Cricket fred

[Banquo]

woakes and stokes getting tonked again

[Banquo]

ugly watch this. We are not 'in a good place'

[Galfon]

woakes and stokes getting tonked again

Woakes can be a choccy teapot on dry tracks like this - not new that.Burns gets eaten for breakfast by Starc again - one down.
He will have fond memories of this tour.

[Banquo]

woakes and stokes getting tonked again

Woakes can be a choccy teapot on dry tracks like this - not new that.Burns gets eaten for breakfast by Starc again - one down.
He will have fond memories of this tour.

wonder why woakes was picked ahead of wood on this track tbh- his record abroad isn't good.

[Galfon]

ffs - 'this Test cricket is a piece of cake..' (A Ozman). 2 gone aleady.

[Galfon]

Losing 4 for under 20 runs since lunch in these conditions is not good; 100 or so to avoid the follow on unlikely unless Sto-akes get a rush of blood..
5 of the top 7 failed to get double figures.

[fivepointer]

On a good wicket with Oz missing their best 2 bowlers.

This England side has all the resilience of a wet cardboard box.

[Banquo]

a few look like they don't want to be there. Buttler has had an utter stinker, and maybe its time to move on from him in red ball cricket.

Poor tactics and selection,lacking quality batsmen and drifting with our bowling. Fielding and attitude....no excuse.

Woakes gone- 203-7 . Unlikely to make many more with our tail, though Robinson will at least fight.

...or not. The pitch is a bit of a bunsen now, to add to the issues. Innings defeat I'd say.....

[Galfon]

Sh!t or bust now for Stokes..shouldn't be long now either way
(new ball or nay). Oops.
Wonder if JR can still see his team getting on top.

[Banquo]

Sh!t or bust now for Stokes..shouldn't be long now either way
(new ball or nay). Oops.
Wonder if JR can still see his team getting on top.

abysmal really.

[Galfon]

A Starc reminder of how bereft we are of art of Test batting.
(JR excepted).The leader-ship question has long sailed, but there doesn't seem much grit in there.

[Banquo]

A Starc reminder of how bereft we are of art of Test batting.
(JR excepted).The leader-ship question has long sailed, but there doesn't seem much grit in there.

Broad and Anderson had the joint third highest partnership.

Surprised not to be following on under lights.

[WaspInWales]

I'm not even remotely surprised by England's batting collapses any more. I expect at least one in every test and my expectations are usually exceeded by another one.

I've given up trying to work out if it's a psychological failing or down to ability, but it sometimes looks like we play every game with a bunch of average cricketers. We've been saved a few times by heroic individual efforts and some outstanding bowling and fielding and that looks like it will be our only chance of nicking a draw to avoid another whitewash. That said, our bowling and fielding haven't looked too great in recent weeks.

The Aussies look like they have been practising for the series. I've no idea why our players couldn't do the same.

I don't get the outrage from the pundits. Agnew reckons this collapse is unacceptable. Why would he expect anything different?

It doesn't seem to matter if we're playing against seem, swing or spin bowling at times. Even playing at home (aware this Ashes series is in Oz) seems to be a disadvantage to us at times.

[Galfon]

The spin-twins get to work..just may push Smith to declare and have a pop at the Eng top-order.

[Galfon]

Over 460 to win, 1 day(+) left, down to last 4 'batsmen' already...beeb indicate win is 'improbable' and they are not wrong there.

[Banquo]

FFS. we lose every single critical moment.

[Galfon]

FFS. we lose every single critical moment.

You could change 'single moment' to 'test match in australia'..
Another real thumping, hopefully there can be some more fight
at the MCG next week. (crackers or puddings ?..)

[fivepointer]

Expect more changes to the bowling attack as our batsmen again fail to post a decent 1st innings total.

[Mellsblue]

[Puja]

Expect more changes to the bowling attack as our batsmen again fail to post a decent 1st innings total.

What would be the point in changing the batting though? It's either sticking with this lineup, who are mostly not good enough for top level Test cricket, or we bring in these other people who are slightly worse. Root and Stokes aside, we don't have good enough players; that's just what the situation is at the moment. At least with the bowlers we've got options and can replace quality with quality to change how we want to defend our tiny totals.

Puja

[Banquo]

Expect more changes to the bowling attack as our batsmen again fail to post a decent 1st innings total.

lol. Quite. Poor bowlers- well, Robinson, Broad, Anderson and Wood- even when they create chances they are shelled. Can't try much harder than Jimmy- even if not as threatening, utterly miserly and 100%.

[Banquo]

Expect more changes to the bowling attack as our batsmen again fail to post a decent 1st innings total.

What would be the point in changing the batting though? It's either sticking with this lineup, who are mostly not good enough for top level Test cricket, or we bring in these other people who are slightly worse. Root and Stokes aside, we don't have good enough players; that's just what the situation is at the moment. At least with the bowlers we've got options and can replace quality with quality to change how we want to defend our tiny totals.

Puja

well yes, but I think the point is well aimed as a rueful grimace, given they've actually picked the same batsmen but picked the wrong attack twice.

[fivepointer]

Even the best attack in world cricket would struggle if the batsmen dont score enough runs.

You cant be competitive when you cant even make 300 on a perfectly good batting wicket in your 1st innings.

We're not really giving the Aussies much of a game and frankly i dont seeing us doing much better in the remaining 3 tests.

[Banquo]

Lol. Pick leach on a green top, get put in and throw away wickets.

[Galfon]

Groundhog day - always a good pick for festive season watch.