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Mikey Brown
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by Mikey Brown » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:24 am
Oakboy wrote: A comment in the DT this morning suggests that Itoje and Lawes are absolutely knackered and way off top effectiveness. If that is so, it could explain a lot.
A comment from who? Some analysis of how they’ve been playing or someone directly in the know?
Lawes’s only rest has been through injury hasn’t it? If Jones finds that several of his Lions players are absolutely shagged for the next few England campaigns I don’t think he has anyone else to blame.
Banquo
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by Banquo » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:46 am
Will Joseph on bench as Willis is out.
Fraser will be gutted he is hurt.
Beasties
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by Beasties » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:48 am
Banquo wrote: Will Joseph on bench as Willis is out.
Fraser will be gutted he is hurt.
Oh FFS. Any idea why he’s out?
Banquo
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by Banquo » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:49 am
Ribs apparently
Mikey Brown
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by Mikey Brown » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:01 am
Banquo wrote: Will Joseph on bench as Willis is out
Ah yes. The obvious choice.
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by Mellsblue » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:05 am
Peak Eddie.
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by p/d » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:19 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Banquo wrote: Will Joseph on bench as Willis is out
Ah yes. The obvious choice.
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by Puja » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:19 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Banquo wrote: Will Joseph on bench as Willis is out
Ah yes. The obvious choice.
He's still covering flanker.
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Mikey Brown
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by Mikey Brown » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:22 am
Yep. 90 seconds at flanker to assess whether he’s got the versatility for test rugby or some bullshit.
Where is Isiekwe in the England pecking order? He must be incredibly confused.
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by Puja » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:26 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Yep. 90 seconds at flanker to assess whether he’s got the versatility for test rugby or some bullshit.
Where is Isiekwe in the England pecking order? He must be incredibly confused.
More to the point, where the hell is Marchant?!
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Mikey Brown
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by Mikey Brown » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:38 am
Too big a hit to the ego to bring Marchant back in after the criticism/questioning over dropping him. Suddenly this tour is about unearthing new, young talents again.
Read some quotes from Lawes talking about results being nice, but really we're rebuilding and trying new things. I would have loved to hear that in 2020 but I don't get why we're in this position a year out from the world cup. Really just down to RWC seedings?
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by p/d » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:39 am
Good to see Ireland, against the odds, beat 14
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by Oakboy » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:54 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Oakboy wrote: A comment in the DT this morning suggests that Itoje and Lawes are absolutely knackered and way off top effectiveness. If that is so, it could explain a lot.
A comment from who? Some analysis of how they’ve been playing or someone directly in the know?
Lawes’s only rest has been through injury hasn’t it? If Jones finds that several of his Lions players are absolutely shagged for the next few England campaigns I don’t think he has anyone else to blame.
The comment was actually in a reader's letter referring to Danield Schofield's comment to that effect on 4 July. No idea what background information led to his opinion.
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by Raggs » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:01 am
Puja wrote: Mikey Brown wrote: Yep. 90 seconds at flanker to assess whether he’s got the versatility for test rugby or some bullshit.
Where is Isiekwe in the England pecking order? He must be incredibly confused.
More to the point, where the hell is Marchant?!
Puja
For me that does suggest that Marchant has a niggle.
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by chris1850 » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:06 am
God, the warm up act was horrendous
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by p/d » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:08 am
Raggs wrote: Puja wrote: Mikey Brown wrote: Yep. 90 seconds at flanker to assess whether he’s got the versatility for test rugby or some bullshit.
Where is Isiekwe in the England pecking order? He must be incredibly confused.
More to the point, where the hell is Marchant?!
Puja
For me that does suggest that Marchant has a niggle.
Really? If it was I’m sure it would have been reported already
Banquo
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by Banquo » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:14 am
Much better- straighter and simpler. Stop kicking poorly tho
Nice start from Tommy and JVP
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by Mellsblue » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:14 am
Great hands (and hip) from Freeman.
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by Banquo » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:15 am
Top start that is.
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by FKAS » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:17 am
Mellsblue wrote: Great hands (and hip) from Freeman.
Really glad he's getting a chance, he's a classy operator.
Great start from England. Genge going through Hooper and then that nice rolling maul set play.
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by Banquo » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:18 am
Good from Freddie
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by Banquo » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:20 am
Billy going well again. Loving the more direct work
I’d have gone touch line again
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by Banquo » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:24 am
Again touchline for me but fair enough
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by Mellsblue » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:25 am
Tongan Flaw
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by Banquo » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:26 am
Superb kicks from jvp