EPS Watch / Player Form Thread

[FKAS]

It would also be a great chance to secure Fin Smith for England as Scotland are bound to be sniffing around.

Could load the bench with Spencer, Farrell, Lawrence as well for both impact and security.

[Puja]

It would also be a great chance to secure Fin Smith for England as Scotland are bound to be sniffing around.

Could load the bench with Spencer, Farrell, Lawrence as well for both impact and security.

Spencer? No, thank you. Good solid Prem player; nothing more.

Puja

[FKAS]

It would also be a great chance to secure Fin Smith for England as Scotland are bound to be sniffing around.

Could load the bench with Spencer, Farrell, Lawrence as well for both impact and security.

Spencer? No, thank you. Good solid Prem player; nothing more.

Puja

Bit harsh. He's got strong basics and could deliver the kicking game preferred by Borthwick.

[Banquo]

It would also be a great chance to secure Fin Smith for England as Scotland are bound to be sniffing around.

Could load the bench with Spencer, Farrell, Lawrence as well for both impact and security.

Spencer? No, thank you. Good solid Prem player; nothing more.

Puja

Bit harsh. He's got strong basics and could deliver the kicking game preferred by Borthwick.

I see he is now just Borthwick to you . Will he favour a kicking game at intl level, given the players he now has available? Always a conundrum for coaches- coach the game you are comfortable, or develop the best game plan (s) for what you have available.....

[Puja]

It would also be a great chance to secure Fin Smith for England as Scotland are bound to be sniffing around.

Could load the bench with Spencer, Farrell, Lawrence as well for both impact and security.

Spencer? No, thank you. Good solid Prem player; nothing more.

Puja

Bit harsh. He's got strong basics and could deliver the kicking game preferred by Borthwick.

I'd disagree with you on the strong basics - his passing often goes to pot and his decision-making is iffy. Like Ben Youngs, but without the 100 caps of experience and nous.

Puja

[Banquo]

Spencer? No, thank you. Good solid Prem player; nothing more.

Puja

Bit harsh. He's got strong basics and could deliver the kicking game preferred by Borthwick.

I'd disagree with you on the strong basics - his passing often goes to pot and his decision-making is iffy. Like Ben Youngs, but without the 100 caps of experience and nous.

Puja

...see Dan Robson.

[FKAS]

Bit harsh. He's got strong basics and could deliver the kicking game preferred by Borthwick.

I'd disagree with you on the strong basics - his passing often goes to pot and his decision-making is iffy. Like Ben Youngs, but without the 100 caps of experience and nous.

Puja

...see Dan Robson.

Nah, Robson was Danny Care with less skill. Spencer is more like Wigglesworth.

[Banquo]

I'd disagree with you on the strong basics - his passing often goes to pot and his decision-making is iffy. Like Ben Youngs, but without the 100 caps of experience and nous.

Puja

...see Dan Robson.

Nah, Robson was Danny Care with less skill. Spencer is more like Wigglesworth.

Both Robson and Spencer struggle with passing, decision making and not many caps....was the point. And Spencer is much more of a breaking runner than Wiggy, and frankly not as good a kicker.

[FKAS]

...see Dan Robson.

Nah, Robson was Danny Care with less skill. Spencer is more like Wigglesworth.

Both Robson and Spencer struggle with passing, decision making and not many caps....was the point. And Spencer is much more of a breaking runner than Wiggy, and frankly not as good a kicker.

Younger Wigglesworth was very good at running. The older he got the less he ran and more he concentrated on his basics. If Spencer stays got for more than five minutes I think he can demonstrate the requisite basics.

[Banquo]

Nah, Robson was Danny Care with less skill. Spencer is more like Wigglesworth.

Both Robson and Spencer struggle with passing, decision making and not many caps....was the point. And Spencer is much more of a breaking runner than Wiggy, and frankly not as good a kicker.

Younger Wigglesworth was very good at running. The older he got the less he ran and more he concentrated on his basics. If Spencer stays got for more than five minutes I think he can demonstrate the requisite basics.

I wouldn't have ever said it was a particularly strong suit. Ben Spencer has had a lot of time to demonstrate he's not quite up to it- 200+ prem appearances.

But anyway, you've strayed off the the original point- neither Robson nor Spencer were quite good enough to get picked a lot at intl level...and both had similar weaknesses to their games.

[Which Tyler]

Cover for Stuart's elbow injury announced:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64129057

[Mr Mwenda]

Cover for Stuart's elbow injury announced:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64129057

So if one could sign specific body parts as injury cover, whose elbow would one sign? A spare saffa's arm perhaps for a prop.

[Which Tyler]

So if one could sign specific body parts as injury cover, whose elbow would one sign? A spare saffa's arm perhaps for a prop.

Right arm? any (right handed) teenage boy

[Banquo]

So if one could sign specific body parts as injury cover, whose elbow would one sign? A spare saffa's arm perhaps for a prop.

Right arm? any (right handed) teenage boy

The rare left handed teenage boy arm would give you an edge (as it were) if you were right handed; someone should have given one to Faz.

[Puja]

So if one could sign specific body parts as injury cover, whose elbow would one sign? A spare saffa's arm perhaps for a prop.

Right arm? any (right handed) teenage boy

The rare left handed teenage boy arm would give you an edge (as it were) if you were right handed; someone should have given one to Faz.

I think Faz has demonstrated that he already has wank hands going in that direction.

Puja

[16th man]

Would be worth checking if Malherbe could part with his left thigh for a bit.

[twitchy]

[FKAS]

All three additions would be logical choices.

[16th man]

Cole makes sense on his current form. The question there being how much of his current form is down to his body not having to do international rugby? And how long can he keep up his current level with that additional demand.

If the answers are not that much, and at least until after the world Cup, then that's a fantastic bit if extra experience to bring in.

[Puja]

Cole makes sense on his current form. The question there being how much of his current form is down to his body not having to do international rugby? And how long can he keep up his current level with that additional demand.

If the answers are not that much, and at least until after the world Cup, then that's a fantastic bit if extra experience to bring in.

I would've said just having Cole in camp added value - can't believe there's nothing he could teach the youngsters.

Puja

[FKAS]

Cole is the temporary fix, particularly whilst Stuart is injured. He should also help set the tone at training. His work rate has hit ridiculous levels for a tighthead in the last couple of seasons, no one is going to want to be the guy being out worked by the 35 year old tighthead.

[Puja]

Cole is the temporary fix, particularly whilst Stuart is injured. He should also help set the tone at training. His work rate has hit ridiculous levels for a tighthead in the last couple of seasons, no one is going to want to be the guy being out worked by the 35 year old tighthead.

Unless you're Nathan Hughes, of course.

Puja

[FKAS]

Cole is the temporary fix, particularly whilst Stuart is injured. He should also help set the tone at training. His work rate has hit ridiculous levels for a tighthead in the last couple of seasons, no one is going to want to be the guy being out worked by the 35 year old tighthead.

Unless you're Nathan Hughes, of course.

Puja

and that was the old Dan Cole before his new fitness regime as well. Hughes the man who said he wanted to represent England because of the match fees not wanting to put the effort in. Who'd have thunk it.

[Banquo]

Who gave Dan his new fitness regime, I wonder?

[FKAS]

Who gave Dan his new fitness regime, I wonder?

I don't know but the Vunipolas have been on the Gregg's fitness regime for a while now.