I can see why you might roll your eyes...

[Donny osmond]

I'm going to live in Wales

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[Donny osmond]

All together now

[emoji446][emoji445][emoji450]

Nothing ever happens...
Nothing happens at all...
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before

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[Banquo]

All together now

[emoji446][emoji445][emoji450]

Nothing ever happens...
Nothing happens at all...
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before

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Yep, the precentages pro indy and pro union seem to be about the same split as 2014, despite giving the yoof the vote. Pleasing to see Salmond's epic fail as well.

[Digby]

What Salmond would call an epic fial

[Galfon]

Latest Covid briefing:
The Indian variant will now be called 'April-02'
reason: 'important for us not to allow this virus to divide us as communities and people.. '

The 'UK variant' however was still referred to as the 'Kent' variant..

[Puja]

Latest Covid briefing:
The Indian variant will now be called 'April-02'
reason: 'important for us not to allow this virus to divide us as communities and people.. '

The 'UK variant' however was still referred to as the 'Kent' variant..

I'm actually in favour of that - given the number of stupid racist people out there, I'm surprised that there haven't been more example of being being dicks/violent to those of South Asian descent because they blame Indians for the variant, like the uptick in anti-East Asian racism because of "the China virus". There's nobody harrassing people from the Home Counties for being dirty foreigners spreading disease.

Puja

[Donny osmond]

Latest Covid briefing:
The Indian variant will now be called 'April-02'
reason: 'important for us not to allow this virus to divide us as communities and people.. '

The 'UK variant' however was still referred to as the 'Kent' variant..

It's the sort of thing where I don't know whether to laugh or cry that shit like this is what takes up the brain space of our cabinet ministers.

The same nimrod that came out with that particular nugget, is currently staying very quiet about a fake video he tweeted about despite it being part of an active police investigation. He was our justice minister at the time. He's been moved in the reshuffle to health, hence the mensa display quoted above.

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[Which Tyler]

Of course it's already got a name, "B1.617.2"
It's just a but awkward.

Absolutely right not to name things by country though

[Donny osmond]

Might have an April-02 for dinner tonight



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[Galfon]

Certainly good for ye Deltoids..

Teachers finally step in after all the name-calling in the playground:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-57308592

[Digby]

is the eye rolling observation on this there are only 20 odd variants to go?

[Galfon]

is the eye rolling observation on this there are only 20 odd variants to go?

True - it won't take long, can see numbers getting thrown in before long.
The latest Vietnam jobby is a uk-indian 'hybrid' apparently (the virus is learning..), so not sure it will be granted it's 'epsilon' title, or just plain 'alpha-delta'.

( the 'pi' variant has to come from Wigan...)

[Donny osmond]

Certainly good for ye Deltoids..

Teachers finally step in after all the name-calling in the playground:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-57308592

Deltoids... [emoji28][emoji28] very good

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[Donny osmond]

The latest Vietnam jobby is a uk-indian 'hybrid' apparently (the virus is learning..), so not sure it will be granted it's 'epsilon' title, or just plain 'alpha-delta'.

( the 'pi' variant has to come from Wigan...)

Even better!! [emoji106][emoji106]

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[Galfon]

'A cruise ship carrying only UK passengers on a tour of the British Isles has been barred from docking in Greenock with just days’ notice, travel agents have said' ('scotsman')
Passengers booked to join the cruise in Greenock may now have to travel by road to Liverpool instead, apparently..
Nowt wrong with reacting to rising cases in the UK, but aligning restrictions where possible would surely help matters.
(That MSC Virtuosa looks a stonker of a ship - real shame for those affected )

[morepork]

'A cruise ship carrying only UK passengers on a tour of the British Isles has been barred from docking in Greenock with just days’ notice, travel agents have said' ('scotsman')
Passengers booked to join the cruise in Greenock may now have to travel by road to Liverpool instead, apparently..
Nowt wrong with reacting to rising cases in the UK, but aligning restrictions where possible would surely help matters.
(That MSC Virtuosa looks a stonker of a ship - real shame for those affected )

What manner of fuck trumpet would be looking to go on one of those floating incubators?

[Galfon]

What manner of fuck trumpet would be looking to go on one of those floating incubators?

Uk types, mingling with the same, breathing uk air floating on uk waters visiting uk ports. eating uk sausages, drinking yorkshire tea and eating finest curry, safe in the knowledge that we have already reached those sunny uplands..
but what's that still coming over the hill ?

[Digby]

What manner of fuck trumpet would be looking to go on one of those floating incubators?

Uk types, mingling with the same, breathing uk air floating on uk waters visiting uk ports. eating uk sausages, drinking yorkshire tea and eating finest curry, safe in the knowledge that we have already reached those sunny uplands..
but what's that still coming over the hill ?

Where are the DGSE when you need them? They're normally good for a sinking or two

[Donny osmond]

'A cruise ship carrying only UK passengers on a tour of the British Isles has been barred from docking in Greenock with just days’ notice, travel agents have said' ('scotsman')
Passengers booked to join the cruise in Greenock may now have to travel by road to Liverpool instead, apparently..
Nowt wrong with reacting to rising cases in the UK, but aligning restrictions where possible would surely help matters.
(That MSC Virtuosa looks a stonker of a ship - real shame for those affected )

Aligning restrictions? There's a fuck off big football watching arena in the centre of Glasgow designed to hold thousands, with zero restrictions. But 22 parents can't go and space themselves around a pitch to watch their kids play football.

If the response to Covid has so far been a fucking joke, it's gone from bad to worse to less funny than a Janey Godley voice over, scarcely conceivable as that might be.

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[Galfon]

Burnham ain't 'appy ..
"So who’s going to enforce it then? Are @policescotland being sent to Manchester? If they are, I think they do need our consent."

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... a-20858760

not sure if double-vaccd / rapid-flow clear walkers from Salford, caught in the Trossachs would get deported or just fined.

[Galfon]

I don't think the majority of parents are quite ready for this type of stuff yet.

https://www.newsweek.com/kids-young-fou ... nt-1618942

[Puja]

I don't think the majority of parents are quite ready for this type of stuff yet.

https://www.newsweek.com/kids-young-fou ... nt-1618942

I don't see what the problem is here. Teachers encouraged not to tell children, "No you're not, don't be so fucking stupid," if they say they're not a girl/boy/whatever this week? The world is surely ending.

Don't even get me started on the requisite quote from a transphobe about "children now being encouraged on a medical pathway" - it's just calling a kid by the name they want to be called by. If something comes of it later and the child turns out to have been trans, you've done a good deed by not traumatising the poor little sod. If the kid's just experimenting and turns out to be cis as the day is long, you've done a good deed by allowing them to do so and encouraging that the grownups will support them in what they want to do. Either way, what's the harm?

Puja

[Which Tyler]

I don't see what the problem is here. Teachers encouraged not to tell children, "No you're not, don't be so fucking stupid," if they say they're not a girl/boy/whatever this week? The world is surely ending.

Don't even get me started on the requisite quote from a transphobe about "children now being encouraged on a medical pathway" - it's just calling a kid by the name they want to be called by. If something comes of it later and the child turns out to have been trans, you've done a good deed by not traumatising the poor little sod. If the kid's just experimenting and turns out to be cis as the day is long, you've done a good deed by allowing them to do so and encouraging that the grownups will support them in what they want to do. Either way, what's the harm?

Bigots' Feelings Matter!

[Son of Mathonwy]

I don't think the majority of parents are quite ready for this type of stuff yet.

https://www.newsweek.com/kids-young-fou ... nt-1618942

I don't see what the problem is here. Teachers encouraged not to tell children, "No you're not, don't be so fucking stupid," if they say they're not a girl/boy/whatever this week? The world is surely ending.

Don't even get me started on the requisite quote from a transphobe about "children now being encouraged on a medical pathway" - it's just calling a kid by the name they want to be called by. If something comes of it later and the child turns out to have been trans, you've done a good deed by not traumatising the poor little sod. If the kid's just experimenting and turns out to be cis as the day is long, you've done a good deed by allowing them to do so and encouraging that the grownups will support them in what they want to do. Either way, what's the harm?

Puja

This is pretty enlightened, as is the creation of more gender-neutral uniforms. The only issues for me are:

1) The theoretical risk of (for example) boys using these rules to gain access to girls' changing rooms etc. However, assuming boys can't just come in one day and say 'I'm a girl, let me into the girls' showers', ie there would be a process, counselling, etc before the change is made (and similarly before a reverse change), then this would be fine.

2) Safety and competitive issues over kids who are physically male competing with females, which are slightly difficult. Pre-puberty, not a problem, post- it's tricky but that's not news to anyone - IMO for contact sports and competitions, physical males should be segregated from physical females.

[Puja]

I don't think the majority of parents are quite ready for this type of stuff yet.

https://www.newsweek.com/kids-young-fou ... nt-1618942

I don't see what the problem is here. Teachers encouraged not to tell children, "No you're not, don't be so fucking stupid," if they say they're not a girl/boy/whatever this week? The world is surely ending.

Don't even get me started on the requisite quote from a transphobe about "children now being encouraged on a medical pathway" - it's just calling a kid by the name they want to be called by. If something comes of it later and the child turns out to have been trans, you've done a good deed by not traumatising the poor little sod. If the kid's just experimenting and turns out to be cis as the day is long, you've done a good deed by allowing them to do so and encouraging that the grownups will support them in what they want to do. Either way, what's the harm?

Puja

This is pretty enlightened, as is the creation of more gender-neutral uniforms. The only issues for me are:

1) The theoretical risk of (for example) boys using these rules to gain access to girls' changing rooms etc. However, assuming boys can't just come in one day and say 'I'm a girl, let me into the girls' showers', ie there would be a process, counselling, etc before the change is made (and similarly before a reverse change), then this would be fine.

2) Safety and competitive issues over kids who are physically male competing with females, which are slightly difficult. Pre-puberty, not a problem, post- it's tricky but that's not news to anyone - IMO for contact sports and competitions, physical males should be segregated from physical females.

I'd generally agree on that, with the caveat that "physical male" for sporting competition isn't defined just by the presence of a penis - someone on hormones and actively transitioning is very different to someone who is just socially transitioning.

Mind, saw this picture the other day which is a valuable reminder that there's a looooot of variation between cis rugby players of the same gender, probably more than between the average male and average female.

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They're both international rugby players!

Puja