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fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:28 am I dont think so. He's big but not a great technician in the scrum and doesnt offer an enormous amount in the loose.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:22 am

fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:28 am I dont think so. He's big but not a great technician in the scrum and doesnt offer an enormous amount in the loose.

At this level you can see big improvements one year to the next though. Ma'asi White couldn't catch a cold last season but has looked fantastic this season. Ehren Painter was seen as the bigger prospect to Joe Heyes back in 2018 starting the junior world cup final that year.

That being said Hoyt really does need to find a bit more in all facets. I'll be interested to see if he's more positive as an impact sub.

fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:49 am

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:22 am

fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:28 am I dont think so. He's big but not a great technician in the scrum and doesnt offer an enormous amount in the loose.

At this level you can see big improvements one year to the next though. Ma'asi White couldn't catch a cold last season but has looked fantastic this season. Ehren Painter was seen as the bigger prospect to Joe Heyes back in 2018 starting the junior world cup final that year.

That being said Hoyt really does need to find a bit more in all facets. I'll be interested to see if he's more positive as an impact sub.

Sure. But Hoyt did play u20 last year and doesnt seem to have progressed much. Plainly the coaches see a lot of potential there and it may take another season or two to see that starting to be fulfilled. He's a prop so time is on his side.

Puja wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:05 am I've not been hugely impressed by Hoyt from what I've seen of him so far. He's come through with a decent rep and his physical size is promising, but he doesn't seem to be very good at actually using that size, from everything I've seen so far. Fasogbon's looked much more handy, even while only being 18.

Am I missing something on Hoyt?

Puja

Margin_Walker wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:12 pm I've only just noticed that the Ireland player landed on his arse for that red. He seemed to get sent off because it looked spectacular. It just wasn't serious foul play for me by any definition.

fivepointer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:24 pm

Margin_Walker wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:12 pm I've only just noticed that the Ireland player landed on his arse for that red. He seemed to get sent off because it looked spectacular. It just wasn't serious foul play for me by any definition.

I think thats right. It looked a lot worse than it was. On another day with another ref thats a yellow. Cards followed by the Chessum non try took the wind out of our sails. The lads deserve credit for coming back and scoring a couple of tries.
Thought our front row had their best game, Chessum played well, the centres went well and Fisilau was excellent.
Te JWC is going to be interesting.

FKAS wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 6:14 pm Dickens is apparently heading to Tigers, interesting that it's happening before the world cup. I'd assumed he'd want to have a crack at that first.

Puja wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 6:47 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 6:14 pm Dickens is apparently heading to Tigers, interesting that it's happening before the world cup. I'd assumed he'd want to have a crack at that first.

Hmmpf. Not sure I'm thrilled about that - I don't know he's done a fantastic job with the U20s, although it has been a very challenging period. Is he going to a senior role, or with the academy?

Puja