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Donny osmond wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:40 am Hey Son of Mathonwy, I saw this and thought of you ...

lol. This is point I was trying to make with my post yesterday but less subtly. Always ask yourself whether you’d be in favour of a policy if the oppo introduced it. If you wouldn’t then it’s a shoite policy.
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Donny osmond wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:40 am Hey Son of Mathonwy, I saw this and thought of you ...

Yes, I am George Monbiot's representative here on RR, that is correct. :)
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Scary polling (for Democrats . . . and the rest of planet Earth) in American swing/battleground states:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... oters.html
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Biden is an absolute handbrake on what should be a Democratic winning election. He'll either lose it, or scrape home. Doesn't matter how unfairly he's been portrayed, doesn't matter how much he's done vs what he's perceived to have done, doesn't matter if he feels fit and hearty and hale and ready for a second term - it's his duty to step down for the good of the country, because the alternative is Trump gone full fascist.

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Puja wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:50 pm Biden is an absolute handbrake on what should be a Democratic winning election. He'll either lose it, or scrape home. Doesn't matter how unfairly he's been portrayed, doesn't matter how much he's done vs what he's perceived to have done, doesn't matter if he feels fit and hearty and hale and ready for a second term - it's his duty to step down for the good of the country, because the alternative is Trump gone full fascist.

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Sadly I think it’s too late now. A curse also on the democrats who didn’t want to challenge him and risk their careers. The lack of moral courage in politics is just astounding.
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No, not the latest mass shooting.

A growing boldness of anti-diversity amongst privileged wealthy people that are successfully purging private and public institutions of higher learning of people they perceive to be diversity hires. In June last year the Supreme Court effectively struck down affirmative action requirements of Colleges and Universities who account for race as one of the many factors that may preclude an individual being accepted into places of learning. Since then there has been a glut of bullying leaders in these institutions by powerful, wealthy, connected individuals that harass via media, both main and social, to cement manufactured conspiracy and result in either dismissal or resignation. The president of Harvard is the latest casualty, but there have also been issues at MIT and UPenn, and countless other places where anti-diversity advocates have gone hard at trying to homogenize the higher learning environment. It started with nonsense like hysteria surrounding critical race theory being taught in schools (it isn't) and the anti-LGBTQ faux outrage leading to book banning and such. The emboldening of these fucktards that are terrified of having their legacy babies and eugenic cult fantasy world challenged by diverse, talented members of society just shows exactly why affirmative action practices were in societies best interests. It's getting pretty fucking bad, and it is osmiating outwards from the US to other countries, all fueled by the privileged wealth of an inbred few. It's like we are heading towards an artistic, scientific, and intellectual Dark Age.
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Girlfriend was at a work night out last night, got sat beside the new Jersey team members

Michelle Obama is a trans woman

Joe Biden kills people who speak out against him

Trump is a great man who putin respects

Morepork your about 2 stops on the train from these vegetables

Moderator’s note: I’m sure you can tell the story without using a slur.
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To be fair, Trump's latest social media efforts are absolute gold.
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Lol, mikey. I'd love to be able to laugh at that stuff but it just gives me a sense of doom.
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Same as with Paddy - it's funny until you remember it's taken as gospel truth by a very sizeable proportion of Americans.

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Oh come on, fat Nikki Rodham Haley or pious, god-fearing 6 finger Donny didn't do it for you?
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paddy no 11 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:44 am Girlfriend was at a work night out last night, got sat beside the new Jersey team members

Michelle Obama is a tranny

Joe Biden kills people who speak out against him

Trump is a great man who putin respects

Morepork your about 2 stops on the train from these vegetables
I can be on the speed line in 10 minutes. They are either a). Wealthy and will do anything for less tax, B). Racist/christian nationalist front, A and B, C). So ignorant and cogently challenged they can barely dress or feed themselves and the daily movement of the tides is a complete mystery to them.
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Mikey Brown wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:23 am To be fair, Trump's latest social media efforts are absolute gold.
Has any other potential dictator in history been so brazen about how dictatorial they would be before winning power? Its hugely concerning how many Americans seem to view this as an equalish race between Trump and Biden and can't be arsed to vote for the incumbent. Biden, for his many faults, does at least respect the constitution and democracy.
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Democracy? Oh do you mean COMMUNISM???
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Tucker carlson weekending in Moscow, collecting his dues no doubt, bizarre that the maga loves Russian assets
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And, shock horror, it appears that Trump doesn't actually have presidential immunity for criminal acts whilst he was in office. And equally shocking, its also apparent that there is an orphaned backbone wandering the halls of congress trying to find Mitch McDonnell who has killed Biden's bill because he seems too scared to stand up to Trump. If this human jellyfish had ANY principles at all then he would have have found Trump guilty in the impeachment process (the 2nd one) and we could all have avoided this current psych-drama.
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What the fuck are the dems doing with this double down on Biden shit. If Trump is re-elected, they only have themselves to blame. I used to think anyone except Trump will beat Biden, now I'm thinking it might be anyone except Biden will beat Trump.
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J Dory wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:16 pm What the fuck are the dems doing with this double down on Biden shit. If Trump is re-elected, they only have themselves to blame. I used to think anyone except Trump will beat Biden, now I'm thinking it might be anyone except Biden will beat Trump.
The conclusions of the sensitive document investigation are damning. If he can’t remember when his son died and isn’t seen as being mentally strong enough to prosecute, how the hell can he be president. Is he even fit enough now?

If Biden continues then I suspect Trump will win.

Sadly backbones appear to be in short supply in both the Republican and Democratic parties
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Biden should have stood down. He's been president, he should be able to die happy having hung in politics for his whole life and finally, unexpectedly, won the big prize.

Unfortunately there's not an obvious Democrat who would stand a better chance against Trump. Biden is slightly behind Trump in the nationwide polls (although it's close), but eg Kamala Harris polls worse against Trump. Do they simply lack a good candidate? Maybe not, maybe like Labour in 2020, the good candidates can't get onto the ballot.

Depressing as this question is, does anyone know of a Democrat who looks like they would do better than Biden against Trump?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwid ... l_election
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The disconnect between what people want and what the DNC wants is the problem, as always. Whatever you thought of the Biden senility/dementia rhetoric last time round he looks like a bumbling, fragile old man right now.

That’s not a diss - he’s just that old. Has succession planning ever worked for the team in power?

What a sad situation.
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Gavin Newsom maybe? The problem is that it's getting too close to being too late to have any kind of new narrative - most of Harris's polling problems come from the fact that she's sat very quietly behind Biden and any issues with him get transferred to her almost automatically (plus the whole "daring to be a woman in politics" thing which is likely knocking a few percent off her polling).

If Biden had stood aside early, then Harris could have been campaigning on her own right and faced a proper primary from the likes of Buttigieg, Newsom, Whittmer, etc, and thus got her own individual brand out there (and had it battle-tested against her own compatriots). As it is, even if Biden resigns/dies tomorrow, she'll just be nominated as the continuity candidate and treated in the polls as "Biden in a skirt".

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Depressing.

Nah, worse than that, frightening, because it means Trump.
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This is fucking bad. It will be the issue focused on for a general election. The electorate is so conservative in outlook that it cannot even countenance the accommodation of a non-pale stale male. Age isn’t the issue, it’s perception of personality and the sex pest persona is now in front. Bernie sanders would eat Trump alive one on one, but you know, socialism. We should have nominated Liz Warren when we had the chance. But Girlz + socialism. Fucking pathetic.
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She fucked herself and everyone else by turning on Bernie. If anything Trump is entirely Warren’s fault.
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The discussion over Biden’s mental competence just isn’t going away. It’s true that the report was written by a republican who may have tried to get the most political capital out of it as possible (shame that the politics of a public servant is even in question), but those doubt are hardly new.

In the UK, men in grey suits would be having a quiet chat.
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