Is the violence were currently seeing as "simple" as unionists feeling betrayed by the UK govt, or is there a deeper malaise?
Will this lead inevitably to the demise of the GFA?
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It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Yes Boris lied about no border down Irish sea
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I'd say there's some people who would like for northern Ireland to be the premier rout for smuggling between the EU and UK
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[DeadpoolShockedReact.gif]Zhivago wrote:Yes Boris lied about no border down Irish sea
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Definitely old grievances still exist, but the impact of Brexit is a big factor. Unionists don’t take much to feel betrayed.Donny osmond wrote:Is the violence were currently seeing as "simple" as unionists feeling betrayed by the UK govt, or is there a deeper malaise?
Will this lead inevitably to the demise of the GFA?
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As always your perception is ... admirable*Zhivago wrote:Yes Boris lied about no border down Irish sea
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It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Taken from: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... rn-irelandThere are three broad causes of these riots: the simmering unionist anger over the Irish Sea border as a result of Brexit; the decision not to prosecute Sinn Féin politicians for an alleged coronavirus breach at the funeral of Bobby Storey last June; and loyalist paramilitary groups encouraging young people in their communities to cause trouble, partly in protest at the above, and partly to push back against recent police action to curb their criminal activity and community influence. If you miss any of those out you fail accurately to capture the nuances of the situation in Northern Ireland, where serious political ideals are so often muddied with base politics and exploited by groups with other motives.
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That’s a good point about the criminal activities. That was a major issue in the early 00s and obviously hasn’t improved, hence the crackdown.