First Nations & Pasifika XV v British & Irish Lions - Tuesday 22 July Kick-off: 11.00 BST

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Re: First Nations & Pasifika XV v British & Irish Lions - Tuesday 22 July Kick-off: 11.00 BST

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Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:05 pm
Donny osmond wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:48 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:19 pm

His chip for Osbornes try was excellent, and a nice dummy and assist for Duhan. But he looked stilted a lot of the time.
Have to disagree on the chip, it bounced into Osbournes arms, any other bounce and its a wasted possession. The dummy and give for VDM was class tho.
Yeah the replay from behind the posts does make it look incredibly fortunate, with a couple of Aussies in cover and Osborne not even that close to where the ball initially lands.

Still, it was a try in the end so hard to argue too much. I’m constantly torn in not wanting to tear the guy down but being baffled by the OTT praise. Even the pass for the Duhan try you’d think might register as being a f**k-up if he hadn’t done it.
I rewatched it and it was very well done imo. Yeah can say lucky bounce but it landed where no defender could field it on the full, and enough height for a decent bounce, and off his left foot. The harder you practice etc etc
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Re: First Nations & Pasifika XV v British & Irish Lions - Tuesday 22 July Kick-off: 11.00 BST

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Banquo wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:56 pm
Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:38 pm Barclay looking on awkwardly as a pair of 100 cap flyhalves cream their pants over that Farrell performance. Weird. I guess we really will never understand it.

I saw several moments where he looked calm and kept his shoulders square, sure, but tended to stand completely still and just pop it to somebody else who was hardly moving either.

Most of it was… fine (except the stupid grubbers) but I can’t understand how this is prompting reactions like ‘test match animal. Get him in the 23’ from people like McGeechan.
his passing and timing of run and pass just can look so stilted. Sure he does some good stuff- even great, left footed chip for Osborne try was bloody good. But the jisming...and ignoring the shit stuff, two awful passes out the back....two missed tackles. He was ok today in the main, but with some amateur bits.
It's the passes out the back. They are excruciating. So poorly executed they take the team by surprise.

We're in their 22, attacking lineout. He messes up the drag-back and we get turned over. Simply shipping it down the line probably results in a try, not a word is said.

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Meanwhile he converts a 2-on-1 and ROG is creaming himself.
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Re: First Nations & Pasifika XV v British & Irish Lions - Tuesday 22 July Kick-off: 11.00 BST

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Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:05 pm
Donny osmond wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:48 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:19 pm

His chip for Osbornes try was excellent, and a nice dummy and assist for Duhan. But he looked stilted a lot of the time.
Have to disagree on the chip, it bounced into Osbournes arms, any other bounce and its a wasted possession. The dummy and give for VDM was class tho.
Yeah the replay from behind the posts does make it look incredibly fortunate, with a couple of Aussies in cover and Osborne not even that close to where the ball initially lands.

Still, it was a try in the end so hard to argue too much. I’m constantly torn in not wanting to tear the guy down but being baffled by the OTT praise. Even the pass for the Duhan try you’d think might register as being a f**k-up if he hadn’t done it.
Twas a 2 on 1 after all...
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Re: First Nations & Pasifika XV v British & Irish Lions - Tuesday 22 July Kick-off: 11.00 BST

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R3dders wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:22 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:56 pm
Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:38 pm Barclay looking on awkwardly as a pair of 100 cap flyhalves cream their pants over that Farrell performance. Weird. I guess we really will never understand it.

I saw several moments where he looked calm and kept his shoulders square, sure, but tended to stand completely still and just pop it to somebody else who was hardly moving either.

Most of it was… fine (except the stupid grubbers) but I can’t understand how this is prompting reactions like ‘test match animal. Get him in the 23’ from people like McGeechan.
his passing and timing of run and pass just can look so stilted. Sure he does some good stuff- even great, left footed chip for Osborne try was bloody good. But the jisming...and ignoring the shit stuff, two awful passes out the back....two missed tackles. He was ok today in the main, but with some amateur bits.
It's the passes out the back. They are excruciating. So poorly executed they take the team by surprise.

We're in their 22, attacking lineout. He messes up the drag-back and we get turned over. Simply shipping it down the line probably results in a try, not a word is said.

Image

Meanwhile he converts a 2-on-1 and ROG is creaming himself.
Yus. It’s all so odd
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Re: First Nations & Pasifika XV v British & Irish Lions - Tuesday 22 July Kick-off: 11.00 BST

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R3dders wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:22 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:56 pm
Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:38 pm Barclay looking on awkwardly as a pair of 100 cap flyhalves cream their pants over that Farrell performance. Weird. I guess we really will never understand it.

I saw several moments where he looked calm and kept his shoulders square, sure, but tended to stand completely still and just pop it to somebody else who was hardly moving either.

Most of it was… fine (except the stupid grubbers) but I can’t understand how this is prompting reactions like ‘test match animal. Get him in the 23’ from people like McGeechan.
his passing and timing of run and pass just can look so stilted. Sure he does some good stuff- even great, left footed chip for Osborne try was bloody good. But the jisming...and ignoring the shit stuff, two awful passes out the back....two missed tackles. He was ok today in the main, but with some amateur bits.
It's the passes out the back. They are excruciating. So poorly executed they take the team by surprise.

We're in their 22, attacking lineout. He messes up the drag-back and we get turned over. Simply shipping it down the line probably results in a try, not a word is said.

Image

Meanwhile he converts a 2-on-1 and ROG is creaming himself.
There was also a moment where a long pass off his left hand is a run in down the right. But he can’t do that without a big wind up, so died with it. Pfft
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Re: First Nations & Pasifika XV v British & Irish Lions - Tuesday 22 July Kick-off: 11.00 BST

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Banquo wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 10:34 pm
Donny osmond wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:48 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:19 pm

His chip for Osbornes try was excellent, and a nice dummy and assist for Duhan. But he looked stilted a lot of the time.
Have to disagree on the chip, it bounced into Osbournes arms, any other bounce and its a wasted possession. The dummy and give for VDM was class tho.
I’ll happily disagree again 😂. Excellent bit of skill, left foot landed it where both chasers had a chance.
:D fair enough
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