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Coco wrote:Wow... I called Cashead out earlier on his inability to refrain from abusive and racist remarks and he continued. Would be nice not to be attacked and verbally abused while trying to learn and have open dialogue with other posters that dont feel threatened by questions and differing views.

I am no shrinking violet but enough is enough. The guy has NO coping skills or self control much less TOLERANCE for anyone different thinking than him... ironic cos he preaches tolerance and equality out of the other side of his ass.

Anyone care to let me know why his verbal abuse is tolerated?
Here's the hill you chose to die on.
cashead wrote:So yeah, feel free to ponder the racial and gender politics of a board made up predominantly of old white men scrutinising and litigating every inch of a black woman's body and her reproductive organs. I know what conclusion I'm drawing.
Your argument literally is "pondering the racial politics of something that is a bad look equates to racism," so feel free to give the pearl-clutching concern troll act a rest any time.

Got any other SPICY HOT TAKES you'd like to share with us?
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Coco wrote:Wow... I called Cashead out earlier on his inability to refrain from abusive and racist remarks and he continued. Would be nice not to be attacked and verbally abused while trying to learn and have open dialogue with other posters that dont feel threatened by questions and differing views.

I am no shrinking violet but enough is enough. The guy has NO coping skills or self control much less TOLERANCE for anyone different thinking than him... ironic cos he preaches tolerance and equality out of the other side of his ass.

Anyone care to let me know why his verbal abuse is tolerated?
Just for clarity, are you claiming you have been a target of racism from this poster? This thread is entirely about tolerance of difference and the understanding thereof. Do you feel Cashead has redirected the narrative towards a criticism of you personally? He is offering an informed perspective, albeit profane, of the subject matter at hand. Are you representative of the minority group originally resented by this thread or are you claiming that your majority status is threatened by the discussion? Would you rather your view of the actual minority group be the template for debate? You seem to be sailing towards a logical fallacy low tide. I accept that being verbally abused is not on, but I am concerned at the implication of you being the victim here.
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cashead wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:Cas,

Wind it in mate.
Really? He got the response he deserved with his sealioning bullshit.

Also, if you’re expecting me to play nice with someone who felt entitled to use a pejorative directed at me in the past, then with all due respect, I would say that you can go fuck yourself. If that is the case.
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morepork wrote:
Coco wrote:Wow... I called Cashead out earlier on his inability to refrain from abusive and racist remarks and he continued. Would be nice not to be attacked and verbally abused while trying to learn and have open dialogue with other posters that dont feel threatened by questions and differing views.

I am no shrinking violet but enough is enough. The guy has NO coping skills or self control much less TOLERANCE for anyone different thinking than him... ironic cos he preaches tolerance and equality out of the other side of his ass.

Anyone care to let me know why his verbal abuse is tolerated?
Just for clarity, are you claiming you have been a target of racism from this poster? This thread is entirely about tolerance of difference and the understanding thereof. Do you feel Cashead has redirected the narrative towards a criticism of you personally? He is offering an informed perspective, albeit profane, of the subject matter at hand. Are you representative of the minority group originally resented by this thread or are you claiming that your majority status is threatened by the discussion? Would you rather your view of the actual minority group be the template for debate? You seem to be sailing towards a logical fallacy low tide. I accept that being verbally abused is not on, but I am concerned at the implication of you being the victim here.
Cashead's comment presuming the race and gender of board members of the IAAF or CAS were not "informed" perspectives... they were presumptions. He accused the board/panel of denying Ms. Semenya on the basis of her race... and gender. If he bothered to inform himself and actually look at the legal documents from The Court of Arbitration for Sport, with regard to Caster Semenya's requests for arbitration, he would have understood that the President of the panel was a woman - The Hon. Dr. Annabelle Bennett AO SC. Since she is female, I am going out on a limb here that she is not a racist white man. Second of the 4 on the panel was The Hon. Hugh L. Fraser (ret). Here is his picture:
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Does he look like a old white man to you?

My so-called majority status was not even part of the discussion, and Im not sure how I would feel it was being threatened. Maybe you can elaborate what you are insinuating.

A template for a debate sort of defeats the benefits of dialogue.

As far as you saying "this thread is entirely about tolerance of difference and the understanding thereof" with a straight face, while continuing to look the other way when Cashead incessantly crosses the line is rich.
My opinion of course.

I love you Porkster, but nowhere in my rant was I trying to claim to be a victim. I was pointing out that Cashead's verbal abuse crosses the line of being "profane", as you call it, and goes beyond. That it has been tolerated this long is disappointing. The tolerance of difference and understanding thereof only applies to some, apparently.
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Do you know what "predominantly" means?
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cashead wrote:
Here's the hill you chose to die on.
cashead wrote:So yeah, feel free to ponder the racial and gender politics of a board made up predominantly of old white men scrutinising and litigating every inch of a black woman's body and her reproductive organs. I know what conclusion I'm drawing.
Your argument literally is "pondering the racial politics of something that is a bad look equates to racism," so feel free to give the pearl-clutching concern troll act a rest any time.

Got any other SPICY HOT TAKES you'd like to share with us?
Oh dear... this didnt age well.
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cashead wrote:Do you know what "predominantly" means?
I do... do you?
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To be fair, Coco, if you take the 4-person panel and break it down into its 12 component parts (i.e. 4 parts each of old/young, white/black and male/female) the predominant characteristics are old, white and male. Once you throw in the pesky XY, XX, XxY, XyY and YYZ (This is the Toronto gene that gives rise to the characteristic of being so fucking boring that it’s a wonder they ever reproduce) genetic variants and acknowledge that two of the panel recently holidayed in the Seychelles while another has had a recent bout of jaundice, not to mention that 70 is, apparently, the new 30 ...? Well the whole thing is just a fecking nightmare and Cashead is a wee scutter with a gub like a Neapolitan sewer so why get upset?
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This thread has given me brain damage.
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Mikey Brown wrote:This thread has given me brain damage.
You're not pinning that on us!
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Sandydragon wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:This thread has given me brain damage.
You're not pinning that on us!
Fine. Exacerbated then.

Pedant.
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Jesus fuck....


some of me best mates are black/trans/american, but....
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Sandydragon wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:This thread has given me brain damage.
You're not pinning that on us!
That's what she said (whilst partially transitioned)
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Coco wrote:
cashead wrote:Do you know what "predominantly" means?
I do... do you?
Based on a quick skim reading of the page it does seem Cas thinks 50% equates to the greater part. And before anyone gets upset I am of course using the word thinks in the loosest possible sense.
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SerjeantWildgoose wrote:To be fair, Coco, if you take the 4-person panel and break it down into its 12 component parts (i.e. 4 parts each of old/young, white/black and male/female) the predominant characteristics are old, white and male. Once you throw in the pesky XY, XX, XxY, XyY and YYZ (This is the Toronto gene that gives rise to the characteristic of being so fucking boring that it’s a wonder they ever reproduce) genetic variants and acknowledge that two of the panel recently holidayed in the Seychelles while another has had a recent bout of jaundice, not to mention that 70 is, apparently, the new 30 ...? Well the whole thing is just a fecking nightmare and Cashead is a wee scutter with a gub like a Neapolitan sewer so why get upset?
The Toronto gene... lol.... God love ya Serj. :D
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Just checking in from a spanish hotel pool and giving myself a massive high five on how this thread has gone.

It occurs to me, now that we've introduced race, what if I as a white man decide I've been in the wrong body my whole life and want to live as and be treated as a black man. Presumably you all are gonna have to accept me as a black man now?

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Donny osmond wrote:Just checking in from a spanish hotel pool and giving myself a massive high five on how this thread has gone.

It occurs to me, now that we've introduced race, what if I as a white man decide I've been in the wrong body my whole life and want to live as and be treated as a black man. Presumably you all are gonna have to accept me as a black man now?

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Donny osmond wrote:Just checking in from a spanish hotel pool and giving myself a massive high five on how this thread has gone.

It occurs to me, now that we've introduced race, what if I as a white man decide I've been in the wrong body my whole life and want to live as and be treated as a black man. Presumably you all are gonna have to accept me as a black man now?

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Puja wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:Just checking in from a spanish hotel pool and giving myself a massive high five on how this thread has gone.

It occurs to me, now that we've introduced race, what if I as a white man decide I've been in the wrong body my whole life and want to live as and be treated as a black man. Presumably you all are gonna have to accept me as a black man now?

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No shit.
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Stom wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:Just checking in from a spanish hotel pool and giving myself a massive high five on how this thread has gone.

It occurs to me, now that we've introduced race, what if I as a white man decide I've been in the wrong body my whole life and want to live as and be treated as a black man. Presumably you all are gonna have to accept me as a black man now?

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I will... go on with your bad self Donny.

Isnt giving yourself a massive high 5 in public frowned upon over there?

I remember this woman.. I think it was her own parents that outted her.
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Puja wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:Just checking in from a spanish hotel pool and giving myself a massive high five on how this thread has gone.

It occurs to me, now that we've introduced race, what if I as a white man decide I've been in the wrong body my whole life and want to live as and be treated as a black man. Presumably you all are gonna have to accept me as a black man now?

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This does seem a way to solve the supposed migration crisis on the Mexican border if everyone is willing to claim they identify as white
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Bugger off for a week and come back to an old school RR thread. Good sh*t.

The most pressing issue, however, is can trans people swim?
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zer0 wrote:Bugger off for a week and come back to an old school RR thread. Good sh*t.

The most pressing issue, however, is can trans people swim?
Can swimmers transition, you rayciss lazy JAFA.
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What is "arguing in bad faith" ........


Donny osmond wrote:Just checking in from a spanish hotel pool and giving myself a massive high five on how this thread has gone.

It occurs to me, now that we've introduced race, what if I as a white man decide I've been in the wrong body my whole life and want to live as and be treated as a black man. Presumably you all are gonna have to accept me as a black man now?

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Coco wrote:
Stom wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:Just checking in from a spanish hotel pool and giving myself a massive high five on how this thread has gone.

It occurs to me, now that we've introduced race, what if I as a white man decide I've been in the wrong body my whole life and want to live as and be treated as a black man. Presumably you all are gonna have to accept me as a black man now?

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I will... go on with your bad self Donny.

Isnt giving yourself a massive high 5 in public frowned upon over there?

I remember this woman.. I think it was her own parents that outted her.
I expect white people would struggle to get away with it.

I was thinking about that lady when I posted. I remember wondering when she was in the news, why we are bound to unquestioningly accept when someone wants to change gender but when someone wants to change skin colour, thats a MAJOR no no.

After all, that white lady had a hell of a lot more in common, biologically, with a black lady than she does with a white man. But one of those transitions is acceptable and understandable to the point where you're a bigot if you dont accept it, but the other is unacceptable and really just weird, even tho its really a much smaller transition.

As to why thats a contemplation thats in bad faith or a false equivalence, I dont know.

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