Scots Abroad VIII (or let's spot the new messiah)
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Harris put in an incredibly Chris Harris performance today winning MOTM as Gloucester smashed Bath 64-0, making some great contributions while generally looking like the most clumsy player on the field.
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Just watcing Wasps v LI. Would certainly give Rowe his chance in the summer
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And Henry Arundell surelyCroft_No.5 wrote:Just watcing Wasps v LI. Would certainly give Rowe his chance in the summer

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As they said in commentary he will be getting calls from England, Wales and Scotland, is he Irish qualified?
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That Mikey boy is an incredibly accurate summary. He was excellent in a Harris way. Everything done well except being clean through and caught by Falatou who looked most of the game if be wouldn't run to catch a busMikey Brown wrote:Harris put in an incredibly Chris Harris performance today winning MOTM as Gloucester smashed Bath 64-0, making some great contributions while generally looking like the most clumsy player on the field.
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Mikey Brown wrote:Hutchinson seems to have settled in to the 12 role a bit more. Yeah he's not the best defender but he offers so much of what we're lacking in midfield, (particularly if he were to partner Harris) pace, vision, soft hands, a sidestep. He's such a natural link-man. With Redpath still out I think we just need to give him a full pre-season and hope he can put this last year or so behind him.
Jones has been great for Quins at fullback in the last few weeks, will be great to see him and Ollie Smith vying for the 15 shirt in the summer if Hogg is rested.
Jones has had 4 excellent games in row at full back. Young Smith still a bIt raw but has to have a chance sometime.
But if we could convince Arundell.....,.......he reminds me of a young Hogg, but the quicker. Much quicker. He is a a real and rare talent
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Not Irish apparently, but he is qualified for Cyprus, who I think have to be the early favourites for his services.Croft_No.5 wrote:As they said in commentary he will be getting calls from England, Wales and Scotland, is he Irish qualified?
I'll be fuming if your lot lure Arundell away. He does look to be absolutely the real deal.
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[Sarcasm] I mean you have stolen scots born Roebuck for you age grade teams, Arundell is suitable compensation.[/Sarcasm]Puja wrote:Not Irish apparently, but he is qualified for Cyprus, who I think have to be the early favourites for his services.Croft_No.5 wrote:As they said in commentary he will be getting calls from England, Wales and Scotland, is he Irish qualified?
I'll be fuming if your lot lure Arundell away. He does look to be absolutely the real deal.
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Puja wrote:Not Irish apparently, but he is qualified for Cyprus, who I think have to be the early favourites for his services.Croft_No.5 wrote:As they said in commentary he will be getting calls from England, Wales and Scotland, is he Irish qualified?
I'll be fuming if your lot lure Arundell away. He does look to be absolutely the real deal.
Puja
I'd love for you to fume LOL
He looked so good at age group, recent showings for LI even better, more than just proper serious gas.
He looks like Hogg at the same age. Special
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There was an interview with Russell in the Times this weekend. I've got to agree that there's no value in taking him to Argentina this summer. Let Kinghorn prove himself a viable backup and give Thompson some more time.
Thought that he played well in the second half yesterday, having been pretty heavily targeted by Sale (who are just such an awful team to watch). The football skills were nice but I generally thought that he mixed it up well and kept them guessing.
Thought that he played well in the second half yesterday, having been pretty heavily targeted by Sale (who are just such an awful team to watch). The football skills were nice but I generally thought that he mixed it up well and kept them guessing.
Behind the smile, Finn Russell has been struggling. After spending close to an hour in his company, at the Racing 92 training ground south of Paris, it is clear that the Scotland fly half has been burnt out by a relentless schedule since last summer’s British & Irish Lions tour.
He is still relaxed in Paris, and more refreshed now, having managed to take a short break before Racing 92 host Sale Sharks in the Heineken Champions Cup quarter-final tomorrow. But Russell, 29, has felt a great weight upon him.
He is determined to remain true to himself and his style, but all the rugby, all the pressure has made him feel unable to perform consistently. He has started questioning his instincts during matches, concerned about being “slammed” for his natural exuberance. That does not sound like the Russell we think we know.
“I’ve just been slightly drained this year,” he says before his 28th match of the season. “It’s that mental side rather than physically. I’ve had maybe five days holiday this year. It’s not much at all. This season there have been a few things that have run into each other, which probably caught up with me. I’ve never really got back into properly good form.”
Many find the season after British & Irish Lions tours tough. Russell has avoided injury — unlike Alun Wyn Jones, Ken Owens, Luke Cowan-Dickie, Mako Vunipola, Jonny Hill, Taulupe Faletau, Josh Navidi, Sam Simmonds, Justin Tipuric, Owen Farrell, and Anthony Watson — but his workload since South Africa has taken its toll.
Catching Covid, and the pandemic forcing a restructure of the fixture list, scuppered more time off and his five-day break was his first since September last year. He skipped Racing’s Top 14 match against Biarritz on April 23, jetting to Dubai with his girlfriend, the Scottish heptathlete Emma Canning.
Stepping off the treadmill and on to the beach, Russell was finally able to stop his whirring mind and move on from a disappointing end to the Six Nations with Scotland, who finished fourth. Their campaign was also dogged by controversy when Russell was dropped for the Ireland game as punishment for attending an unsanctioned night out in Edinburgh after the win against Italy.
The fly half has helped Racing 92, his French club side, reach the Champions Cup quarter-finals
The fly half has helped Racing 92, his French club side, reach the Champions Cup quarter-finals
“Going away was probably the best thing for it,” Russell says. “I don’t mind the amount of games. It’s more the mental side, constructing a game plan all week, day off, then do it all again. Doing that 15 games in a row can be tough.
“It’s probably had an effect on how my season has been. It’s been a little bit up and down. I’ll put a bit of pressure on myself as it’s my job to drive the team.”
That’s where the crux of all this lies. Russell is the focal point — for adulation and abuse. He may seem totally carefree, but the opposite is true; to the point where on field he now second-guesses himself when eyeing up one of his wonder-plays.
“I think, ‘What’s the point, if it doesn’t come off I’m just going to get slammed in the media and it’s going to be my fault,’ ” he says. “If I don’t put it on the money, and if we don’t score off it, pretty much, then it’ll be, ‘That’s one of Finn’s one-out-of-tens that come off’ and if it does it’ll be ‘That’s the brilliance of Finn’.
“It’s not just the media, it’s the fans and everything. It’s something over time [I’ve developed]. If something doesn’t come off, all of sudden you’re a risk-taker, a this, a that. Do people actually understand what you’re trying, or what you’ve seen?
Scotland endured a disappointing Six Nations Championship, finishing fourth
“It’s one thing Vern [Cotter] used to say as Scotland coach: ‘I don’t care what you try as long as you have a reason behind it.’ That’s how I play.
“Last weekend, I tried a half cross-field kick and their boy ended up catching it. It was 30 centimetres off us scoring. The reason behind it was good, it was just my execution.
“You can’t really win. When you’re good you get all the praise, and when a couple of things don’t come off the blame falls.”
Scotland’s head coach Gregor Townsend has advised Russell to stay off social media — but even if he does, friends and family send him the criticisms.
Russell hates being labelled as a risk-taker. He cites the moment he unlocked Saracens in 2020’s Heineken Champions Cup semi-final — when he chipped over their defence late on in Paris for the centre Virimi Vakatawa, who found Juan Imhoff for the winning try. Risky? Sure. Calculated? Definitely. Vakatawa called it, Russell, the hero, executed. Racing won 19-15. He then threw two intercepts in the final against Exeter Chiefs, and Racing lost 31-27. The villain.
Russell thinks he was born in the wrong era, and if he were 19, not 29, he would be given more slack. “I’m older than Marcus Smith — I use him and Romain Ntamack as examples,” he says. “Ten years ago I was putting chips over the top and it was seen as risky,” he explains.
Russell doesn’t understand why rugby stars are being asked to play more but earn less, via a salary cap
“That’s kind of stuck with me. Maybe if I was ten years later it might been seen as great play. Back then, the way the game was, it was seen to be risky, putting cross-kicks or miss-passes in. If I now play a game and don’t do that it’s ‘Finn had a quiet game’, or ‘He tries these and only one in every six comes off’.”
Russell hopes coaches’ perspectives are shifting. “If teams actually want to go out and score they’ve got to be willing to allow their players to express themselves,” he says. “There’s more creativity coming in, more teams are starting to play. It shows coaches are playing to win rather than playing to not lose.”
Ending his week off, Russell attended a Scottish Super 6 semi-professional match between Stirling County and Ayrshire Bulls ten minutes from his parents’ house, watching his brother, Harry, a 32-year-old scrum half.
With all he has said, would Russell prefer to play at that lower level away from the spotlight? He did for Ayr in 2016, when returning from a bad head injury. “When I was at Glasgow, four or five years ago, I drove back and it was pouring down with rain,” he remembers. “One of the lads threw a big lump of mud that stuck to my windshield. I looked at training and thought ‘I don’t think I could ever come back to this.’
“The only way I’d go back is if my two brothers were playing. It might be a bit of fun at the end.”
Townsend was at Bridgehaugh too. He and Russell exchanged a nod, a brief hello, and that was it.
The fly half has not spoken properly to his boss since being dropped for the Ireland match. He was out with best friend Ali Price, captain Stuart Hogg, wing Darcy Graham and centres Sam Johnson and Sione Tuipulotu, celebrating Price winning his 50th cap.
Russell has spent four years in France, having joined Racing from Glasgow in 2018, and says he wants to sign a new deal
Russell, largely, carried the can. He was benched and Blair Kinghorn wore No 10 in Dublin. He turns bashful when the incident is brought up, shuffling in his chair a little.
“I hadn’t probably been playing at my best, and Blair had been playing well for Edinburgh,” he says. “There’s maybe a bit of a punishment as well as trying Blair in a high-level game — give him a start, let him control the game. He did a great job.”
On the surface Russell looked bang to rights. As a senior player going out drinking during a tournament without the coaches’ consent — especially having walked out of Scotland’s 2020 Six Nations camp after another disagreement with Townsend over alcohol — it left him open to a hammering.
But could players under intense scrutiny be forgiven for wanting to let off steam with their friends in the midst of an eye-watering schedule?
“I probably did find it quite tough this camp, for various reasons,” he explains — this the fourth championship he spent toing and froing between Scotland and Racing.
“When I go back to Scotland, myself Hoggy, Ali and some other boys probably have more focus on us. When I’m here, because I’m Scottish no one really cares. You get the benefits, reservations at restaurants, but there’s not hassle when you’re in there. You just live a normal life. I was happy to get back.”
Russell does not know how things can improve for top players such as him. He requires no sympathy. He chose to go to France, and is paid handsomely for it, but no light at the end of the tunnel is visible.
The big games, which he loves, keep on coming — with Sale at La Défense Arena on Sunday.
“They’re lowering the salary cap rather than putting it up, so what are they expected to do for players?” Russell asks. “You’re still demanding the same hours and input from the players but for less money. Tell me another job where that’s the case?”
Nevertheless, he wants to stay here, sign another contract, and Emma is coming soon to join him in Paris. That will help.
He loves playing for his country, but looks like a man who needs a full summer off — not to step on the treadmill once again for Scotland in Argentina this July.
“I can’t really complain because it’s my choice to be here,” Russell says. “If I wanted extra time off I could go back home and get it.”
But rugby cannot continue to flog its players like this. “Everything is always good with Finn,” says Racing’s media manager as our interview winds down.
It has not been, but Russell remains chipper. Never fear — he will not become a conformist robot.
“I’m quite chilled, as you probably know,” he says. “Whenever I play, I’ll always be smiling and I’ll try things. If it doesn’t come off, it is what it is. I’m still gonna keep trying it.
“There will still be a smile on my face.”
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Thanks for sharing that - really honest interview and couldn't agree more about giving him the summer off. It does show the trade off of moving abroad too - in Scotland he would have been given a break at some point. Then again, he wouldn't be in the Champions Cup semi.
Racing are not the best of the four remaining teams but I would absolutely love it if they won it. Get a smile on his face before a decent break!
Racing are not the best of the four remaining teams but I would absolutely love it if they won it. Get a smile on his face before a decent break!
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None of the Lions should be touring, except for maybe those who have had injury enforced breaks such as Sutherland. I would leave them all at home.
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Henderson finally back for Leicester on the weekend. There is space for a new generation on second rows if they can make an impact
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Pretty huge error from Hastings at the weekend taking a deep kick into touch. Changed the momentum of the Gabe. Was a pity as everything was neat and tidy until that point.
Even at prem level, Chris Harris is not fast.
Even at prem level, Chris Harris is not fast.
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Bradbury and Redpath start for Bristol and Bath tomorrow night
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With Bayliss at 6Mikey Brown wrote:Bradbury and Redpath start for Bristol and Bath tomorrow night
Gus Warr starts at 9 for Sale
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Redpath is a huge one. Feels he could really change Scotland's midfield but basing it on very little evidence.
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Matt Scott (13), Jonny Gray (5) start with Will Hurd and Cam Henderson on the bench in Leicester v Exeter
Chris Harris (13), Adam Hastings (10), Charlie Chapman (9), Alex Craig (5), Kieran MacDonald (5), Robin Hislop (1) start with Elliot Millar-Mills on the bench in Glos v Pests
Chris Harris (13), Adam Hastings (10), Charlie Chapman (9), Alex Craig (5), Kieran MacDonald (5), Robin Hislop (1) start with Elliot Millar-Mills on the bench in Glos v Pests
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Roebuck played well for Sale from the highlights.
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SHC was on the bench for Benetton in their 33-11 win over Glasgow this evening.
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Just read that Brive are hoping to persuade Richie Gray to leave Glasgow and come back to France.
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Nick Griggs to join Carcassonne and Rob Harley.
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Sounds like Rory Sutherland is moving to Ulster
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No news yet for Murray McCallum