Bernie was a sheepdog after all.

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UGagain wrote:This is just the same shit as last time.

The hypocrisy, the sense of right wing white male privilege, the authoritarianism.

You all seem to think you can abuse and belittle people with impunity. And then you are outraged when the targets don't back down or you're called on the bigotry.

Pathetic.
Hahahahahahahaha. I guess we can't all go round worshipping strongman leaders, pretending that they're unimpeachably pure, dreamy sexyboat men of the people. Do you have a cut-out of Assad and Putin that you rub yourself up against every night?

The best part of this latest meltdown is that you were the one that went out of his way to throw some shade. But hey, we're the big meanypants, right? If you plan on continuing to act like a shithead, don't go round having a meltdown every time you're told to fuck off.
He was tragic. Vague, populist, triumphalist, negative, more vague, more populist.........balls.
And that's how we spell conservative Alabama purchase, tragic knuts.
Yeah,...the world is Jesse James with a fecking heavy dose of Adolf.
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Enough from the peanut gallery. Back to Bernie.

Ralph Nader says Bernie has set up Hillary to become the Great Betrayer and thus to continue to build a social movement.

Go to about 4 mins 45 seconds if you don't want to watch the whole thing.


As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.

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morepork wrote:Why are college kids brainwashed?
American colleges (specifically state funded colleges) tend to adhere to the mantra of "Submission to ideas" rather than "Permission to ideas", along with all the pushing of Trigger-Warnings, Safe-Space (safe area) etc. etc...list goes on... Pussyfying students to the point where they become offended or fearful of things they WILL eventually experience in the real world. They should be encouraging them to debate ideas and develop their own critical thinking skills so they are able to think for themselves, and cope with life without being offended at every twist and turn. You cannot wander through life with a helmet on, and a pillow under your rear end
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-2 ... safe-space

FINALLY!
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Coco wrote:
Coco wrote:
morepork wrote:Why are college kids brainwashed?
American colleges (specifically state funded colleges) tend to adhere to the mantra of "Submission to ideas" rather than "Permission to ideas", along with all the pushing of Trigger-Warnings, Safe-Space (safe area) etc. etc...list goes on... Pussyfying students to the point where they become offended or fearful of things they WILL eventually experience in the real world. They should be encouraging them to debate ideas and develop their own critical thinking skills so they are able to think for themselves, and cope with life without being offended at every twist and turn. You cannot wander through life with a helmet on, and a pillow under your rear end
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-2 ... safe-space

FINALLY!

What a crock of shit. This is just a thinly veiled pop at "liberal" academia, a boogeyman created by stupid cunts that failed to finish high school. Note the charming descent into Jew-bashing and, yep, you guessed it, gun control.

F- Coco. Must try harder.
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morepork wrote:
Coco wrote:
Coco wrote:
American colleges (specifically state funded colleges) tend to adhere to the mantra of "Submission to ideas" rather than "Permission to ideas", along with all the pushing of Trigger-Warnings, Safe-Space (safe area) etc. etc...list goes on... Pussyfying students to the point where they become offended or fearful of things they WILL eventually experience in the real world. They should be encouraging them to debate ideas and develop their own critical thinking skills so they are able to think for themselves, and cope with life without being offended at every twist and turn. You cannot wander through life with a helmet on, and a pillow under your rear end
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-2 ... safe-space

FINALLY!

What a crock of shit. This is just a thinly veiled pop at "liberal" academia, a boogeyman created by stupid cunts that failed to finish high school. Note the charming descent into Jew-bashing and, yep, you guessed it, gun control.

F- Coco. Must try harder.
I did not see anything about Jewish people or gun control.. Can you show me? I must have missed that.
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Coco wrote:
morepork wrote:

What a crock of shit. This is just a thinly veiled pop at "liberal" academia, a boogeyman created by stupid cunts that failed to finish high school. Note the charming descent into Jew-bashing and, yep, you guessed it, gun control.

F- Coco. Must try harder.
I did not see anything about Jewish people or gun control.. Can you show me? I must have missed that.

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A] since when is an article judged on the contents of the comments section?

B] is Tyler Durden a real journalist?

C] why is the university of Chicago writing to its entrants for 2020, who haven't applied yet?

D] surely the university of Chicago would have a better letterhead than that?


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Is the American system to call it's classes by their graduation year? This year's intake will be due to graduate in 2020
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canta_brian wrote:Is the American system to call it's classes by their graduation year? This year's intake will be due to graduate in 2020
That would make sense.
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Which Tyler wrote:A] since when is an article judged on the contents of the comments section?

B] is Tyler Sudden a real journalist?

C] why is the university of Chicago writing to its enfants for 2020, who haven't applied yet?

D] surely the university of Chicago would have a better letterhead than that?

When the tone of the article is pandering to the "Non-PC is the new PC" crowd.
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morepork wrote:
Coco wrote:
morepork wrote:

What a crock of shit. This is just a thinly veiled pop at "liberal" academia, a boogeyman created by stupid cunts that failed to finish high school. Note the charming descent into Jew-bashing and, yep, you guessed it, gun control.

F- Coco. Must try harder.
I did not see anything about Jewish people or gun control.. Can you show me? I must have missed that.

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Oh come on Porkster... Comments?? Ridiculous.

Btw, NY Mag, Fortune, and various other sites have artucles about this letter and I'm almost sure you would be able to find one with comments that suited your taste. :lol:
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Education are ruining our childrens. It's all socialist PC brainwashing by liberal academics.
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morepork wrote:Education are ruining our childrens. It's all socialist PC brainwashing by liberal academics.
Negative... What IS ruining our children are schools, professors and faculty not allowing them to think for themselves, debate and form their own opinions - and yes, they will differ. What we do not need are a bunch of mindless drones with no opinions, thoughts or dreams of their very own.
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Don't worry, charter schools backed by the Clinton Foundation will soon be spreading their free market small pox to public infrastructure the world over. I can tell you first hand Coco that the ability of recent school leavers and graduates to undertake independent work at the next level is pretty grim at the moment.
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word.
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cashead wrote:Fuck charter schools. Fuck charter schools forever.
In a lot of cases I would agree, however, my daughter did her last 2 years at a Charter School that is funded by a very good hospital and many of the faculty are medical professionals. Both years she was required to intern at the hospital part time, and her senior year was a paid internship. It was very good experience for her academics and for life itself.
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What are charter schools?
It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Donny osmond wrote:What are charter schools?
I think they are similar to free schools,but as with all these schemes the devil is in the detail .
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I see, cheers. Well, I dont have anything against the concept, afaic the less ability any govt has to tell teachers how to teach the better, but as you say they would still need to be subject too pretty stringent standards for employment of teachers and outcomes for pupils.
It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Donny osmond wrote:I see, cheers. Well, I dont have anything against the concept, afaic the less ability any govt has to tell teachers how to teach the better, but as you say they would still need to be subject too pretty stringent standards for employment of teachers and outcomes for pupils.

They rape public resources to the detriment of proper schools.
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morepork wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:I see, cheers. Well, I dont have anything against the concept, afaic the less ability any govt has to tell teachers how to teach the better, but as you say they would still need to be subject too pretty stringent standards for employment of teachers and outcomes for pupils.

They rape public resources to the detriment of proper schools.
You say that, and again the devils in the detail, but it's basically how Swedish schools are run and they do rather well.
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Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
morepork wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:I see, cheers. Well, I dont have anything against the concept, afaic the less ability any govt has to tell teachers how to teach the better, but as you say they would still need to be subject too pretty stringent standards for employment of teachers and outcomes for pupils.

They rape public resources to the detriment of proper schools.
You say that, and again the devils in the detail, but it's basically how Swedish schools are run and they do rather well.

Come to Philadelphia and see how well they do. They are shit. The ones in NZ are plagued by fraud, shoddy standards, and more shit.
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morepork wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
morepork wrote:

They rape public resources to the detriment of proper schools.
You say that, and again the devils in the detail, but it's basically how Swedish schools are run and they do rather well.

Come to Philadelphia and see how well they do. They are shit. The ones in NZ are plagued by fraud, shoddy standards, and more shit.
That may well be true but that doesn't mean that the model itself is bad, which is Donny's point.
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morepork wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:I see, cheers. Well, I dont have anything against the concept, afaic the less ability any govt has to tell teachers how to teach the better, but as you say they would still need to be subject too pretty stringent standards for employment of teachers and outcomes for pupils.

They rape public resources to the detriment of proper schools.
Whats a proper school?
It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
morepork wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
You say that, and again the devils in the detail, but it's basically how Swedish schools are run and they do rather well.

Come to Philadelphia and see how well they do. They are shit. The ones in NZ are plagued by fraud, shoddy standards, and more shit.
That may well be true but that doesn't mean that the model itself is bad, which is Donny's point.

I think it's inherently flawed. It is a vehicle for accessing public wealth. Tax funded entities, many of them for-profit, operating without public accountability is a bad idea kids.
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