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The difficulties of environmental science...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 082449.htm
The study, published this month in Conservation Science and Practice, analyzed cryptic mortality of right whales. Cryptic mortality refers to deaths resulting from human activities that do not result in an observed carcass....
The scientists concluded that known deaths of the critically endangered species accounted for only 36% of all estimated death from 1990 to 2017.
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Don't know if this is real, although no reason to suspect it isn't. It tells its own story.Image

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Donny osmond wrote:Don't know if this is real, although no reason to suspect it isn't. It tells its own story.
No reason to doubt it.
From what I can tell...
CO2 acting as a greenhouse gas was discovered in 1859 (John Tyndall).
CO2 (specifically from burning fossil fuels) influencing the global climate was theorised in 1896 (Svante Arrhenius).
"Global warming" first proven in 1938, with CO2 identified as the likely culprit (Guy Callendar).
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New Zealand’s sea turtle bycatch tripled in the fishing year 2020 - 2021, based on the previous decade average. The majority of the turtles caught were critically endangered leatherback turtles

http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/5/405526
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"Record profits are salt in the wound when we’ve seen that fossil fuel companies have successfully lobbied G20 governments for $151bn on top of their profit.

They also spend nearly $200m a year lobbying to delay policies to tackle climate change."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... dApp_Other
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When Extreme Weather Reigns, Disinformation Pours
As heatwaves, heavy rainfall, and flooding hit countries worldwide, climate deniers and those obstructing climate action deny or downplay extreme weather’s climate connection.

https://www.desmog.com/2022/07/29/extre ... wildfires/
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/23 ... the-world/

“There is nothing in world climatic history which is even minimally comparable to what is happening in China.”



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I imagine something similar could be said about the current flooding in Pakistan too.

We're not far off the times when 100s of millions of people decide to move to land with fewer extreme weather issues. The precipice we're currently falling from isn't just an environmental one, it's a humanitarian one.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... sea-level/

When you look into the amount of ice that is melting off the Greenland ice sheet alone, not including either of the polar caps or the glaciers in Europe/Asia/America, just Greenland, it is genuinely mind blowing.

A new study was apparently just released today in Nature Climate Change, finding that it's now inevitable that 110,000,000,000,000 tons of ice will melt in Greenland.

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Donny osmond wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... sea-level/

When you look into the amount of ice that is melting off the Greenland ice sheet alone, not including either of the polar caps or the glaciers in Europe/Asia/America, just Greenland, it is genuinely mind blowing.

A new study was apparently just released today in Nature Climate Change, finding that it's now inevitable that 110,000,000,000,000 tons of ice will melt in Greenland.

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I'll have a large G and T with that. Have to drown your sorrows with this crap going on, and the big producers of greenhouse gases doing fuck all to stop.
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Banquo wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... sea-level/

When you look into the amount of ice that is melting off the Greenland ice sheet alone, not including either of the polar caps or the glaciers in Europe/Asia/America, just Greenland, it is genuinely mind blowing.

A new study was apparently just released today in Nature Climate Change, finding that it's now inevitable that 110,000,000,000,000 tons of ice will melt in Greenland.

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I'll have a large G and T with that. Have to drown your sorrows with this crap going on, and the big producers of greenhouse gases doing fuck all to stop.
You've inspired me to have a large bourbon

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Donny osmond wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... sea-level/

When you look into the amount of ice that is melting off the Greenland ice sheet alone, not including either of the polar caps or the glaciers in Europe/Asia/America, just Greenland, it is genuinely mind blowing.

A new study was apparently just released today in Nature Climate Change, finding that it's now inevitable that 110,000,000,000,000 tons of ice will melt in Greenland.

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I'll have a large G and T with that. Have to drown your sorrows with this crap going on, and the big producers of greenhouse gases doing fuck all to stop.
You've inspired me to have a large bourbon

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plenty of rocks coming from the north and south pole
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An 'interesting' start to September...
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Summit Station in Greenland, at an elevation of more than 3,200 meters (10,500 feet), surpassed the melting point for the first time on record in September on the afternoon of September 3

http://nsidc.org/greenland-today/
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This is the state of our sea surface temperatures as of early September 2022.

The North Atlantic is breaking records.

red = warmer than average
blue = cooler than average.
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hope...
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Maybe another country he's the head of state for, could re-invite him - Fiji perhaps?
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We had our chance to make incremental changes, but that time is over. Only a root-and-branch transformation of our economies and societies can save us from accelerating climate disaster.
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s44160-022-00196-0
This finding demonstrates efficient photoelectrochemical CO2-to-fuel production coupled to plastic-to-chemical conversion as a promising and sustainable technology powered by sunlight.
... *whispers* please God, pleeeease
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Donny osmond wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:58 pm https://www.nature.com/articles/s44160-022-00196-0
This finding demonstrates efficient photoelectrochemical CO2-to-fuel production coupled to plastic-to-chemical conversion as a promising and sustainable technology powered by sunlight.
... *whispers* please God, pleeeease
We could do with some good news. Hope this process is efficient enough and scalable enough to be useful for the environment, particularly in carbon capture.
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If it sounds too good to be true... I'll keep my cynicism hat on.
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Meanwhile, notching it's way up..🌅
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-65518528
not workable - the toaster beckons.
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Death Valley CA predicted to hit 55 C this weekend. Rellies in Sardinia say they looking at 48 C.

Shitballs.
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The heatwave currently encompassing most of the northern hemisphere is woefully underreported and genuinely, er, chilling.
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