Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:50 pm
Your memory of pre-Thatcher times is a bit shaky.
Your memory of prog is self-evidently fucked.
Nah mate, the mid to late 60's were ok because of the Beatles; 70-79 was absolutely sh8t- the country was disintegrating even more rapidly than 65-70, all progressive ideas were scuppered by the trade unions and by three godawful governments, we had to borrow a load of money from the IMF, oil prices sky rocketed, NI 'Troubles'......but more especially, England had a lot of good rugby players but no idea what to do with them. Prog Rock is shit, with the exception of King Crimson possibly. The Clash were great though at the other end of the spectrum. I quite enjoyed the 70's in fairness, apart from 74/75 when my father died, having been effectively forced to leave the country by Healey's tax regime; came back in 75, discovered booze and fags etc so all ok for me, whilst the country around was dying, then punk, then winter of discontent which lead to Thatch. Then I was at university so happy days
How old were you in 1978 btw?
Yes.
Oh dear.
(though in fairness, TFTO was a low point which colours my pov )
Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:55 pm
Nah mate, the mid to late 60's were ok because of the Beatles; 70-79 was absolutely sh8t- the country was disintegrating even more rapidly than 65-70, all progressive ideas were scuppered by the trade unions and by three godawful governments, we had to borrow a load of money from the IMF, oil prices sky rocketed, NI 'Troubles'......but more especially, England had a lot of good rugby players but no idea what to do with them. Prog Rock is shit, with the exception of King Crimson possibly. The Clash were great though at the other end of the spectrum. I quite enjoyed the 70's in fairness, apart from 74/75 when my father died, having been effectively forced to leave the country by Healey's tax regime; came back in 75, discovered booze and fags etc so all ok for me, whilst the country around was dying, then punk, then winter of discontent which lead to Thatch. Then I was at university so happy days
How old were you in 1978 btw?
Yes.
Oh dear.
(though in fairness, TFTO was a low point which colours my pov )
TFTO is massively disappointing (considering its ultra-prog ambitions). I haven't listened to it for years. Going for the One and Tormato are the best albums IMO. There's some brilliant stuff on Relayer, Close to the Edge and Fragile but you have to find it amongst the not so brilliant stuff. Anyway, Gabriel-era Genesis is peak prog, better than Yes.
Oh dear.
(though in fairness, TFTO was a low point which colours my pov )
TFTO is massively disappointing (considering its ultra-prog ambitions). I haven't listened to it for years. Going for the One and Tormato are the best albums IMO. There's some brilliant stuff on Relayer, Close to the Edge and Fragile but you have to find it amongst the not so brilliant stuff. Anyway, Gabriel-era Genesis is peak prog, better than Yes.
Oh dear.
(though in fairness, TFTO was a low point which colours my pov )
TFTO is massively disappointing (considering its ultra-prog ambitions). I haven't listened to it for years. Going for the One and Tormato are the best albums IMO. There's some brilliant stuff on Relayer, Close to the Edge and Fragile but you have to find it amongst the not so brilliant stuff. Anyway, Gabriel-era Genesis is peak prog, better than Yes.
agreed!!
Agreement across the political divide! Only prog can do this .
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:40 pm
TFTO is massively disappointing (considering its ultra-prog ambitions). I haven't listened to it for years. Going for the One and Tormato are the best albums IMO. There's some brilliant stuff on Relayer, Close to the Edge and Fragile but you have to find it amongst the not so brilliant stuff. Anyway, Gabriel-era Genesis is peak prog, better than Yes.
agreed!!
Agreement across the political divide! Only prog can do this .
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