1872 Cup Champions

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The rest of the TOP 14 are looking at this situation with their pockets full of money...

Would a 33 yo Dupuy command that much? Is there not a salary cap now or is all that pretty much unenforceable?

Will he still want to play pro rugby? There is a salary cap.

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The rest of the TOP 14 are looking at this situation with their pockets full of money...

Would a 33 yo Dupuy command that much? Is there not a salary cap now or is all that pretty much unenforceable?

Will he still want to play pro rugby? There is a salary cap.

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Indeed. Still worth the question and a year or two of playing but also coaching may be attractive to him. I just thought it would be an idea to ask. Edinburgh need a senior 9 (amongst other things).

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While this applies to Glasgow as well I would hope that Cockerill & team are looking very closely at the potential fallout of this Stade & Racing merger. A lot of good players will be without a club.

I have been thinking about this, they have some experienced 9's that could be useful. Cockerill was assistant coach at Tigers when Dupuy was there. Nothing flash, but steady and could provide guidance to SHC for a season or two.

There must be a big bastard of a second row available too to replace Gilchrist for the right money.

Nakarawa will not be in Paris next year IMO.

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While this applies to Glasgow as well I would hope that Cockerill & team are looking very closely at the potential fallout of this Stade & Racing merger. A lot of good players will be without a club.

I have been thinking about this, they have some experienced 9's that could be useful. Cockerill was assistant coach at Tigers when Dupuy was there. Nothing flash, but steady and could provide guidance to SHC for a season or two.

There must be a big bastard of a second row available too to replace Gilchrist for the right money.

Nakarawa will not be in Paris next year IMO.

He plays for Racing!

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[hugh_woatmeigh]

Cosgrove to Bristol.

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Decent move for him. I suspect he'd have been offered a better looking overall deal than facing being Edinburgh 4th choice.

He went to college down that way so may have ties down there.

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Disappointed that Cosgrive is off, he's stood out in a poor team as one with potential. Bit of a logjam at lose head however assuming Dickinson and Sutherland come back from injury fine.

Am watching u20's atm and Graham looks electric at full-back, reminiscent of Hogg in many ways. Him, Kinghorn and Hoyland could actually be really exciting if we can get them in a bit of space.

Quite like the u20s scrum half too. Decent pass and snipes occasionally to hold the line.

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Disappointed that Cosgrive is off, he's stood out in a poor team as one with potential. Bit of a logjam at lose head however assuming Dickinson and Sutherland come back from injury fine.

Am watching u20's atm and Graham looks electric at full-back, reminiscent of Hogg in many ways. Him, Kinghorn and Hoyland could actually be really exciting if we can get them in a bit of space.

Quite like the u20s scrum half too. Decent pass and snipes occasionally to hold the line.

Yup, Graham has got some serious speed, and looks as if his pace could be better utilised--like Hogg's--at full back rather than on the wing.

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Bradbury was in a knee brace at the u20 game apparently.

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Ref for Edinburgh - La Rochelle : L. Pearce .

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Bradbury was in a knee brace at the u20 game apparently.

Thanks for the update.

I'm still baffled at how they have not announced anything about Dicko or Bradbury.

Glasgow updated on Vernon a few days ago & he's a bit part player for them. Dickinson & Bradbury are internationals and very important team players. It's piss poor fan engagement (I appreciate Edinburgh have no obligation to provide updates but still...)

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Bradbury was in a knee brace at the u20 game apparently.

Thanks for the update.

I'm still baffled at how they have not announced anything about Dicko or Bradbury.

Glasgow updated on Vernon a few days ago & he's a bit part player for them. Dickinson & Bradbury are internationals and very important team players. It's piss poor fan engagement (I appreciate Edinburgh have no obligation to provide updates but still...)

Edinburgh have been down this path before. They don't provide updates if there's a chance it will pressure a player to rush his rehab.

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It's a bit hard watching Piers Francis play super rugby for the Blues and Tovey and Weir play for us. I know hindsight is only one thing and not everything, but given where Harry Leonard was in his career and where Francis has gone, it's hard not to wonder how many 10s Alan Solomons killed in one felled swoop

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Francis has done well to turn his career back around. He's worked very hard. But he was rotten at Edinburgh from day 1.

I'm not convinced Leonard was as good as we remember. Especially given how quickly he has dropped down to Rosslyn Park level.

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It's a bit hard watching Piers Francis play super rugby for the Blues and Tovey and Weir play for us. I know hindsight is only one thing and not everything, but given where Harry Leonard was in his career and where Francis has gone, it's hard not to wonder how many 10s Alan Solomons killed in one felled swoop

Edinburgh really should have gone hard to get Hastings. Next year Glasgow will have 3 better 10s than Edinburgh's first choice. Potentially 4 if they sign Thomson.

Cockerill has a lot of work to do and a fly half should be top of his wish list.

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It's a bit hard watching Piers Francis play super rugby for the Blues and Tovey and Weir play for us. I know hindsight is only one thing and not everything, but given where Harry Leonard was in his career and where Francis has gone, it's hard not to wonder how many 10s Alan Solomons killed in one felled swoop

Edinburgh really should have gone hard to get Hastings. Next year Glasgow will have 3 better 10s than Edinburgh's first choice. Potentially 4 if they sign Thomson.

Cockerill has a lot of work to do and a fly half should be top of his wish list.

Final transfer decisions are ultimately the DoR's and transfer committees domain. Edinburgh and Glasgow share the same DoR so it is not all Edinburghs fault on that one.

With Finns contract up at the end of next season I can understand why Hastings has been signed by/for Glasgow and why he would go there.

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WP Nel resigns for 3 years. Great news.

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Was just about to post that.

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Good for all parties. Edinburgh/the SRU can manage his game time etc and he seems settled in Edinburgh and I would imagine he'll be very well paid.

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It's a bit hard watching Piers Francis play super rugby for the Blues and Tovey and Weir play for us. I know hindsight is only one thing and not everything, but given where Harry Leonard was in his career and where Francis has gone, it's hard not to wonder how many 10s Alan Solomons killed in one felled swoop

Edinburgh really should have gone hard to get Hastings. Next year Glasgow will have 3 better 10s than Edinburgh's first choice. Potentially 4 if they sign Thomson.

Cockerill has a lot of work to do and a fly half should be top of his wish list.

Final transfer decisions are ultimately the DoR's and transfer committees domain. Edinburgh and Glasgow share the same DoR so it is not all Edinburghs fault on that one.

With Finns contract up at the end of next season I can understand why Hastings has been signed by/for Glasgow and why he would go there.

Yup. Weir to Edinburgh was obviously pushed hard by Scott Johnson but the fact remains he is not good enough. Edinburgh need a solution & they need one fast if they want to break into the top 6.

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It's a bit hard watching Piers Francis play super rugby for the Blues and Tovey and Weir play for us. I know hindsight is only one thing and not everything, but given where Harry Leonard was in his career and where Francis has gone, it's hard not to wonder how many 10s Alan Solomons killed in one felled swoop

Edinburgh really should have gone hard to get Hastings. Next year Glasgow will have 3 better 10s than Edinburgh's first choice. Potentially 4 if they sign Thomson.

Cockerill has a lot of work to do and a fly half should be top of his wish list.

Final transfer decisions are ultimately the DoR's and transfer committees domain. Edinburgh and Glasgow share the same DoR so it is not all Edinburghs fault on that one.

With Finns contract up at the end of next season I can understand why Hastings has been signed by/for Glasgow and why he would go there.

If Lang at Quins continues to get game time down the stretch for them, I'd like to see us make a run at signing him out of the Quins academy. Scottish qualified, and I like everything I've seen from him. Got a nice turn of pace, kicks well and can play 10 and 12.

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Francis has done well to turn his career back around. He's worked very hard. But he was rotten at Edinburgh from day 1.

I'm not convinced Leonard was as good as we remember. Especially given how quickly he has dropped down to Rosslyn Park level.

You're right, of course, but Leonard was very young, and he certainly showed a lot of flashes. Fracis wasn't a game breaker, but he has turned into a very competent fly half, and god knows we've needed one of those.

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Hastings is nowhere near ready to be starting every week in the games I have seen so he wasn't (IMO) a solution for Edinburgh as a starter. Which then becomes a decision of where is he better benching with the odd start at Glasgow or Edinburgh. There is also a more strategic point, if he is to be Finns challenger/successor he needs to be put where it is best for him. JO'H looks to be a good backs coach so on many levels Glasgow is the best spot.

I actually think a steady 9 who can consistently get the ball into Weir hands at a normal level rather than high or low would be my priority. I still believe Weir can do a job for Edinburgh over the next year or two but any 10 needs better play from 9. Will Weir starting take Edinburgh to the play offs? No I don't believe so, but he can help get Edinburgh on an upward trajectory IMO. If Weir had a steady forward pack* and consistent play from 9 he'll do a job for a year or two IMO. I would be looking to bring in a 10 to challenge him, but a senior 9 would be my priority out of the 2.


*The Edinburgh pack at times have been missing including several at the same time; Ford, Dickinson, Nel, Sutherland, Dell, Cosgrove, Berghan, Bresler, Gilchrist, McKenzie, Hardie, Manu and Watson who could all be involved in match day 23's and then the likes of Fihaki and Mata who have missed a few games.

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Edinburgh really should have gone hard to get Hastings. Next year Glasgow will have 3 better 10s than Edinburgh's first choice. Potentially 4 if they sign Thomson.

Cockerill has a lot of work to do and a fly half should be top of his wish list.

Final transfer decisions are ultimately the DoR's and transfer committees domain. Edinburgh and Glasgow share the same DoR so it is not all Edinburghs fault on that one.

With Finns contract up at the end of next season I can understand why Hastings has been signed by/for Glasgow and why he would go there.

If Lang at Quins continues to get game time down the stretch for them, I'd like to see us make a run at signing him out of the Quins academy. Scottish qualified, and I like everything I've seen from him. Got a nice turn of pace, kicks well and can play 10 and 12.

That's not a bad shout.