Are there any films/tv shows where the US is the villain?

[WaspInWales]

Rowan.....sweet baby jesus are you digging the wrong hole.

So you've got to team up now because I've just taken Wasps apart and exposed his hypocrisy and lack of moral integrity time and again. Pathetic. Anyone can see through you.

Honestly, I don't think you're capable of taking apart two pieces of lego.

[Donny osmond]

If you bother to count it up you will find that I have accused a very small per centage of people on this forum of supporting evil, murderous regimes. The only ones I have accused of doing this are those who adopted a hostile stance in defence of evil, murderous regimes - such as yourself.

...

Throwing around accusations, lack of self-awareness and honesty, lying - this is all about you, which is because you are only capable of perceiving in others distorted reflections of yourself.

...

This tells us all we need to know about the nature of your character.

SEE?

[rowan]

They sure as shit wouldn't want to broadcast your thoughts as anti-American

'Anti-American' is an interesting accusation. It's like accusing somebody of being anti-British imperialism, anti-Nazi, anti-Apartheid, or anti-Zionism. In other words, the accuser would have to be an apologist for these evil, racist, mass-murdering regimes to feel the need to bandy about such ironic accusations in the first place.

"Anti-Americanism" has long been a pejorative, used to denigrate critics of an imperial system. But it is the opposite, "Americanism", which threatens a war on the world.

http://johnpilger.com/articles/american ... -the-world

Yes rowan, anyone with a different world view than yours is clearly an apologist for evil, racist, mass-murdering regimes

I've lost count of the number of times you have made that accusation to someone who disagrees with you...usually after they have shown you up or disputed one of your one-eyed posts.

I'm aware the quote is made by Pilger but you have expressed the ad hominem sentiments on countless occasions.

I could quite easily accuse you of supporting 'evil, racist, mass-murdering regimes' as you have shown support to a number of them but I won't,as it's rather boring.

As I've said before, your posts do the work for you so carry on. It's rather amusing.

Never forget, Rowan facilitates discussion, he doesn't make points to "win arguments" as that's too childish for him.

While the total sum of Donny's contribution to this forum is to chip away at those who do not think as he does. Immaturity personified

[morepork]

Is there a debating event in the Special Olympics?

[rowan]

This was the one that did it. Caught him right on the button and sent him reeling about like a drunkard, arms flailing desperately but ultimately in vain . . .

They sure as shit wouldn't want to broadcast your thoughts as anti-American

'Anti-American' is an interesting accusation. It's like accusing somebody of being anti-British imperialism, anti-Nazi, anti-Apartheid, or anti-Zionism. In other words, the accuser would have to be an apologist for these evil, racist, mass-murdering regimes to feel the need to bandy about such ironic accusations in the first place.

"Anti-Americanism" has long been a pejorative, used to denigrate critics of an imperial system. But it is the opposite, "Americanism", which threatens a war on the world.

http://johnpilger.com/articles/american ... -the-world

What a clever approach, accuse the accuser. But you are the one who stooped to the ad hominem sentiments yourself simply because your question wasn't asnwered the way you wanted it to be. You wanted to put words into the mouths of others to ease your conscience about the terrible crimes against humanity your own country is helping commit around the world.

& in your defense of American crimes against humanity you claimed I supported similar regimes. But this is no different to an apologist for the crimes of the British Empire pointing the finger at the natives and claiming they themselves are "savages," or apologists for Apartheid and Zionism claiming their victims are "terrorists." & then you have the audacity to accuse others of insulting those who do not agree with them

No other nation than the one your are effectively defending has killed 20 million people around the world since WWII, no other country has killed 10 million Muslims since the 1990s, no other country has been busy bombing seven other nations over the past decade, no other country has carried out "over 3000 major covert operations and 10,000 minor cover operations," no other country has 900 military bases in 134 countries around the world.

& this is just the tip of the icebeg, as the following video clip - itself almost a decade old now - indicates:

[canta_brian]

So in one paragraph you've stated you "could accuse me of this & that" but "won't" (a tactic lacking in valor, to say the least), and in the next you go right ahead and accuse me of what you just said you "could accuse me of" but wouldn't.

If you bother to count it up you will find that I have accused a very small per centage of people on this forum of supporting evil, murderous regimes. The only ones I have accused of doing this are those who adopted a hostile stance in defence of evil, murderous regimes - such as yourself. Amazing that you should try to deny it (a tactic lacking in valor, to say the least), when it is there and plain to see. That's what this discussion is all about, after all - your outrage that I did not give you the required answer on anti-American propaganda, and thereby failed to ease your conscience over the countless crimes against humanity America has committed all around the world, invariably with Britain's unquestioning support.

& pointing the finger at others is merely an attempt to divert attention from the greater issue at hand (a tactic lacking in valor, to say the least). A century ago people like you were defending the crimes of the British Empire by claiming the native peoples were all savages. It's the same thing. The US and Britain haven't changed at all; that's there and plain to see.

Yes, we know that Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists and and even former high ranking US military officers themselves hold no currency with the war crime apologists aboard when they expose the true horrors of American imperialism. I'm sure you won't lose any sleep over it anyway.

Like I said, I could accuse you of quite a few things, but I don't need to as you're doing such a fine job yourself.

You admit that you have thrown such accusations at others, but your complete lack of self-awareness and honesty results in your then lying about just how often you do it.

You then back that up by making a comment about pointing the finger at others. That is all you do. Point fingers and cast aspersions on others. You then follow that up by making up crap about what they think and feel, even if they have never shown any support to whatever you accuse them of.

You are too funny to take seriously, but fuck you are incredibly boring. Wah, wah evil, murderer, boo hoo pulitzer, 20 million, imperialist, empire, whine fucking whine, rant, ad nauseam

Can't wait for your next witless retort accusing me of all manners of horrors...but you're right, I won't be losing sleep over it [emoji38]

I could accuse you of a great deal more than I have too - but I won't.

Throwing around accusations, lack of self-awareness and honesty, lying - this is all about you, which is because you are only capable of perceiving in others distorted reflections of yourself.

" you are incredibly boring. Wah, wah evil, murderer, boo hoo pulitzer, 20 million, imperialist, empire "

Yes, we already know the deaths of 20 million human beings is boring for you, and that you think it's absurd for anyone to bring this up on a discussion about international politics - and the US in particular. We can see that you also find it somewhat amusing, and have no regard for the views of Pultizer Prize-winning writers who have risked life and limb to go to these war zones and actually report the truth about them. This tells us all we need to know about the nature of your character.

Rowan, could you quote the parts of WIW's posts that you think support the actions of America?

Genuine question, I would be interested in seeing from you the phrases that cause your polemic.

[morepork]

RELEASE THE FUCKING HOUNDS!

[rowan]

Are you denying that my rational response to the question he asked with this thread was met with hostility and derision? That's there and plain to see. & the tone is maintained through this discourse, increasingly so. "" you are incredibly boring. Wah, wah evil, murderer, boo hoo pulitzer, 20 million, imperialist, empire " - as an example. The proof's in the pudding, as the saying goes.

[canta_brian]

Are you denying that my rational response to the question he asked with this thread was met with hostility and derision? That's there and plain to see. & the tone is maintained through this discourse, increasingly so. "" you are incredibly boring. Wah, wah evil, murderer, boo hoo pulitzer, 20 million, imperialist, empire " - as an example. The proof's in the pudding, as the saying goes.

Put your paranoia to one side for a moment and answer the question. If you're able to do this the proof of the pudding would be in the eating.

[Donny osmond]

Yes rowan, anyone with a different world view than yours is clearly an apologist for evil, racist, mass-murdering regimes

I've lost count of the number of times you have made that accusation to someone who disagrees with you...usually after they have shown you up or disputed one of your one-eyed posts.

I'm aware the quote is made by Pilger but you have expressed the ad hominem sentiments on countless occasions.

I could quite easily accuse you of supporting 'evil, racist, mass-murdering regimes' as you have shown support to a number of them but I won't,as it's rather boring.

As I've said before, your posts do the work for you so carry on. It's rather amusing.

Never forget, Rowan facilitates discussion, he doesn't make points to "win arguments" as that's too childish for him.

While the total sum of Donny's contribution to this forum is to chip away at those who do not think as he does. Immaturity personified

YET ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE OF GROWN UP DISCUSSION WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE JUST GET OVER IT ALREADY

[Donny osmond]

mmm chips tho, I'm hungry

[rowan]

Are you denying that my rational response to the question he asked with this thread was met with hostility and derision? That's there and plain to see. & the tone is maintained through this discourse, increasingly so. "" you are incredibly boring. Wah, wah evil, murderer, boo hoo pulitzer, 20 million, imperialist, empire " - as an example. The proof's in the pudding, as the saying goes.

Put your paranoia to one side for a moment and answer the question. If you're able to do this the proof of the pudding would be in the eating.

I gave you a rational answer to your question and you replied with insults. You have the mentality of a bitchy schoolgirl and the courage of a mouse. Congratulations

[morepork]

....and the cock of a narwhal.

[canta_brian]

....and the cock of a narwhal.

You promised that was just between you and me...

[WaspInWales]

This was the one that did it. Caught him right on the button and sent him reeling about like a drunkard, arms flailing desperately but ultimately in vain . . .

Yes rowan, arms were flailed, in a desperate fashion, not too dissimilar to a drunkard. Alas, it was all in vain, ultimately.

Meanwhile, back in the real world

[canta_brian]

Are you denying that my rational response to the question he asked with this thread was met with hostility and derision? That's there and plain to see. & the tone is maintained through this discourse, increasingly so. "" you are incredibly boring. Wah, wah evil, murderer, boo hoo pulitzer, 20 million, imperialist, empire " - as an example. The proof's in the pudding, as the saying goes.

Put your paranoia to one side for a moment and answer the question. If you're able to do this the proof of the pudding would be in the eating.

I gave you a rational answer to your question and you replied with insults. You have the mentality of a bitchy schoolgirl and the courage of a mouse. Congratulations [emoji38]

Oh dear.

Once again women as a pejorative.

I don't know if you are simply a misogynist, or if you have spent your life having your advances spurned by women across the globe. Were the girls at school mean to poor diddums?

[WaspInWales]

Are you denying that my rational response to the question he asked with this thread was met with hostility and derision? That's there and plain to see. & the tone is maintained through this discourse, increasingly so. "" you are incredibly boring. Wah, wah evil, murderer, boo hoo pulitzer, 20 million, imperialist, empire " - as an example. The proof's in the pudding, as the saying goes.

Mocking your posting style is kinda tame in comparison to being labelled as a supporter of evil, murdering regimes.

That said, I honestly don't mind being labelled as such by you. I wear it as a badge of pride, knowing that like many others on here, I have managed to get under your skin and your only recourse is to accuse that person of being a war monger, or the like.

[rowan]

Put your paranoia to one side for a moment and answer the question. If you're able to do this the proof of the pudding would be in the eating.

I gave you a rational answer to your question and you replied with insults. You have the mentality of a bitchy schoolgirl and the courage of a mouse. Congratulations [emoji38]

Oh dear.

Once again women as a pejorative.

I don't know if you are simply a misogynist, or if you have spent your life having your advances spurned by women across the globe. Were the girls at school mean to poor diddums?

So much for your 'genuine question' approach. You never had any intention of engaging in a sensible discussion and I knew that from the start. That's because you too are a denialist for crimes against humanity - and then you have the audacity to talk about misogyny. It's taken you about five seconds to descend straight into infantile gaa gaa land...

[rowan]

Are you denying that my rational response to the question he asked with this thread was met with hostility and derision? That's there and plain to see. & the tone is maintained through this discourse, increasingly so. "" you are incredibly boring. Wah, wah evil, murderer, boo hoo pulitzer, 20 million, imperialist, empire " - as an example. The proof's in the pudding, as the saying goes.

Mocking your posting style is kinda tame in comparison to being labelled as a supporter of evil, murdering regimes.

That said, I honestly don't mind being labelled as such by you. I wear it as a badge of pride, knowing that like many others on here, I have managed to get under your skin and your only recourse is to accuse that person of being a war monger, or the like.

& you lack the intelligence and self-awareness to see the glaring irony in that comment

[WaspInWales]

I gave you a rational answer to your question and you replied with insults. You have the mentality of a bitchy schoolgirl and the courage of a mouse. Congratulations [emoji38]

Oh dear.

Once again women as a pejorative.

I don't know if you are simply a misogynist, or if you have spent your life having your advances spurned by women across the globe. Were the girls at school mean to poor diddums?

So much for your 'genuine question' approach. You never had any intention of engaging in a sensible discussion and I knew that from the start. That's because you too are a denialist for crimes against humanity - and then you have the audacity to talk about misogyny. It's taken you about five seconds to descend straight into infantile gaa gaa land...

Lol....see!

[canta_brian]

Oh dear.

Once again women as a pejorative.

I don't know if you are simply a misogynist, or if you have spent your life having your advances spurned by women across the globe. Were the girls at school mean to poor diddums?

So much for your 'genuine question' approach. You never had any intention of engaging in a sensible discussion and I knew that from the start. That's because you too are a denialist for crimes against humanity - and then you have the audacity to talk about misogyny. It's taken you about five seconds to descend straight into infantile gaa gaa land...

Lol....see!

Hooray! I got into the club!

[rowan]

So, who are the real misogynists aboard?





Oh dear, I think that final sentence describes everybody on this thread except me...

[Donny osmond]

I gave you a rational answer to your question and you replied with insults. You have the mentality of a bitchy schoolgirl and the courage of a mouse. Congratulations [emoji38]

Oh dear.

Once again women as a pejorative.

I don't know if you are simply a misogynist, or if you have spent your life having your advances spurned by women across the globe. Were the girls at school mean to poor diddums?

So much for your 'genuine question' approach. You never had any intention of engaging in a sensible discussion and I knew that from the start. That's because you too are a denialist for crimes against humanity - and then you have the audacity to talk about misogyny. It's taken you about five seconds to descend straight into infantile gaa gaa land...

I know you are I said you are but what am I?

[Donny osmond]

Are you denying that my rational response to the question he asked with this thread was met with hostility and derision? That's there and plain to see. & the tone is maintained through this discourse, increasingly so. "" you are incredibly boring. Wah, wah evil, murderer, boo hoo pulitzer, 20 million, imperialist, empire " - as an example. The proof's in the pudding, as the saying goes.

Mocking your posting style is kinda tame in comparison to being labelled as a supporter of evil, murdering regimes.

That said, I honestly don't mind being labelled as such by you. I wear it as a badge of pride, knowing that like many others on here, I have managed to get under your skin and your only recourse is to accuse that person of being a war monger, or the like.

& you lack the intelligence and self-awareness to see the glaring irony in that comment [emoji38]

I know you are I said you are but what am I?

[WaspInWales]

So, who are the real misogynists aboard?



Oh dear, I think that final sentence describes everybody on this thread except me...

PMSL...so now, everyone on here (bar you, of course) supports these wars?

Yay.

I've broken rowan