FOSTER WATCH 2K22! WILL HE STAY OR WILL HE GO!

[Cameo]

Because he's shit and not up to the task, and the longer he clings on to dear life, the more it tarnishes the team. If he had any integrity and respect for the team he's coaching, he'd have fucked off at the end of the series against Ireland.

That's where I think it gets weirdly personal. He may well be deluded in thinking he is still the best man for the job, but I've not seen anything suggested any lack of integrity - exactly the opposite really. He didn't decide to appoint himself and he's not well placed to realise it's time to go.

Anyway, I think we are agreed. It is time for them to replace him. I think there is plenty potential in this squad (albeit the competition is too strong for them to become dominant again any time soon) and Robertson will be licking his lips.

He said that the team suffering a record defeat in South Africa was both "their best performance this year," and "their most improved performance." I'll let that speak for itself.

Lomax broke the land speed record for fastest scrum collapse (seemed OK after that)

How Lomax keeps getting selected is one of the great mysteries. He brings fuck-all to the game.

Most improved? Yeah, I'd agree - the Oreland series was all downhill.

Best? Maybe. Not a high bar as the first Ireland test was a bit of an odd one.

[Wallpaperman]

As for NZ, I don't think they are terrible, they just seem a bit undercoached to me and to rely on individuals having moments. I think it is time for Foster to go but I don't really see why he has to resign. NZRU should sack him if they don't think he's up to it, he clearly thinks he is at the moment. Until that changes why resign? It'd be different if he had done something unethical or had lost the support of the players but there is no real suggestion of that.

Because he's shit and not up to the task, and the longer he clings on to dear life, the more it tarnishes the team. If he had any integrity and respect for the team he's coaching, he'd have fucked off at the end of the series against Ireland.

That's where I think it gets weirdly personal. He may well be deluded in thinking he is still the best man for the job, but I've not seen anything suggested any lack of integrity - exactly the opposite really. He didn't decide to appoint himself and he's not well placed to realise it's time to go.

Anyway, I think we are agreed. It is time for them to replace him. I think there is plenty potential in this squad (albeit the competition is too strong for them to become dominant again any time soon) and Robertson will be licking his lips.

What are the odds on Pivac replacing Foster if he goes ?

[Cameo]

Because he's shit and not up to the task, and the longer he clings on to dear life, the more it tarnishes the team. If he had any integrity and respect for the team he's coaching, he'd have fucked off at the end of the series against Ireland.

That's where I think it gets weirdly personal. He may well be deluded in thinking he is still the best man for the job, but I've not seen anything suggested any lack of integrity - exactly the opposite really. He didn't decide to appoint himself and he's not well placed to realise it's time to go.

Anyway, I think we are agreed. It is time for them to replace him. I think there is plenty potential in this squad (albeit the competition is too strong for them to become dominant again any time soon) and Robertson will be licking his lips.

What are the odds on Pivac replacing Foster if he goes ?

I think there would be an uproar if it is anyone other than Scott Robertson. He may well already have been lined up for when they get back from South Africa.

Pivac's experience in Wales will stand him in good stead in future (especially if they get more consistent) but not heard him talked about as a candidate.

[zer0]

That's where I think it gets weirdly personal. He may well be deluded in thinking he is still the best man for the job, but I've not seen anything suggested any lack of integrity - exactly the opposite really. He didn't decide to appoint himself and he's not well placed to realise it's time to go.

Describing SR-Tarzan-test-rugby-Jane/big man Frizzell's assault on two people followed up with aggressive + threatening messages as "interruptions" and "distractions" while recalling him to the national team eliminated any claims of being a good cunt for mine.

[J Dory]

New Zealand: 15 Jordie Barrett, 14 Will Jordan, 13 Rieko Ioane, 12 David Havili, 11 Caleb Clarke, 10 Richie Mo’unga, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Ardie Savea, 7 Sam Cane (c), 6 Shannon Frizell, 5 Scott Barrett, 4 Sam Whitelock, 3 Tyrel Lomax, 2 Samisoni Taukei’aho, 1 Ethan de Groot
Replacements: 16 Codie Taylor, 17 George Bower, 18 Fletcher Newell, 19 Tupou Vaa’i, 20 Akira Ioane, 21 Finlay Christie, 22 Beauden Barrett, 23 Quinn Tupaea

[morepork]

Sam Cane. Again.

[Eugene Wrayburn]

Could you feckers please win? You're killing my buzz from the series win.

[Banquo]

great try that

[Banquo]

ferocious fast game- lots of breaks from inzid- Am moving to wing has weakened the defence.

[Banquo]

....but he then runs through clark. soft try from a soft lineout

[Banquo]

10 gifted points in the last 5. coach killers

[Banquo]

epic victory. great game to cheer eugene up.

[Spiffy]

Great game. The Boks threw it away by needless and inaccurate box kicking that just handed the ball back to NZ and allowed their effective counter attack. Daft tactics late in the game.

[Banquo]

Great game. The Boks threw it away by needless and inaccurate box kicking that just handed the ball back to NZ and allowed their effective counter attack. Daft tactics late in the game.

Both sides showed some poor decision making, but it was a great watch. Savea was immense, and Ioane was such a dangerous runner. Although Am ran well- very well- on the wing, as above, their midfield defence was poorer for the shuffle. They moved three positions for one injury, and highlighted one issue with a 6:2 bench. But fair play to the kiwis- at 23-21 and Barrett B carded, it looked all over- great comeback try.

As an aside, the SA backs have a lot to offer, and should (be allowed to) offer it more.

[zer0]

It's nice that we didn't have to plunge the depths of anything like 57-0, but Foster can still jog on.

EDIT: Put another way, 1/4th of Robertson's coaching setup has managed to do a good job of plugging the leaks in his area of expertise after a few weeks. So we can imagine what the full setup might do with a years worth of effort. Sure it may not be RWC winning off that short leadup time, but I think it would be safe to say it would definitely be better that what we've seen since 2020.

[zer0]

Nothing happened. He just kicked the can down the road with an announcement of an announcement at an announcement PR bullshittery.

[Cameo]

It's a hard one to read. Foster certainly doesn't sound like he has been told he's going, and won't quit after that. I suspect they are getting rid though as otherwise surely they would have been more categorical in backing him.

The players are apparently behind Foster (in a 'he's a good coach and ihe doesn't deserve the abuse' kind of way) so NZRU won't be helping themselves by stringing it out.

[Cameo]

Oh, and what a game! Great play, mistakes, unbelievable tries...

Am must be one of the best players in the world right now too.

[J Dory]

It was a great game, got to love the drama that comes with a SA NZ test match. I agree Foster should probably go, and going on the back of a win at Ellis Park is just about the best exit he could have hoped for. Want to give a shout out to David Havili, his combination with Mo'unga was huge. Argies spank Aus, roll on Aug. 27, the championship is shaping up nicely.

[Cameo]

He's staying.

Watching that press conference, it was so striking what a mess they have made of it. If they back their man, fine, but their briefings have definitely contributed to everyone thinking he's done.

For the sake of everyone, I hope it is now put to bed until after the World Cup.

[morepork]

Amateur hour. What a joke.

[J Dory]

New Zealand: 15 Jordie Barrett, 14 Will Jordan, 13 Rieko Ioane, 12 David Havili, 11 Caleb Clarke, 10 Richie Mo’unga, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Ardie Savea, 7 Sam Cane (c), 6 Shannon Frizell, 5 Scott Barrett, 4 Sam Whitelock, 3 Tyrel Lomax, 2 Samisoni Taukei’aho, 1 Ethan de Groot
Replacements: 16 Codie Taylor, 17 George Bower, 18 Fletcher Newell, 19 Tupou Vaa’i, 20 Akira Ioane, 21 Finlay Christie, 22 Stephen Perofeta, 23 Quinn Tupaea

[Banquo]

rogered at the breakdown so far, pumas physical and smart. Also wrong side of a poor ref

[paddy no 11]

Brilliant new tactic from nz of turning down easy 3 pointers and going for kicks from 58M

[Banquo]

pumas 19-3 up in the last 40 mins