Cameo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:24 pm
Also, made the mistake of looking at the Offside Line ratings and comments on them. A lot of unfair hate on Zander Fagerson at the moment.
They also have it the other way round on Gray and Gilchrist. Questioning if Gray has the fire anymore and giving Gilchrist a 9!
They are over the top on ZFagerson. He does get involved in needless niggly shit but wasn't too bad after the flare up though.
Yeah, every second post is saying he is a massive penalty machine. Takes someone to point he gave away the same as Nel the week before!
His niggle does sometimes annoy me to be honest, though I suspect half the people complaining about him spend the rest of their time complaining we are "too nice". I sometimes wonder whether ZFagerson's gumshield doesn't help him - makes it look like he is smirking the whole time.
wonder who that was?
a lot of his "niggle" as you put it is down to 2 things.
One is he is the first player to step in if anyone has a go at another of our players. While it can be annoying and get up a ref's nose, I find it difficult to be too critical on that. The other is opponents wind him up by pulling his scrum cap, either over his eyes or off. If ref's did their job this would rarely be an issue but there is rarely a game when he doesn't have to replace it or have it pulled down
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:22 pm
Seen that referenced a few times but must have missed it. How close to half-time, so I can go and find it?
It was just as the clock went to red and tbh it was a howler imho, I feared he was in but tbh he was going to ground as he attempted to catch the ball instead of staying upright to gather then barrowing over.
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:22 pm
Seen that referenced a few times but must have missed it. How close to half-time, so I can go and find it?
It was just as the clock went to red and tbh it was a howler imho, I feared he was in but tbh he was going to ground as he attempted to catch the ball instead of staying upright to gather then barrowing over.
Jones gets an ankle tap causing him to stumble but if Gray doesn't bring him down he's in. He's only 5m from line with no one left. Even if stumbling someone of Cuthberts size and relative speed is ending up over the line there.
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:22 pm
Seen that referenced a few times but must have missed it. How close to half-time, so I can go and find it?
It was just as the clock went to red and tbh it was a howler imho, I feared he was in but tbh he was going to ground as he attempted to catch the ball instead of staying upright to gather then barrowing over.
Jones gets an ankle tap causing him to stumble but if Gray doesn't bring him down he's in. He's only 5m from line with no one left. Even if stumbling someone of Cuthberts size and relative speed is ending up over the line there.
didn't think it was that close to the line but it was a try saving tackle. Big Richie at his best. In his first spell at Glasgow he made loads of similar tackles when the winger thought he's skinned Gray - but got too close, not realising that its a loooooong way round Richie. Almost like having 2 defenders at times
Not managed to find the clip yet, but yeah it's been so great to see Gray prove the doubters (including me) wrong.
Regarding the team selection I'm left with only the same thoughts as last time. Presuming Sutherland, Watson, Darge aren't up to it right now for whatever reason. Maybe Watson will have got back up to speed by the France game, but do we want to disrupt the backrow or do Crosbie/Dempsey deserve to lose their spot?
Gilchrist is an unspectacular player but he's doing his thing right now and the team just seem to work better with him in there. He seems to be quite a valuable leader to this group so Gray/Skinner will have to settle for a bench spot.
White/Horne is working well. Not really seen enough of Horne to be fully tested, but it would seem harsh to drop him at this stage just because the we're facing a tougher opponent.
No idea what's up with Hogg, but if there's any doubt over him then Kinghorn has certainly shown he deserves a spot. Not sure what you'd do with the bench at that point. Rely on Jones as fullback cover and bring in another winger to the bench? I suppose it would be Maitland anyway who can cover 15.
Again I'd love to see Redpath instead of Harris but the security blanket has its appeal.
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:18 am
Not managed to find the clip yet, but yeah it's been so great to see Gray prove the doubters (including me) wrong.
Regarding the team selection I'm left with only the same thoughts as last time. Presuming Sutherland, Watson, Darge aren't up to it right now for whatever reason. Maybe Watson will have got back up to speed by the France game, but do we want to disrupt the backrow or do Crosbie/Dempsey deserve to lose their spot?
Gilchrist is an unspectacular player but he's doing his thing right now and the team just seem to work better with him in there. He seems to be quite a valuable leader to this group so Gray/Skinner will have to settle for a bench spot.
White/Horne is working well. Not really seen enough of Horne to be fully tested, but it would seem harsh to drop him at this stage just because the we're facing a tougher opponent.
No idea what's up with Hogg, but if there's any doubt over him then Kinghorn has certainly shown he deserves a spot. Not sure what you'd do with the bench at that point. Rely on Jones as fullback cover and bring in another winger to the bench? I suppose it would be Maitland anyway who can cover 15.
Again I'd love to see Redpath instead of Harris but the security blanket has its appeal.
It was just as the clock went to red and tbh it was a howler imho, I feared he was in but tbh he was going to ground as he attempted to catch the ball instead of staying upright to gather then barrowing over.
Jones gets an ankle tap causing him to stumble but if Gray doesn't bring him down he's in. He's only 5m from line with no one left. Even if stumbling someone of Cuthberts size and relative speed is ending up over the line there.
didn't think it was that close to the line but it was a try saving tackle. Big Richie at his best. In his first spell at Glasgow he made loads of similar tackles when the winger thought he's skinned Gray - but got too close, not realising that its a loooooong way round Richie. Almost like having 2 defenders at times
First contact was probably 7m out but the ruck at the completion of the tackle is probably 2m out if that. It is a tackle that had to be made.
If Hogg is fit, I think he should start. He looked quite sharp in his few minutes against Wales and he adds so much to our team when on any type of form.
Kinghorn has been very good, which people forget he is capable of. But he's not been flawless either. For me, he hasn't suddenly leaped ahead of Hogg.
I shouldn't keep quoting them on here but the commenters in TOL keep celebrating the abandoning of the Kinghorn at 10 experiment. I am not quite sure where they are getting that from. He has been our backup ten for the first two games. A major advantage of him in that role is that if Russell stays on (which he will if fit), Kinghorn covers wing and full back very well.
Cameo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:20 pm
If Hogg is fit, I think he should start. He looked quite sharp in his few minutes against Wales and he adds so much to our team when on any type of form.
Kinghorn has been very good, which people forget he is capable of. But he's not been flawless either. For me, he hasn't suddenly leaped ahead of Hogg.
I shouldn't keep quoting them on here but the commenters in TOL keep celebrating the abandoning of the Kinghorn at 10 experiment. I am not quite sure where they are getting that from. He has been our backup ten for the first two games. A major advantage of him in that role is that if Russell stays on (which he will if fit), Kinghorn covers wing and full back very well.
Totally on board with all that, just happy that if Hogg isn’t 100% Kinghorn looks full of confidence at the moment.
Cameo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:20 pm
If Hogg is fit, I think he should start. He looked quite sharp in his few minutes against Wales and he adds so much to our team when on any type of form.
Kinghorn has been very good, which people forget he is capable of. But he's not been flawless either. For me, he hasn't suddenly leaped ahead of Hogg.
I shouldn't keep quoting them on here but the commenters in TOL keep celebrating the abandoning of the Kinghorn at 10 experiment. I am not quite sure where they are getting that from. He has been our backup ten for the first two games. A major advantage of him in that role is that if Russell stays on (which he will if fit), Kinghorn covers wing and full back very well.
Totally on board with all that, just happy that if Hogg isn’t 100% Kinghorn looks full of confidence at the moment.
Yeah, it's great. To be fair to him too, throughout his career Kinghorn has generally been pretty good for Scotland. Just never quite good enough to become established as first choice in any one position in the face of some pretty stuff competition.
Cameo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:20 pm
If Hogg is fit, I think he should start. He looked quite sharp in his few minutes against Wales and he adds so much to our team when on any type of form.
Kinghorn has been very good, which people forget he is capable of. But he's not been flawless either. For me, he hasn't suddenly leaped ahead of Hogg.
I shouldn't keep quoting them on here but the commenters in TOL keep celebrating the abandoning of the Kinghorn at 10 experiment. I am not quite sure where they are getting that from. He has been our backup ten for the first two games. A major advantage of him in that role is that if Russell stays on (which he will if fit), Kinghorn covers wing and full back very well.
Totally on board with all that, just happy that if Hogg isn’t 100% Kinghorn looks full of confidence at the moment.
Yeah, it's great. To be fair to him too, throughout his career Kinghorn has generally been pretty good for Scotland. Just never quite good enough to become established as first choice in any one position in the face of some pretty stuff competition.
I think that we forget that Kinghorn is only 26 because he's been around for so long. He signed for Edinburgh straight out of school and as a very raw prospect. It is only about now that we should be expecting him to achieve some consistency.
Harsh on both but is there an argument for Kinghorn over Steyn on the wing?
How do you fancy your chances at the Stade de France? The French starting XV will see at least one change. The prop Atonio has been banned for three weeks following a high tackle against Ireland and will miss at least two games(an appeal may yet be made). Elsewhere, that lump of a 2nd row, Willemse, will surely be dropped after two well-below par matches, and Romain Ntamack, who’s not been up to his usual excellence, could find himself on the bench and replaced by Matthieu Jalibert. Fullback Thomas Ramos may be dropped too and replaced by Melvyn Jaminet. The defeat in Dublin (the first in 14 matches) has told them that they’re far from invincible and I’m sure they’ll come back with a bang against your boys. That being said, I’ve been mightily impressed with your two wins, but can’t honestly see you winning, although it could be close.
switchskier wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:11 am
Harsh on both but is there an argument for Kinghorn over Steyn on the wing?
I’d struggle to see that argument to be honest, if Graham is fit then would drop out for me.
I would like to see Harris replaced in the bench, I don’t think he has enough versatility to warrant it. I’d rather see Redpath on the bench. Tuipulotu at the moment is going great guns with Jones beside him so Redpath is rightly going to struggle to shift him. On the bench he feels like a Pete Horne kind of cover player, similar to Kinghorn, where his general rugby ability can carry him through multiple positions. A bench of Horne, Kinghorn and Redpath feels like it could cover for most eventualities
switchskier wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:11 am
Harsh on both but is there an argument for Kinghorn over Steyn on the wing?
I’d struggle to see that argument to be honest, if Graham is fit then would drop out for me.
I would like to see Harris replaced in the bench, I don’t think he has enough versatility to warrant it. I’d rather see Redpath on the bench. Tuipulotu at the moment is going great guns with Jones beside him so Redpath is rightly going to struggle to shift him. On the bench he feels like a Pete Horne kind of cover player, similar to Kinghorn, where his general rugby ability can carry him through multiple positions. A bench of Horne, Kinghorn and Redpath feels like it could cover for most eventualities
When all fit Steyn is third choice winger. But he can't afford to continue at 60% tackle success rate though.
He is normally sound and a small enough sample size but the wingers ahead are a different class to those so far so missing that high a percentage over the whole championship would be an issue.
francoisfou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:02 pm
How do you fancy your chances at the Stade de France? The French starting XV will see at least one change. The prop Atonio has been banned for three weeks following a high tackle against Ireland and will miss at least two games(an appeal may yet be made). Elsewhere, that lump of a 2nd row, Willemse, will surely be dropped after two well-below par matches, and Romain Ntamack, who’s not been up to his usual excellence, could find himself on the bench and replaced by Matthieu Jalibert. Fullback Thomas Ramos may be dropped too and replaced by Melvyn Jaminet. The defeat in Dublin (the first in 14 matches) has told them that they’re far from invincible and I’m sure they’ll come back with a bang against your boys. That being said, I’ve been mightily impressed with your two wins, but can’t honestly see you winning, although it could be close.
For the France and Ireland games so long as we perform I think most would take that even if the expectations will have risen amongst many.
It'll be a hard game next week but I think there are areas we can challenge France and I don't think I'd be hugely shocked beating France even though I agree with the bookies that France are clear favourites
switchskier wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:11 am
Harsh on both but is there an argument for Kinghorn over Steyn on the wing?
I’d struggle to see that argument to be honest, if Graham is fit then would drop out for me.
I would like to see Harris replaced in the bench, I don’t think he has enough versatility to warrant it. I’d rather see Redpath on the bench. Tuipulotu at the moment is going great guns with Jones beside him so Redpath is rightly going to struggle to shift him. On the bench he feels like a Pete Horne kind of cover player, similar to Kinghorn, where his general rugby ability can carry him through multiple positions. A bench of Horne, Kinghorn and Redpath feels like it could cover for most eventualities
When all fit Steyn is third choice winger. But he can't afford to continue at 60% tackle success rate though.
He is normally sound and a small enough sample size but the wingers ahead are a different class to those so far so missing that high a percentage over the whole championship would be an issue.
I want to beat Ireland more than anything. I just fucking hate them and all their shitty pundits bleating about any player whoever looks remotely like they enjoy the game.
