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Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:29 pm
by gthedog
welshsaint wrote:Find it ironically amusing that Jones refers to Arthur or Martha, which is a long held gay taunt.
Yeah that was brilliant
He's even more value than Gats was for being a dumbass when he speaks
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:33 am
by Curry Puff
welshsaint wrote:Find it ironically amusing that Jones refers to Arthur or Martha, which is a long held gay taunt.
Certainly looks like an outbreak of foot in mouth disease, they should both have had the sense to stay very very quiet. Now they both look very very stupid.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:01 am
by Sandydragon
Curry Puff wrote:welshsaint wrote:Find it ironically amusing that Jones refers to Arthur or Martha, which is a long held gay taunt.
Certainly looks like an outbreak of foot in mouth disease, they should both have had the sense to stay very very quiet. Now they both look very very stupid.
Entirely agree. Sometimes not making a statement is more effective. Either way, trading verbal blows between two national coaches over an issue like this just looks a bit tawdry. After his intervention earlier in the week. Gatland should seriously consider when to keep his mouth shut.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:33 am
by Numbers
Sandydragon wrote:Curry Puff wrote:welshsaint wrote:Find it ironically amusing that Jones refers to Arthur or Martha, which is a long held gay taunt.
Certainly looks like an outbreak of foot in mouth disease, they should both have had the sense to stay very very quiet. Now they both look very very stupid.
Entirely agree. Sometimes not making a statement is more effective. Either way, trading verbal blows between two national coaches over an issue like this just looks a bit tawdry. After his intervention earlier in the week. Gatland should seriously consider when to keep his mouth shut.
I agree, I don't think Gatland is an appropriate mouthpiece for the WRU, he lacks the media savvy for a start.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:46 pm
by whatisthejava
DOes anyone want to play the racist drinking game
Its really simple
When John Invertwat mentions this happened and then instantly asks Gusgott for his opinion (because he is black ) - drink
There is no winner, just an emptiness
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:56 pm
by Sourdust
I agree that Gatland should have kept schtum, but I think I can see how he was trapped into saying something. He would have been desperate to avoid looking like he was grasping at straws after a bad performance. We've all seen it before; players, coaches and fans being castigated for "sour grapes" etc. when protesting something obviously bad immediately after a defeat. So when given the chance to put the boot into England, he thought better of it and decided to say something conciliatory instead, hoping to be seen as defusing the situation and not attempting to deflect blame from himself. In many other circumstances he would have received credit for such an approach. Here, obviously, it was a bad call and "no comment" was really the only response which would have worked.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:59 pm
by Sandydragon
whatisthejava wrote:DOes anyone want to play the racist drinking game
Its really simple
When John Invertwat mentions this happened and then instantly asks Gusgott for his opinion (because he is black ) - drink
There is no winner, just an emptiness
I think you could get moderately p*ssed following those rules.
An alternative is to drink every time Inverdale gets excited about the potential for the first English GS in over a decade. That should get you totally wasted.
Nothing against the English team who have been the best consistently this 6N and deserve to win it. But the media is going to go into overdrive by the end of Saturday. I may have to avoid the papers for several weeks.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:01 pm
by Sandydragon
Sourdust wrote:I agree that Gatland should have kept schtum, but I think I can see how he was trapped into saying something. He would have been desperate to avoid looking like he was grasping at straws after a bad performance. We've all seen it before; players, coaches and fans being castigated for "sour grapes" etc. when protesting something obviously bad immediately after a defeat. So when given the chance to put the boot into England, he thought better of it and decided to say something conciliatory instead, hoping to be seen as defusing the situation and not attempting to deflect blame from himself. In many other circumstances he would have received credit for such an approach. Here, obviously, it was a bad call and "no comment" was really the only response which would have worked.
He would have been better off, in my opinion, stating some thing like 'Marler apologies to Lee and as far as the team is concerned that's the end of the matter. We have a big game to prepare for, blah blah blah, and we will let the rugby authorities do their thing. In other news, rumours that there are players in possession of compromising photographs involving myself, Rob Howley and several farmyard animals are compleely false and in no way do they influence selection'.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:33 pm
by kk67
I've been homophobic on the pitch. Blokey tackling me got a handful of my 'nards.....I shout loudly, 'get off my b*llocks ,you f*cking Poof'. He let go.
True story.
I'm with Nighty......f*ck this sh*t. This is full contact sport....of course it's going to get fractious.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:01 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Sourdust wrote:I agree that Gatland should have kept schtum, but I think I can see how he was trapped into saying something. He would have been desperate to avoid looking like he was grasping at straws after a bad performance. We've all seen it before; players, coaches and fans being castigated for "sour grapes" etc. when protesting something obviously bad immediately after a defeat. So when given the chance to put the boot into England, he thought better of it and decided to say something conciliatory instead, hoping to be seen as defusing the situation and not attempting to deflect blame from himself. In many other circumstances he would have received credit for such an approach. Here, obviously, it was a bad call and "no comment" was really the only response which would have worked.
I'm pretty sure that the "banter" comment came a couple of days after the game and even after his initial reaction to the comment. He'd done pretty well in his first comments and then stuffed it up.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:24 pm
by gthedog
kk67 wrote:I've been homophobic on the pitch. Blokey tackling me got a handful of my 'nards.....I shout loudly, 'get off my b*llocks ,you f*cking Poof'. He let go.
True story.
I'm with Nighty......f*ck this sh*t. This is full contact sport....of course it's going to get fractious.
Did he buy you a drink after or you him?
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:43 pm
by kk67
gthedog wrote:kk67 wrote:I've been homophobic on the pitch. Blokey tackling me got a handful of my 'nards.....I shout loudly, 'get off my b*llocks ,you f*cking Poof'. He let go.
True story.
I'm with Nighty......f*ck this sh*t. This is full contact sport....of course it's going to get fractious.
Did he buy you a drink after or you him?
He was a handsome young lad,.......pretty boys always have issues.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:52 pm
by gthedog
kk67 wrote:gthedog wrote:kk67 wrote:I've been homophobic on the pitch. Blokey tackling me got a handful of my 'nards.....I shout loudly, 'get off my b*llocks ,you f*cking Poof'. He let go.
True story.
I'm with Nighty......f*ck this sh*t. This is full contact sport....of course it's going to get fractious.
Did he buy you a drink after or you him?
He was a handsome young lad,.......pretty boys always have issues.
You bought then you tart
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:59 pm
by kk67
gthedog wrote:kk67 wrote:gthedog wrote:
Did he buy you a drink after or you him?
He was a handsome young lad,.......pretty boys always have issues.
You bought then you tart
I have also accidentally been the deliverer of a cheap shot to the bollys. It does happen.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:34 am
by francoisfou
Wasn't former Welsh coach Gareth Jenkins called 'gypo' a few years back by his fellow countrymen??
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:52 am
by Sandydragon
francoisfou wrote:Wasn't former Welsh coach Gareth Jenkins called 'gypo' a few years back by his fellow countrymen??
He was. And I think many of us admit that was out of order.
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:04 am
by Billyfish
whatisthejava wrote:DOes anyone want to play the racist drinking game
Its really simple
When John Invertwat mentions this happened and then instantly asks Gusgott for his opinion (because he is black ) - drink
There is no winner, just an emptiness
When are we getting a "rep" button?
Like!
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:28 pm
by gthedog
Well this is still trundling on
World Rugby making a decision at some point in the future. RFU looking elsewhere and the Six Nations (whoever and whatever they are) are mute
Could have been decided at the original citing for the bloody elbow that clearly wasn't because it was really a kiss from his elbow to the face
Re: Racism in rugby
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:17 pm
by Sandydragon
Billyfish wrote:whatisthejava wrote:DOes anyone want to play the racist drinking game
Its really simple
When John Invertwat mentions this happened and then instantly asks Gusgott for his opinion (because he is black ) - drink
There is no winner, just an emptiness
When are we getting a "rep" button?
Like!
And it did actually happen. Good old predictable Invertw@.