a big "T" carved into their faces - give them the Hester Prynne treatment, but adjust it accordingly for racist fash-loving shitcunts.

You could argue for their human rights, but then you'd have made a fatal mistake. How can "human" rights apply to fascists? You need to be human first.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Luckily he can probably find a bank or two in London, we're world class for facilitating the worst examples of humanity that can be thrown at us in the name of making a penny or two, especially if the sums of Russian money being laundered are large

It' lawyers, not banks, who make money of Trump (and even that is assuming that he ever gets around to paying the lawyers). The banks just foot the bill for his next bankruptcy.

can we lock this thread now? or do we have to let it die a slow death off the first page?

It deserves the same as Trump - a slow death born of being roundly ignored by everyone.
Mind you, it could be argued that it deserves the same as Trump - to be locked up.

Personally, I'd keep it open - so that we can discuss his impeachment, various other prosecutions, and hopefully his imprisonment.

In defence of the banks there's a lot of money to be made from money laundering. Banking covers a multitude of sins beyond extending credit

Not sure what kind of 'defence' that is. Certainly not a moral or legal one.

Agreed though, the City of London has much expertise in this area.

[Mikey Brown]

This is one of those I'm worried will quickly be debunked, but I hope not.

[Eugene Wrayburn]

Christ, every single one of those cunts that enabled and supported Trump for the last 5 or so years should have a big "T" carved into their faces - give them the Hester Prynne treatment, but adjust it accordingly for racist fash-loving shitcunts.

You could argue for their human rights, but then you'd have made a fatal mistake. How can "human" rights apply to fascists? You need to be human first.

This sort of thinking is both wrong and counterproductive. If you make them inhuman you make it so that they aren't responsible.You also persuade others that since they aren't inhuman they can't have fascistic ideas.

[Sandydragon]

Luckily he can probably find a bank or two in London, we're world class for facilitating the worst examples of humanity that can be thrown at us in the name of making a penny or two, especially if the sums of Russian money being laundered are large

It' lawyers, not banks, who make money of Trump (and even that is assuming that he ever gets around to paying the lawyers). The banks just foot the bill for his next bankruptcy.

can we lock this thread now? or do we have to let it die a slow death off the first page?

It deserves the same as Trump - a slow death born of being roundly ignored by everyone.
Mind you, it could be argued that it deserves the same as Trump - to be locked up.

Personally, I'd keep it open - so that we can discuss his impeachment, various other prosecutions, and hopefully his imprisonment.

This.

[Sandydragon]

Christ, every single one of those cunts that enabled and supported Trump for the last 5 or so years should have a big "T" carved into their faces - give them the Hester Prynne treatment, but adjust it accordingly for racist fash-loving shitcunts.

You could argue for their human rights, but then you'd have made a fatal mistake. How can "human" rights apply to fascists? You need to be human first.

This sort of thinking is both wrong and counterproductive. If you make them inhuman you make it so that they aren't responsible.You also persuade others that since they aren't inhuman they can't have fascistic ideas.

Agreed. Dehumanising people you disagree with is never a good idea - it leaves them no where to go. If you believe people are animals then you will treat them that way.

[Puja]

Christ, every single one of those cunts that enabled and supported Trump for the last 5 or so years should have a big "T" carved into their faces - give them the Hester Prynne treatment, but adjust it accordingly for racist fash-loving shitcunts.

You could argue for their human rights, but then you'd have made a fatal mistake. How can "human" rights apply to fascists? You need to be human first.

This sort of thinking is both wrong and counterproductive. If you make them inhuman you make it so that they aren't responsible.You also persuade others that since they aren't inhuman they can't have fascistic ideas.

This is a key point for me. Education in the UK made such a point that racists were terrible awful people, which is good in one way, but means that people flip out when you say they've done or said something racist - racists are terrible awful people, they don't think they're a terrible awful person, therefore what they said wasn't racist, therefore you are the problem for calling them names, woke-boy.

Puja

[Digby]

therefore you are the problem for calling them names, woke-boy.

Puja

Is it woke to assume it'd be at a boy?

[Puja]

therefore you are the problem for calling them names, woke-boy.

Puja

Is it woke to assume it'd be at a boy?

Well, if they're addressing me, then it's fine. Pronouns he/him/his.

Puja

[cashead]

Christ, every single one of those cunts that enabled and supported Trump for the last 5 or so years should have a big "T" carved into their faces - give them the Hester Prynne treatment, but adjust it accordingly for racist fash-loving shitcunts.

You could argue for their human rights, but then you'd have made a fatal mistake. How can "human" rights apply to fascists? You need to be human first.

This sort of thinking is both wrong and counterproductive. If you make them inhuman you make it so that they aren't responsible.You also persuade others that since they aren't inhuman they can't have fascistic ideas.

You make it a fucking nightmare for them to openly espouse their shit, and you make them suffer the consequences of their actions. Limitless tolerance afforded to the intolerant eventually leads to an intolerant society, and to remain tolerant, we must paradoxically be intolerant of intolerance - even violently so. And the chuds are a good enough place to start.

The only good nazi is a dead nazi. I don't know about you, but I can live with a few good nazis - but I'm willing to live with seeing them tarred and feathered.

In a functional society, nazis should be discouraged from being nazis, with rocks and pointed sticks - not given a platform so we can "hear them out." The Battle of Cable Street wasn't won by the antifa heroes of 1930s London through a polite discussion about the merits and drawbacks of fascism, it was done by literally kicking the fash-cunts off the streets.

This is a key point for me. Education in the UK made such a point that racists were terrible awful people, which is good in one way, but means that people flip out when you say they've done or said something racist - racists are terrible awful people, they don't think they're a terrible awful person, therefore what they said wasn't racist, therefore you are the problem for calling them names, woke-boy.

Puja

The fetishistic emphasis on STEM subjects at the expense of MESH subjects is how we ended up where we are.

[Stom]

Fighting fascists is not going to do anything for the next generation...

To get rid of fascists, you need to change the message. And as we're in this mess already, we need to be patient with it.

Be forceful with imposing the current laws, but don't make up new ones.

Doesn't your favourite, Zizek, talk about fascism as an inevitability? It's bought about by social situations that create a perfect storm.

[Mikey Brown]

Wow.

https://khn.org/news/article/trumps-par ... ssion=true

[Digby]

The fetishistic emphasis on STEM subjects at the expense of MESH subjects is how we ended up where we are.

Just where are you seeing the dangerous over reach of science and a scientifically literate populace?