Glos V Bath Friday

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Glos V Bath Friday

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Bath:-

1 Beno Obano, 2 Tom Dunn, 3 Will Stuart, 4 Fergus Lee-Warner, 5 Charlie Ewels, 6 Miles Reid, 7 Sam Underhill, 8 Alfie Barbeary, 9 Ben Spencer ©, 10 Finn Russell, 11 Will Muir, 12 Max Ojomoh, 13 Ollie Lawrence, 14 Joe Cokanasiga, 15 Tom de Glanville

Replacements: 16 Niall Annett, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 Thomas du Toit, 19 Josh McNally, 20 Jaco Coetzee, 21 Tom Carr-Smith, 22 Sam Harris, 23 Matt Gallagher
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Some interesting calls by Glaws. Barton keeping his place at 10, rather than picking Carreras there and starting with LRZ is a good vote of confidence for the young man. Also good to see uncapped Seb Atkinson keeping his place ahead of the capped Welsh bosh-merchant at 12. Bit cheeky to be claiming SAtkinson as home-grown though!

Bath have a hell of a line-up on paper, as per usual, but there's signs this season that they might actually be able to produce on the pitch as well. Still too early to tell, but 4 is the only position where you'd say that Bath XV is actively weak.

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I'm not convinced by GB sadly, but it is a confidence boost. Santi at 15 is usual for Glos when we have Hastings around. Hadn't noticed the academy claim for SA, it is stretching it a lot! he was signed to our academy but very recently! A nervy derby no doubt, not calling this one.
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Atkinson against Ojomoh is exciting! Can’t help but feel Finn will put Ojomoh in far better positions!

Some good auditions on though.
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I think sadly the gulf in half back paring quality might be telling
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Didn't Mark Atkinson start at 12 last week. If so could to see the younger Atkinson back in. Agree it's also good to see Barton continuing at 10, some test for him vs Russell. Some impact from the Welsh backs on the bench.

Glaws are generally quite cheeky with their "academy" players.
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Could be a good one. Quite a few tasty match ups on paper and i suspect its going to be a closely fought game.
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FKAS wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:13 pm Didn't Mark Atkinson start at 12 last week. If so could to see the younger Atkinson back in. Agree it's also good to see Barton continuing at 10, some test for him vs Russell. Some impact from the Welsh backs on the bench.

Glaws are generally quite cheeky with their "academy" players.
Who else have they been cheeky with? Yes Aki played 12 last week, was OK but that's his first real match in about 18 months. Haven't seen enough of Max Llewelyn yet to make up my mind, is he a 12? 13? where his real fortitude lies? time will tell. LRZ was training all week with a non-contact bib on, suspect his ribs are still sore from his last Wales match, I would be surprised if he comes on tactically, the uproar from our last match against Sale for not picking our best available players has rung home I think, having LRZ on the bench and our Argentinian players back is as much politics as targeting the home win.
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Gloskarlos wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:13 am
FKAS wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:13 pm Didn't Mark Atkinson start at 12 last week. If so could to see the younger Atkinson back in. Agree it's also good to see Barton continuing at 10, some test for him vs Russell. Some impact from the Welsh backs on the bench.

Glaws are generally quite cheeky with their "academy" players.
Who else have they been cheeky with? Yes Aki played 12 last week, was OK but that's his first real match in about 18 months. Haven't seen enough of Max Llewelyn yet to make up my mind, is he a 12? 13? where his real fortitude lies? time will tell. LRZ was training all week with a non-contact bib on, suspect his ribs are still sore from his last Wales match, I would be surprised if he comes on tactically, the uproar from our last match against Sale for not picking our best available players has rung home I think, having LRZ on the bench and our Argentinian players back is as much politics as targeting the home win.
Cam Jordan is normally claimed as a Glaws graduate despite him joining Glaws having already made his Prem debut with Tigers.

It's always easier to rest players away from home and then bring out the big guns at home. Fans will forgive that more easily so with Glaws back in front of the Shed it makes sense that the team is stronger this time out.

Max Llewelyn I think was a 12 over with Cardiff but I think you're right he might suit Glaws better at 13.
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Will Stuart continuing his England form at that first scrum.

Seb Atkinson looking sharp early doors. As is Johnny May.
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Is it just me or does Barbeary look about 40? :)
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FKAS wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:54 pm looking sharp early doors. As is Johnny May.
Didn't he get caught by Coka, after Coka had to turn?
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McGuigan looks the part.
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Bath look like they have potential as a side but I still can't shake that idea that they will mess it up somehow.
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Which Tyler wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:19 pm
FKAS wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:54 pm looking sharp early doors. As is Johnny May.
Didn't he get caught by Coka, after Coka had to turn?
Made the break from the Atkinson pass running a nice line and then ran the kick back to setting up the phases of play that led to the first Glaws try. Pace isn't what it was but he had a cracking first 10 mins. He's been busy and run good lines throughout. If you could put May's brain in Cokanasiga then you'd have an international winger.
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twitchy wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:58 pm Bath look like they have potential as a side but I still can't shake that idea that they will mess it up somehow.
We have an unrivalled ability to piss off any ref.
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Which Tyler wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:01 pm
twitchy wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:58 pm Bath look like they have potential as a side but I still can't shake that idea that they will mess it up somehow.
We have an unrivalled ability to piss off any ref.
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Mellsblue wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:07 pm #justiceforowenfarrell
Justice has never knowingly fingered Owen (even when found guilty, he gets leniency)


Have to say, Carley's forgiven whatever it was we did to him in the opening minutes at half time - even made amends a little (IMO TDT's try was a double movement - and there have been a few other things he'd have penalised us for in the first half)
We've still done plenty of outright stupid stuff though
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When Bath turned it on in the second half they were good. Glaws just found themselves playing to much in the wrong areas of the pitch. Bath completed very aggressively at the breakdown, Underhill was very good.
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From an England perspective, Underhill was superb and Will Muir continues to be someone who deserves a look at international level. Barbeary was rubbish today - really disappointing with upright carrying into set targets. Looked like a player believing his own press and expecting to make metres in contact when they were set and ready for him (although full marks to the Glaws defence for so efficiently shutting him down).

On the battle of the EQ 12s, Ojomoh looked the more promising, although neither were particularly error-free. I think they're both worth having a look at, but more as works-in-progress than as the solution to our centre woes.

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Really enjoyable game I thought. Both sides opting to play a bit with plenty of enterprise, good movement and skilful attacking. Glos very good early on but faltered in the 2nd half as Bath came on strong. Underhill and Reid impressed.
Both young 12's had their moments and overall did well. I really like Atkinson's passing - his timing is just immaculate. Ojomoh runs some good lines and seemed to be on Russell's wavelength.
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Puja wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:31 pm From an England perspective, Underhill was superb and Will Muir continues to be someone who deserves a look at international level. Barbeary was rubbish today - really disappointing with upright carrying into set targets. Looked like a player believing his own press and expecting to make metres in contact when they were set and ready for him (although full marks to the Glaws defence for so efficiently shutting him down).

On the battle of the EQ 12s, Ojomoh looked the more promising, although neither were particularly error-free. I think they're both worth having a look at, but more as works-in-progress than as the solution to our centre woes.

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Barbeary did lots of very good things. His tight work was excellent as was his nuts and bolts in the breakdown. Very harshly penalised early in the first half. Yes a few upright carries but he was nothing like rubbish!

On Barbeary the off the ball tackle was not nice, but just afterwards it did look like his leg was targeted again with a low no arms close to the line. Hopefully he’s ok. Sad part for me is some Tigers fans on social media saying he milked it! Cause taking an exorcet to the knee / thigh is nothing!

I thought Atkinson was excellent. His hands were very good with a wide range of passing. Positionally he was very good and his decision making excellent.

Muir is probably unlucky that there are a long list of wingers worth looking at. None of which really sets the world alight but are all very good prem players.
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fivepointer wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:43 am Really enjoyable game I thought. Both sides opting to play a bit with plenty of enterprise, good movement and skilful attacking. Glos very good early on but faltered in the 2nd half as Bath came on strong. Underhill and Reid impressed.
Both young 12's had their moments and overall did well. I really like Atkinson's passing - his timing is just immaculate. Ojomoh runs some good lines and seemed to be on Russell's wavelength.
Unfortunately, IMO, the best 12 on view was playing at 13 for Bath! ;)
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Oakboy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:15 am
fivepointer wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:43 am Really enjoyable game I thought. Both sides opting to play a bit with plenty of enterprise, good movement and skilful attacking. Glos very good early on but faltered in the 2nd half as Bath came on strong. Underhill and Reid impressed.
Both young 12's had their moments and overall did well. I really like Atkinson's passing - his timing is just immaculate. Ojomoh runs some good lines and seemed to be on Russell's wavelength.
Unfortunately, IMO, the best 12 on view was playing at 13 for Bath! ;)
I thought he looked a lot better at 13 with a bit more space to work in. Allowed him more one on one tackles where he could fend and use a step rather than just dropping his shoulder into two tacklers.

I thought Seb Atkinson looked classy as usual. Range of passing, carried well in traffic when he had to and made his tackles. Couple of errors but he was heavily involved. Ojomoh looked good as well, think he'll thrive alongside Russell. He's got a nice range of skills.
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I thought we were completely over 12s who can pass. Atkinson is quite good through contact in general?
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