Coco wrote:The tender little snowflakes are protesting, universities are having counselors brought in to help students deal with their emotional stress, professors are offering to allow students to skip mid terms if the election results have caused them too much emotional anguish. What the hell are these little darlings going to do in the real world?
Education is not such a bad thing you know. This anti-academic reactionary nonsense is a large part of why the country ended up with the two fuckwit presidential candidates it did.
These kids will inherit the fall out.
Porky.. Education is essential... I agree. However, dialogue is key. Dialogue requires input, ideas, and understanding that goes back and forth. You cannot speak your idea and then go running away or cover your ears when its your turn to listen and try to understand a different perspective than your own. Cramming your own idea of what is right down everyones throat, then being hurt, insulted or shocked somebody disagrees or just plain does not see it in the same light you do is ridiculous. We should take these petulant children serious, or should we be more open to dialogue... Even if it means somebody has to hear an idea that differs from their own?
Make him sit on the naughty step and think about what he did
Coco wrote:The tender little snowflakes are protesting, universities are having counselors brought in to help students deal with their emotional stress, professors are offering to allow students to skip mid terms if the election results have caused them too much emotional anguish. What the hell are these little darlings going to do in the real world?
It must be easy to have a laugh at the "tender little snowflakes" when you're insulated from the so-called real world where there are people being attacked by emboldened bigoted human garbage cuntsacks because they happened to have the temerity to be a kike or a beaner or a nigger or a faggot or a dyke or a gook or a tranny. The nerve of those people, right? How dare they be sexually attracted to people of their own gender or be a different colour or identify as a gender that isn't the one they were physically born with.
Or maybe you could not be a smug asshole giggling from a distance.
Nice words there. What youve just typed is worse than i have seen anywhere. Screaming and stomping feet when things dont go your way, after the whole country has spoken by voting does nothing but prove how "kids these days" cannot cope with being told NO, or having to accept that not everyone feels the same as they do. This is how it works in our country and sometimes you win, sometimes you dont, but you always have to take a look at the bigger picture.
Trump did not win because people are racist bigots. He won because most of America is worse off now than they were in 2008. I understand that every single person has something important to them, however, RIGHT NOW, more people are worried about providing for themselves and their families.
Cant just wave a magic wand or beat an ideal into peoples heads incessantly.. Most people tire of it or even start rejecting it (like religion!!) There is no dialogue when people stomp feet or run away with fingers in their ears when they dont get their way, or have to listen to another side, or concerns that differ from their own. It goes both ways, without dialogue there is no real meaningful communication. THAT is what is necessary, not screaming crying and hiding out from the reality that not everybody thinks like, or agrees with you - no matter now noble or right you think you are. That is life, that is the real world.
The point
Your head.
If you look at the Trump transition team and not understand why there are people that are fucking PISSED, then there's not much that can be said to you. And it's clear that you don't. Not in any meaningful way, anyway.
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I'm a god
How can you kill a god?
Shame on you, sweet Nerevar
Education is not such a bad thing you know. This anti-academic reactionary nonsense is a large part of why the country ended up with the two fuckwit presidential candidates it did.
These kids will inherit the fall out.
Porky.. Education is essential... I agree. However, dialogue is key. Dialogue requires input, ideas, and understanding that goes back and forth. You cannot speak your idea and then go running away or cover your ears when its your turn to listen and try to understand a different perspective than your own. Cramming your own idea of what is right down everyones throat, then being hurt, insulted or shocked somebody disagrees or just plain does not see it in the same light you do is ridiculous. We should take these petulant children serious, or should we be more open to dialogue... Even if it means somebody has to hear an idea that differs from their own?
Make him sit on the naughty step and think about what he did
Do we have one in here? I petition we get one.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
cashead wrote:
Or maybe you could not be a smug asshole giggling from a distance.
If you look at the Trump transition team and not understand why there are people that are fucking PISSED, then there's not much that can be said to you. And it's clear that you don't. Not in any meaningful way, anyway.
Of course people are going to be pissed, people were pissed when Obama was elected too. Both got elected fair and square though, and that is how it works. In real life, not everyone gets a trophy. Cant go burn flags, stop traffic on freeways, break car windows, and demand it's your right to do so because you are protesting the result of the election, and expect to be taken seriously.
Oh and btw... Go fuck yourself. Giggling from a distance? I live here buddy and am in the working trenches, literally. I've tried to see everyones point here even if i disagree. My opinions have no more or less merit than anyone elses, and at least I accept and gain perspective from it.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
Who is cramming ideas down/up who? How do these kids define a format that is taken seriously in the face of "snowflakes" and other such dismissive categorisation? Why are dumb fucks that love assault rifles afforded a more prominent platform than are actual educated humans?
morepork wrote:Who is cramming ideas down/up who? How do these kids define a format that is taken seriously in the face of "snowflakes" and other such dismissive categorisation? Why are dumb fucks that love assault rifles afforded a more prominent platform than are actual educated humans?
morepork wrote:Who is cramming ideas down/up who? How do these kids define a format that is taken seriously in the face of "snowflakes" and other such dismissive categorisation? Why are dumb fucks that love assault rifles afforded a more prominent platform than are actual educated humans?
Think about this for a moment. They are given an out to not have to feel defeat, not to have to hear opinions that differ from their own, or learn how to cope with disappointment.etcetcetc.
Newsflash.. Educated humans have assault weapons, too.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
Len wrote:That moment when Coco forgets its peoples democratic right to protest.
There are boundaries you know.
Protesting is one thing. Damaging other peoples property, not allowing them to get home or get to work, and affecting somebody elses daily routine is quite another, and nobody has a right to do that.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
& that arrogant and misguided assumption was blown out of the water by this:
rowan wrote:There is also a lot of arrogance and refusal to concede ones errors. An idiom is a fixed expression. The one I used can be found all over the internet and is widely used in the modern era; thus making it a fixed expression - whether you like it or not.
But all this comes down to a really quite trivial - and wayward - shoot-the-messenger tactic against someone who does not think as you do. Not surprising really, given arrogance and narrow-mindedness go hand-in-hand...
Too bad you guys can't just fight your own fights. You can't admit it when you're wrong either But you still lost, because the proof's in the pudding
If they're good enough to play at World Cups, why not in between?
rowan wrote:Your comments show just how blatantly anti-Russian you are, Stones. The proof's in the pudding. Of course I'm aware of Russia's faults, but living and working in the country certainly provides added insight, as you yourself demonstrated with your final paragraph in that rant. I don't hate Russia so much that I blame them for conflicts the West has blatantly instigated - such as Ukraine and Syria - whereas the propaganda industry which passes for American & British mainstream media does. I've been following it closely on the internet for the past 16 years, and we always got a fair bit of it sent our way in New Zealand when I was growing up as well. I didn't suggest we were free of this propaganda. We simply didn't get as much of it as you evidently did.
Oh yeah, another one of the "I know what you think because of who I think you are" brigade.
Fucking retard.
But he's followed it closely on the internet ffs!
Proof of the pudding: I had some major fatigue going on in one leg the other day. T'internet told me I have developed MS, despite no other symptoms or any family history. I'm off to my gp to organize an early retirement, working is for suckaz (not sure da yoof spell that).
See!
I'm with Rowan, the internet is all the proof this pudding ever needed.
It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
Yup, he nails it. Yet to see anyone from right or left who disagrees with him.
It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
So the American & British mainstream newspapers are credible enough for you to believe all their lies & anti-Russian propaganda when it's the printed version, but suddenly morph into meaningless rags that only a conspiracy theorist would pay attention to when it's the electronic version
These are really silly arguments now...
If they're good enough to play at World Cups, why not in between?
rowan wrote:& that arrogant and misguided assumption was blown out of the water by this:
Too bad you guys can't just fight your own fights. You can't admit it when you're wrong either But you still lost, because the proof's in the pudding
Does this mean that apostrophe's no longer mean anything because idiots don't know how to use them?
Does that mean that someone who wishes to convey that they could not possibly care less about something can say "I could care less" in direct contradiction of their feelings; make perfect sense?
"Proof of the pudding" is a shortening of a phrase that actually means something; on it's own it's a meaningless half-sentence. It is about as sensical* as "I could"
Grammar, it's the difference between "helping your uncle jack off a horse", and "helping your Uncle Jack off a horse" It's a bit like personal hygeine - you're free to ignore it, but do'nt complain when people draw their own conclusions. * I know, but I like that one anyway
morepork wrote:Who is cramming ideas down/up who? How do these kids define a format that is taken seriously in the face of "snowflakes" and other such dismissive categorisation? Why are dumb fucks that love assault rifles afforded a more prominent platform than are actual educated humans?
Think about this for a moment. They are given an out to not have to feel defeat, not to have to hear opinions that differ from their own, or learn how to cope with disappointment.etcetcetc.
Newsflash.. Educated humans have assault weapons, too.
....an "out"? Is that your definition of tertiary education?
morepork wrote:Who is cramming ideas down/up who? How do these kids define a format that is taken seriously in the face of "snowflakes" and other such dismissive categorisation? Why are dumb fucks that love assault rifles afforded a more prominent platform than are actual educated humans?
Think about this for a moment. They are given an out to not have to feel defeat, not to have to hear opinions that differ from their own, or learn how to cope with disappointment.etcetcetc.
Newsflash.. Educated humans have assault weapons, too.
....an "out"? Is that your definition of tertiary education?
Referring to the " everyone is a winner and gets a trophy" mentality.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
morepork wrote:Not seen that at any North American tertiary institution I have ever worked for or with.
Starts when they are young... Potentially produces young adults that are lacking the capacity to deal with frustration, and never teaches them to deal with losing properly.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
There are boundaries you know.
But you still lost, because the proof's in the pudding 
