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Re: Trump
UG, you know that polling data is nearly 2 months old, right?
Reuters' current data has Clinton 40.4%, Trump 31.5% in a head to head. http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_13/
Hope that helps.
Reuters' current data has Clinton 40.4%, Trump 31.5% in a head to head. http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_13/
Hope that helps.
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Re: Trump
He is most definitely a bottom... I bet he enjoys being dominated by his hot little wifey in the bedroom. No grunting or pajama bottoms allowed. (My own opinion of course)
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
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Re: Trump
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... elections/Lizard wrote:UG, you know that polling data is nearly 2 months old, right?
Reuters' current data has Clinton 40.4%, Trump 31.5% in a head to head. http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_13/
Hope that helps.
Hope that helps.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.
Mellsblue.
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Re: Trump
Well done for spotting up-to-date data.
What is your point? I wasn't taking sides, just noting your data was out of date. I'm no Hilary fan.
Reuters currently has Clinton only 0.4% ahead of Trump (as of 10 May). I can't see a Trump/Sanders head to head on their site.
What is your point? I wasn't taking sides, just noting your data was out of date. I'm no Hilary fan.
Reuters currently has Clinton only 0.4% ahead of Trump (as of 10 May). I can't see a Trump/Sanders head to head on their site.
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One point would be that a Hillary candidacy would mean that the vote would be close enough for the election to be stolen a la 2000 and 2004.Lizard wrote:Well done for spotting up-to-date data.
What is your point? I wasn't taking sides, just noting your data was out of date. I'm no Hilary fan.
Reuters currently has Clinton only 0.4% ahead of Trump (as of 10 May). I can't see a Trump/Sanders head to head on their site.
So the Clinton/DNC's voter suppression and electoral fraud tactics for La Clinton are playing into Republican hands.
And I've no doubt that the DNC, under the moronic management of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, is stupid enough to gift the Repubs the opportunity.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.
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Re: Trump
It won't be contested. They can just flip the tallies in a couple of big battleground states. That's what they did in 2004 and Kerry quickly conceded, even though the Ohio result was clearly manufactured.Lizard wrote:Now that would be fun. Two fairly equally loathsome candidates with a contested result. How does the SCOTUS bench split on hanging chads?
La Clinton is in no position to contest because her machine has been doing it in the primaries and will probably do some on the general, albeit in states that won't swing a close call in her favour.
And despite what the authoritarians in the other Fred would say, this isn't 'conspiracy theory' or conjecture. This is the reality of the polling system in the US.
It's crooked as fuck.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.
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Re: Trump
There are some (albeit individual states) numbers in here http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... nders-winsLizard wrote:Well done for spotting up-to-date data.
What is your point? I wasn't taking sides, just noting your data was out of date. I'm no Hilary fan.
Reuters currently has Clinton only 0.4% ahead of Trump (as of 10 May). I can't see a Trump/Sanders head to head on their site.
FLORIDA: Clinton 43 - Trump 42; Sanders 44 - Trump 42
OHIO: Clinton 39 - Trump 43; Sanders 43 - Trump 41
PENNSYLVANIA: Clinton 43 - Trump 42; Sanders 47 - Trump 41
Suggesting that these numbers do exist.
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Re: Trump
The DNC have acted like Clinton has a right to the presidency, and I think they are going to shoot themselves in the foot. Shillary and Trump both have extremely low approval ratings, but Shillary's has built up over a long period of time, is engrained and you feel will be harder to shake.
Meanwhile, Trump has moved on from courting the psychopath extremist republicans and already is starting to seem much more reasonable. Here's an article about him running to the left of Shillary in many instances, and there is also video floating around with him denouncing aggressive foreign policy and how he wants to turn enemies into friends (which is a dig at the US lining troops up near Nth Korea and Russian borders).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
He won't be a pushover.
Meanwhile, Trump has moved on from courting the psychopath extremist republicans and already is starting to seem much more reasonable. Here's an article about him running to the left of Shillary in many instances, and there is also video floating around with him denouncing aggressive foreign policy and how he wants to turn enemies into friends (which is a dig at the US lining troops up near Nth Korea and Russian borders).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
He won't be a pushover.
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Re: Trump
I'm not sure that "left" and "right" carry much meaning in relation to Trump.jared_7 wrote:The DNC have acted like Clinton has a right to the presidency, and I think they are going to shoot themselves in the foot. Shillary and Trump both have extremely low approval ratings, but Shillary's has built up over a long period of time, is engrained and you feel will be harder to shake.
Meanwhile, Trump has moved on from courting the psychopath extremist republicans and already is starting to seem much more reasonable. Here's an article about him running to the left of Shillary in many instances, and there is also video floating around with him denouncing aggressive foreign policy and how he wants to turn enemies into friends (which is a dig at the US lining troops up near Nth Korea and Russian borders).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
He won't be a pushover.
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Re: Trump
Would it really make a difference who was nominated then elected?
I honestly don't think there will be too much by way of change in US foreign policy with Trump or Clinton.
I honestly don't think there will be too much by way of change in US foreign policy with Trump or Clinton.
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How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.UGagain wrote:I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.
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Well they're certainly pulling out all the stops. You have to wonder why they're panicking. And can they control the super delegates?jared_7 wrote:How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.UGagain wrote:I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.
Expect (more) massive fraud in New Jersey and California.
The FBI might yet have a say in it.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.
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From prison? A rich person? in America?jared_7 wrote:How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.
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Did you see what happened in Nevada? Unbelievable (well, maybe not)UGagain wrote:Well they're certainly pulling out all the stops. You have to wonder why they're panicking. And can they control the super delegates?jared_7 wrote:How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.UGagain wrote:I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.
Expect (more) massive fraud in New Jersey and California.
The FBI might yet have a say in it.
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Re: Trump
All that violence that didn't actually happen?jared_7 wrote:Did you see what happened in Nevada? Unbelievable (well, maybe not)UGagain wrote:Well they're certainly pulling out all the stops. You have to wonder why they're panicking. And can they control the super delegates?jared_7 wrote:
How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.
Expect (more) massive fraud in New Jersey and California.
The FBI might yet have a say in it.
The DNC is nuts.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.
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Re: Trump
Trump down with the people eating KFC....on a plate, with a knife and fork....on his private jet: