Election Tracker/Predictions

[morepork]

The tender little snowflakes are protesting, universities are having counselors brought in to help students deal with their emotional stress, professors are offering to allow students to skip mid terms if the election results have caused them too much emotional anguish. What the hell are these little darlings going to do in the real world?

Education is not such a bad thing you know. This anti-academic reactionary nonsense is a large part of why the country ended up with the two fuckwit presidential candidates it did.

These kids will inherit the fall out.

[rowan]

I think we need to reserve judgement on whether Trump is preferable, warmongery-wise, to Clinton until he has actually taken office and made some decisions about war. He has already advocated war crimes, so I wouldn't be making any assumptions based on zero data points so far.

Rowan should wait for the official Kremlin line...

Why, because I don't hate them? Hmmm. That must come very strangely to you. Perhaps it's because I grew up in New Zealand, where the anti-Russian propaganda wasn't quite so intense as it was in North America & Western Europe. I've also lived and worked in Russia, albeit it short term only.

[morepork]

I think we need to reserve judgement on whether Trump is preferable, warmongery-wise, to Clinton until he has actually taken office and made some decisions about war. He has already advocated war crimes, so I wouldn't be making any assumptions based on zero data points so far.

Rowan should wait for the official Kremlin line...

Why, because I don't hate them? Hmmm. That must come very strangely to you. Perhaps it's because I grew up in New Zealand, where the anti-Russian propaganda wasn't quite so intense as it was in North America & Western Europe. I've also lived and worked in Russia, albeit it short term only.

Guess where Lizard is from?

[rowan]

The comment I was replying to wasn't made by Lizard. It was made by Stones.

[morepork]

Fair enough.


I'm just a junk yard dog.

[Stones of granite]

I think we need to reserve judgement on whether Trump is preferable, warmongery-wise, to Clinton until he has actually taken office and made some decisions about war. He has already advocated war crimes, so I wouldn't be making any assumptions based on zero data points so far.

Rowan should wait for the official Kremlin line...

Why, because I don't hate them? Hmmm. That must come very strangely to you. Perhaps it's because I grew up in New Zealand, where the anti-Russian propaganda wasn't quite so intense as it was in North America & Western Europe. I've also lived and worked in Russia, albeit it short term only.

You seem to be incapable of distinguishing between people and their government.

You infer with this post that I hate Russians (because I wasn't brought up in New Zealand, or something). This simply isn't true and I challenge you to find a post where I have ever said that. I too have worked in Russia, and have a number of Russian friends and colleagues, some of whom still live in Russia and some who won't ever live there again.

On the other hand, you appear to follow the Kremlin line very, very closely. To the point of being a Trump fanboi when the Kremlin backed him in the election (and quite possibly positively intervened behind the scenes). This, I find curious for someone who professes to having strong left-wing beliefs, as the Russian political system is a corrupt kleptocracy run by billionaire oligarchs that is not afraid to dispose of troublesome opposition politicians when it suits them (e.g Nemtsov).
Furthermore, the critical analysis that you subject anything from "the West" to is notably missing when it comes to your naive acceptance of any utterance from the Kremlin, however unbelievable.

Edited to add: One last thing. You grew up in New Zealand, I grew up in the "evil" United Kingdom. What makes you think you are in a position to judge what level of "anti-Russian propaganda" I was "subjected" to, when you were on the other side of the planet?

[rowan]

Your comments show just how blatantly anti-Russian you are, Stones. The proof's in the pudding. Of course I'm aware of Russia's faults, but living and working in the country certainly provides added insight, as you yourself demonstrated with your final paragraph in that rant. I don't hate Russia so much that I blame them for conflicts the West has blatantly instigated - such as Ukraine and Syria - whereas the propaganda industry which passes for American & British mainstream media does. I've been following it closely on the internet for the past 16 years, and we always got a fair bit of it sent our way in New Zealand when I was growing up as well. I didn't suggest we were free of this propaganda. We simply didn't get as much of it as you evidently did.

[morepork]

Rowan, have you seen the state of NZ "media" over the last 10 years?

[kk67]

America's weemin await your endorsement of their feminist credentials with shivering anticipation.

I'll feckin endorse their feminist credentials............and they don't need to shave neither.

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kk, "Would you?"

I have a terrible secret that involves Katie Hopkins.

[kk67]

The tender little snowflakes are protesting, universities are having counselors brought in to help students deal with their emotional stress, professors are offering to allow students to skip mid terms if the election results have caused them too much emotional anguish. What the hell are these little darlings going to do in the real world?

Education is not such a bad thing you know. This anti-academic reactionary nonsense is a large part of why the country ended up with the two fuckwit presidential candidates it did.

These kids will inherit the fall out.

I saw a US cultural commentator recently talking about intelligence being very trendy at the moment. I got the feeling she was just talking about The Big Bang Theory.
Which leads me to the thought that the rest of the entire world consider the UK as being like Top Gear.

[Stones of granite]

Your comments show just how blatantly anti-Russian you are, Stones. The proof's in the pudding. Of course I'm aware of Russia's faults, but living and working in the country certainly provides added insight, as you yourself demonstrated with your final paragraph in that rant. I don't hate Russia so much that I blame them for conflicts the West has blatantly instigated - such as Ukraine and Syria - whereas the propaganda industry which passes for American & British mainstream media does. I've been following it closely on the internet for the past 16 years, and we always got a fair bit of it sent our way in New Zealand when I was growing up as well. I didn't suggest we were free of this propaganda. We simply didn't get as much of it as you evidently did.

Oh yeah, another one of the "I know what you think because of who I think you are" brigade.

Fucking retard.

[canta_brian]

Your comments show just how blatantly anti-Russian you are, Stones. The proof's in the pudding.

No it isn't.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

If you can't get a simple quote like that right can you ever expect us to take you seriously?

[rowan]

Your comments show just how blatantly anti-Russian you are, Stones. The proof's in the pudding.

No it isn't.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

If you can't get a simple quote like that right can you ever expect us to take you seriously?

Not according to the Urban Dictionary. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... %20pudding

So don't preach to me about the English language. That would be extremely arrogant.

[morepork]

Speaking of pudding.


I'm fucking dis custard,

[Digby]

I did at least get a laugh from the idea it was the West who instigated conflict in the Ukraine

[canta_brian]

Your comments show just how blatantly anti-Russian you are, Stones. The proof's in the pudding.

No it isn't.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

If you can't get a simple quote like that right can you ever expect us to take you seriously?

Not according to the Urban Dictionary. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... %20pudding

So don't preach to me about the English language. That would be extremely arrogant.

That's exactly your problem. You believe every unreliable source on the Internet. Why not actually think about the quote for yourself instead.

[rowan]

You were proved wrong, canta-brian. That should be a lesson in humility for you. At least Morepork was big enough to admit his mistake earlier, & I admitted mine when I was duly pulled up over suggesting the election had been 'fixed' in Clinton's favor (no way out of that one ).

Like Stones' Russophobic little rant, yours was no more than a wayward shoot-the-messenger approach, all because someone does not think as you do.

[morepork]

Brian's character has been assassinated by "warhammer" posting on an online urban dictionary. A new low.

[canta_brian]

You were proved wrong, canta-brian. That should be a lesson in humility for you. At least Morepork was big enough to admit his mistake earlier, & I admitted mine when I was duly pulled up over suggesting the election had been 'fixed' in Clinton's favor (no way out of that one ).

Like Stones' Russophobic little rant, yours was no more than a wayward shoot-the-messenger approach, all because someone does not think as you do.

Are you genuinely this thick?

[rowan]

Hope you like the taste of your own haughty words, Canta

[bruce]

There's a lot of thick people out there!

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proo ... dding.html

[J Dory]

Speaking of pudding.


I'm fucking dis custard,

I'm deep in dis pear.

[rowan]

There is also a lot of arrogance and refusal to concede ones errors. An idiom is a fixed expression. The one I used can be found all over the internet and is widely used in the modern era; thus making it a fixed expression - whether you like it or not.

But all this comes down to a really quite trivial - and wayward - shoot-the-messenger tactic against someone who does not think as you do. Not surprising really, given arrogance and narrow-mindedness go hand-in-hand...

[Coco]

The tender little snowflakes are protesting, universities are having counselors brought in to help students deal with their emotional stress, professors are offering to allow students to skip mid terms if the election results have caused them too much emotional anguish. What the hell are these little darlings going to do in the real world?

Yeah people are upset about the outcome of this election. OH GEE I FUCKING WONDER WHY. TRULY NEVER A MORE MYSTERIOUS CONUNDRUM.

It must be easy to have a laugh at the "tender little snowflakes" when you're insulated from the so-called real world where there are people being attacked by emboldened bigoted human garbage cuntsacks because they happened to have the temerity to be a kike or a beaner or a nigger or a faggot or a dyke or a gook or a tranny. The nerve of those people, right? How dare they be sexually attracted to people of their own gender or be a different colour or identify as a gender that isn't the one they were physically born with.

Or maybe you could not be a smug asshole giggling from a distance.

Nice words there. What youve just typed is worse than i have seen anywhere. Screaming and stomping feet when things dont go your way, after the whole country has spoken by voting does nothing but prove how "kids these days" cannot cope with being told NO, or having to accept that not everyone feels the same as they do. This is how it works in our country and sometimes you win, sometimes you dont, but you always have to take a look at the bigger picture.

Trump did not win because people are racist bigots. He won because most of America is worse off now than they were in 2008. I understand that every single person has something important to them, however, RIGHT NOW, more people are worried about providing for themselves and their families.

Cant just wave a magic wand or beat an ideal into peoples heads incessantly.. Most people tire of it or even start rejecting it (like religion!!) There is no dialogue when people stomp feet or run away with fingers in their ears when they dont get their way, or have to listen to another side, or concerns that differ from their own. It goes both ways, without dialogue there is no real meaningful communication. THAT is what is necessary, not screaming crying and hiding out from the reality that not everybody thinks like, or agrees with you - no matter now noble or right you think you are. That is life, that is the real world.

[Coco]

The tender little snowflakes are protesting, universities are having counselors brought in to help students deal with their emotional stress, professors are offering to allow students to skip mid terms if the election results have caused them too much emotional anguish. What the hell are these little darlings going to do in the real world?

Education is not such a bad thing you know. This anti-academic reactionary nonsense is a large part of why the country ended up with the two fuckwit presidential candidates it did.

These kids will inherit the fall out.

Porky.. Education is essential... I agree. However, dialogue is key. Dialogue requires input, ideas, and understanding that goes back and forth. You cannot speak your idea and then go running away or cover your ears when its your turn to listen and try to understand a different perspective than your own. Cramming your own idea of what is right down everyones throat, then being hurt, insulted or shocked somebody disagrees or just plain does not see it in the same light you do is ridiculous. We should take these petulant children serious, or should we be more open to dialogue... Even if it means somebody has to hear an idea that differs from their own?