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If it makes everyone feel better, I had spare money about 6 weeks or so ago and had the choice of investing in Genge or Montoya. I chose Genge and have been unable to rectify this since.

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The surprising thing with Montoya is that he’s still so affordable.

For £270k, he’s well worth it.
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Montoya's been the best value player in the game. Had a choice at the start of the season between him and Simmonds and figured o might as well gamble as everyone else would go for the latter. Pretty pleased with it, though the opportunity cost of an alternative hooker Iis higher than another 8.

Personally I prefer not to put money into props. Their scoring seems as random as a 6N scrum penalty decision.
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I actually had McGuigan early doors and he's been a good points scorer as well but there was a bye week and I ended up with cash and a need for a hooker so Montoya came in and most weeks the two hookers score good points.

Agree on props, they are frustrating scorers. Hard to predict when they are going to do well for you. Maybe an area I experiment with if I have a kindly bye week though.

So far my two Sarries players have both knocked on 5m out instead of scoring.
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There are only a handful of Props who score reliably. It’s worth investing in the good ones, even if they are expensive. Otherwise, there’s not many who are consistent enough to be worth spending much on.
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Scrumhead wrote:There are only a handful of Props who score reliably. It’s worth investing in the good ones, even if they are expensive. Otherwise, there’s not many who are consistent enough to be worth spending much on.
Genge used to be one of them, which was why I invested. He's gone shit this season though.

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Well 397 was enough to get me through the second round of the cup. Not sure how that happened.
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Ah see 430 didn't get me through
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Puja wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:There are only a handful of Props who score reliably. It’s worth investing in the good ones, even if they are expensive. Otherwise, there’s not many who are consistent enough to be worth spending much on.
Genge used to be one of them, which was why I invested. He's gone shit this season though.

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How so? He’s got 299 points from 10 games so is averaging 30 points per game. Few players scoring that well on the game full stop, let alone props. Mako current has 389 points but from 13 games so is essentially averaging the same as Genge. Hoskins is the only other prop who has scored over 300, but he’s played 14 games and is only averaging 22 points per game (still good for a prop mind you).

The issue with most other props is consistency - take Hepburn for example - he’s expensive but it feels like he’s equally likely to score 30 or 10 points with no obvious indication of which it’s going to be. If you pick him, he averages 20 points per week, but you have to pick him every week in order for the odd high score to balance out the poor ones.
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I suspect Puja might have been unlucky and purchased Genge at the wrong time. Price high and just before a couple of more average games? Disappearing to the 6N doesn't help.
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Montoya has been a real standout consistently. But I think my highest scoring player has been Freddie Clarke. And if his rising amount is anything to go by he is still good value too given how many people are clearly buying him for their squads.

The rest of the squad, mind.....

I had held on to Ford but he is soon going to be worth less than what I paid for him. If you have money in the bank I think there might be an opportunity to buy back some internationals that have been unloaded en masse by people like me looking to raise funds just to get a team out
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Yeah, FKAS has got it right. Bought him after the AIs and he's scored nothing higher than a 22 for me before going off to England. I think he scored very well early season.

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Puja wrote:Yeah, FKAS has got it right. Bought him after the AIs and he's scored nothing higher than a 22 for me before going off to England. I think he scored very well early season.

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You missed the two 50+ point ganes then that skew his average upwards? Really we should remove outlier scores, but who has the time?

Hoskins is an odd one. It's only this season that he's become first choice. Last season he was usually the bench option, the proceeded to score ridiculously well. Goodrick-Clarke has been a great value pick up for me though.
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switchskier wrote:
Puja wrote:Yeah, FKAS has got it right. Bought him after the AIs and he's scored nothing higher than a 22 for me before going off to England. I think he scored very well early season.

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You missed the two 50+ point ganes then that skew his average upwards? Really we should remove outlier scores, but who has the time?

Hoskins is an odd one. It's only this season that he's become first choice. Last season he was usually the bench option, the proceeded to score ridiculously well. Goodrick-Clarke has been a great value pick up for me though.
Yeah I've been looking at prop options, Goodrick-Clark does score well but thought it left me a little reliant on LI. Might have to see if I can spare some cash up for one of the Sarries guys.
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Every year when I'm first picking a squad, I look at MakoV and think, "Nah, too expensive," and every year, I'm proven wrong.

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Puja wrote:Every year when I'm first picking a squad, I look at MakoV and think, "Nah, too expensive," and every year, I'm proven wrong.

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:lol: my first year of playing but I 100% did that.

Koch probably a more likely purchase than Mako given their costs.
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switchskier wrote:
Puja wrote:Yeah, FKAS has got it right. Bought him after the AIs and he's scored nothing higher than a 22 for me before going off to England. I think he scored very well early season.

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You missed the two 50+ point ganes then that skew his average upwards? Really we should remove outlier scores, but who has the time?

Hoskins is an odd one. It's only this season that he's become first choice. Last season he was usually the bench option, the proceeded to score ridiculously well. Goodrick-Clarke has been a great value pick up for me though.
On Genge, the simple way to look at it is that 20 points is usually the average score for all players across a round (it would be less just for props). He’s had 2/10 rounds where he scored under 20 but has had 5 rounds where he’s scored 39+ (basically twice the average). That makes him worth the investment IMO.

Consistency is massive and I look for the players that score well almost every week. They don’t have to be stellar scores, but a solid 25+ per week player is good dust. Generally, though, signing a player at the right time can be massive in this game. For example, Joe Batley had a hot streak where he was scoring really well (and average of 47pts per round) but now he’s dropped back to a normal, just below average level. If you signed him at the right time and ditched him when his score dropped, it would have been a very astute bit of business, but most people only bit on the third high score, which actually turned out to be the last for now (he may have another purple patch). A few gems like that signed at the right time can make a huge difference.
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Choice should be a good thing but I’ve got so many 50:50s this round that I’m almost guaranteed to get the majority wrong!
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Can anyone explain how I might have 24 points already but don't have a single player from Bristol or Worcester? When I click on Game week Live it says I have 24 but none of my players are showing any?? Not that I'm complaining, but maybe missing something in the scoring system I should take better advantage of!
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Magic_sponge wrote:Can anyone explain how I might have 24 points already but don't have a single player from Bristol or Worcester? When I click on Game week Live it says I have 24 but none of my players are showing any?? Not that I'm complaining, but maybe missing something in the scoring system I should take better advantage of!
1 point for all of your starters playing at least 1 minute and double points for your captain.

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Puja wrote:
Magic_sponge wrote:Can anyone explain how I might have 24 points already but don't have a single player from Bristol or Worcester? When I click on Game week Live it says I have 24 but none of my players are showing any?? Not that I'm complaining, but maybe missing something in the scoring system I should take better advantage of!
1 point for all of your starters playing at least 1 minute and double points for your captain.

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:roll: thanks, probably should have figured that one out. Bold of them to assume they'll all make one minute!
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I think all players get one just for being in a squad?

Another tricky week this week. The bye week and rotation have really hindered me. My squad has bloated with a bunch of low-cost, occasional high performers, but apart from a couple of players I picked up early though luck I am struggling for high performers.
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Yeah, selection for this week has screwed me too. Made the decision to go for two expensive and high-scoring players that I've been after for a while, rather than buy 4-5 cheaper ones that would enable me to have more green on my bench. We'll see how that plays out...

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Apart from the starting props (both grey dots) I have a green starting team at least. A couple of red or yellow dots on the bench though. Somehow I scraped through the third round of the cup last week against a much higher scoring team (with me producing my best round of the season so far with 511 points).
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Shiny wrote:Apart from the starting props (both grey dots) I have a green starting team at least. A couple of red or yellow dots on the bench though. Somehow I scraped through the third round of the cup last week against a much higher scoring team (with me producing my best round of the season so far with 511 points).
Yeesh - 511 points would've taken care of me handily! Good week.

I'm still in the cup, although I might need a bit of luck this week. Anyone who has Montoya, be aware that I've not only finally signed him, but also made him captain, so he's due to get injured in the first minute.

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