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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:54 am Systematic and systemic pro-Israel bias in BBC coverage of Gaza:

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/bbc-civi ... d-coverage
Point of English: making the post above I realised that I was slightly hazy about the distinction between systematic and systemic, about how much overlap there was between the two terms. So, to be clear, since I've got it clear in my head :o , they have completely distinct meanings.

Systemic means relating to a whole system, eg when something is true or appears throughout a system.
Systematic means done using a system, with a plan, a method.
So sometimes both terms apply, sometimes one or the other, or neither.

That's enough of that, back to the politics :D
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https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/bbc-civi ... d-coverage
The BBC’s Civil War Over Gaza

The BBC is facing an internal revolt over its reporting on Israel’s war on Gaza.


Their primary battlefield has become the online news operation. Drop Site News spoke to 13 current and former staffers who mapped out the extensive bias in the BBC’s coverage and how their demands for change have been largely met with silence from management. At times, these journalists point out, the coverage has been more credulous about Israeli claims than the UK’s own Conservative leaders and the Israeli media, while devaluing Palestinian life, ignoring atrocities, and creating a false equivalence in an entirely unbalanced conflict.
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Ceasefire deal in Gaza. Will it come to pass? Will it hold? What inducements or threats brought Israel to agree?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... -ceasefire

The Israelis are showing typical good faith by murdering as many Gazans as they can before the deal comes into force.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:27 pm Ceasefire deal in Gaza. Will it come to pass? Will it hold? What inducements or threats brought Israel to agree?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... -ceasefire

The Israelis are showing typical good faith by murdering as many Gazans as they can before the deal comes into force.

Unbelievable really, let's murder 300 people before Sunday just because we can
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paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:09 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:27 pm Ceasefire deal in Gaza. Will it come to pass? Will it hold? What inducements or threats brought Israel to agree?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... -ceasefire

The Israelis are showing typical good faith by murdering as many Gazans as they can before the deal comes into force.

Unbelievable really, let's murder 300 people before Sunday just because we can
Those murders Defence Actions will surely be the ones that stop the terrorism from happening in the future. Those specific 300ish will make everyone all safe.

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Just got back from the Gaza protest in Whitehall. Decent crowd considering the police banned the planned route from the BBC HQ, the ceasefire is hopefully going to start tomorrow . . . and it's bloody cold!

I will keep coming to these marches though, whether or not the ceasefire holds. It's a bit of a long road but the occupation needs to end. And god knows what Trump has in store for Palestine.
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Puja wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:49 am
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:09 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:27 pm Ceasefire deal in Gaza. Will it come to pass? Will it hold? What inducements or threats brought Israel to agree?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... -ceasefire

The Israelis are showing typical good faith by murdering as many Gazans as they can before the deal comes into force.

Unbelievable really, let's murder 300 people before Sunday just because we can
Those murders Defence Actions will surely be the ones that stop the terrorism from happening in the future. Those specific 300ish will make everyone all safe.

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Yeah. It's no different to all the previous 47,000 killings really but this does bring into sharp relief how they are just trying to kill as many as they can, for no reason other than to kill them.
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Breathtakingly callous and depressing words from Trump on Gaza and how he doesn't expect the ceasefire to hold (or seem to care) and how nice he thinks the location is, if it could be rebuilt in a different way, with different people in charge.

The clip is about 20 seconds in to this Owen Jones video:

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The kush is upping his investments in israeli settlements

Gaza will be turned into a Havana style playground

West bank fully cleansed
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Trump calls for ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... iden-pause
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He just genuinely doesn't understand that they're actual people, does he?

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Puja wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:46 pm He just genuinely doesn't understand that they're actual people, does he?

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My take is that he's an extreme narcissist, so he doesn't care about any people.

He'd turn on the Israelis in a second if it was to his advantage, although this is extremely unlikely because large parts of the US population think they're the good guys. And he only takes account of what US people want if they're useful to him.
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