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Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:36 pm
by Puja
We look rusty and a bit out of sorts - so many occasions where players are looking for someone on their shoulder, or looking for the pull-back but someone's run the wrong line and got in the way (or charging up in defence and leaving a massive hole, or screwing up defensive spacing, for example) - but that's all to be expected from such a limited training time and new systems.

What's pleasing is that we look like we're here to play rugby and are doing things other than trying to outman the opposition with our muscles or play safe and wait for their mistakes.

Good half and, looked at on the stats, one we've dominated. Two defensive screw-ups leading to two tries, plus 4 points of easy kicks missed. Could quite easily be 17-0 up on another day.

Puja

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:36 pm
by fivepointer
2 shocking tries to concede but we've scored 2 good ones and looked sharp and inventive in attack. I like the attitude and the intent.
Coming back and taking the lead before h/t was fully deserved and reward for showing some ambition.

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:37 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
FKAS wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:35 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:33 pm
Stom wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:30 pm

We’ve looked good, imo. We’ve given away a couple of crap penalties and 2 awful defensive mistakes. But we’ve played the game in the right places and with the right intensity

For a large part we’ve played very slowly with static runners. We started brightly. Then hit attacking treacle. And then finished with pace and found it actually worked.

I’ve spent most of the half shouting at JVP to get the ball out and for the forwards to get into position.
Have you noticed he's looking for Smith? Smith is calling which sides to go and where he wants the ball but either JVP is struggling to hear him or Smith isn't making the calls early enough. That relationship seemed to improve over the half, whether an adjustment was made or not I'm not sure.
Yes there did seem confusion of direction. I’d also add that our clearances have got better, but momentum of carry and quick balls does that.

Latterly Farrell seems to be in 10 a lot more than not.

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:38 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:31 pm We’ve actually woken up. Fuck me!
Out of context, this reads strangely...

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:39 pm
by Oakboy
Lawrence must come on before too long. Will SB have the balls to bring him on for Farrell, though?

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:40 pm
by Stom
On replay, the try wasn't equally Marchant and Farrell. Farrell is more to blame, imo, and I'm not just saying that from a Quins pov.

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:41 pm
by Stom
Oakboy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:39 pm Lawrence must come on before too long. Will SB have the balls to bring him on for Farrell, though?
If he does, that would make the biggest improvement to our game... maybe we'll get the better kicker then, too...

Farrell's tee kicking has been poor for a while.

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:46 pm
by Freddo
Advantage over? How often does that happen any more.

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:48 pm
by FKAS
Freddo wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:46 pm Advantage over? How often does that happen any more.
It was for a knock on.

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:48 pm
by Stom
The line out has been crap so far

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:50 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Camera man is desperate to get a shot of h-c's fingernails!

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:50 pm
by Puja
FKAS wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:48 pm
Freddo wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:46 pm Advantage over? How often does that happen any more.
It was for a knock on.
No, it was for a penalty for the Scot taking someone out in the air. Wasn't terrible call - the pen was 40m out and the ball ended up pinned on the Scots line. Seemed fair.

Puja

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:51 pm
by Puja
Genge just utterly humiliated the Scots tighthead there. Won the engage, got him in an awkward position, then waited patiently until the ball was in before burying him.

Puja

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:51 pm
by Mellsblue
Stom wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:40 pm On replay, the try wasn't equally Marchant and Farrell. Farrell is more to blame, imo, and I'm not just saying that from a Quins pov.
Disagree. As the outside man it’s your job to take the correct position off the inside man. Farrell at fault due to the usual slow feet and poor angles.

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:52 pm
by FKAS
Puja wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:50 pm
FKAS wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:48 pm
Freddo wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:46 pm Advantage over? How often does that happen any more.
It was for a knock on.
No, it was for a penalty for the Scot taking someone out in the air. Wasn't terrible call - the pen was 40m out and the ball ended up pinned on the Scots line. Seemed fair.

Puja
I thought I heard the ref say "advantage over for the knock".

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:53 pm
by Puja
Mellsblue wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:51 pm
Stom wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:40 pm On replay, the try wasn't equally Marchant and Farrell. Farrell is more to blame, imo, and I'm not just saying that from a Quins pov.
Disagree. As the outside man it’s your job to take the correct position off the inside man. Farrell at fault due to the usual slow feet and poor angles.
Seconded that it was more Marchant's fault. Farrell couldn't go wider without leaving gaps on the inside and Marchant has to set based on the inside man.

Puja

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:54 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Dombrandt now blowing cold after a bit of hot, eh.

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:54 pm
by Puja
Dombrandt redeeming himself. Really nice try from us - a succession of very quick rucks and hard runs to bend the defence. Loving what we're building so far.

Puja

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:56 pm
by Which Tyler
How did he get through in the first place?
Then brilliant step

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:58 pm
by Puja
Oh, Ben Curry. That's not making the highlights reel. Shocking missed tackle - went up hard when he was supposed to be the guard on the ruck. Got excited by the loose ball.

Puja

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:58 pm
by Galfon
All stems from restart fumble..soft score, another missed tackle too..

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:58 pm
by Stom
Now we know who’s the better curry, eh?

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:59 pm
by Mellsblue
Is this the ultimate Dombrandt match? Boom or bust personified.

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:00 pm
by Puja
Stom wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:58 pm Now we know who’s the better curry, eh?
In fairness, I'm willing to bet Tom made a fair few mistakes like that in his second cap too.

Puja

Re: Team v Scotland - Announced!

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:01 pm
by Mellsblue
Puja wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:58 pm Oh, Ben Curry. That's not making the highlights reel. Shocking missed tackle - went up hard when he was supposed to be the guard on the ruck. Got excited by the loose ball.

Puja
Afaik, that makes him world class and England captain.