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Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:12 pm
by Banquo
Big D wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:09 pm Ref was decent..

Genge was very good. Maro.ran himself into.the ground. Russell not at his best but his mind was sharp taking advantage of situations with the boot.

Thought the back 3 were pretty average for the first 50-60 bar one or two nice touches. Weren't covering the back field well and out competed on high balls. Amd Lowe especially was shocking in defence, missing tackles and making poor reads.

Glad for Keenan after his injury luck that he is now a player with a series winning try.
Thought Freeman carried well, and Keenan was fine. Lowe was targeted and was pony

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:13 pm
by BaldiePete
Spiffy wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:04 pm
Galfon wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:59 pm Entertaining stuff - more immense stuff from Itoje.
Rule interpretation can lotterise things a bit, feeding into this.
Pleased for Russell & Genge has managed his bulk up perfectly.
I've noticed how effective Russell has been in defence on this tour. He is not a dominant/bone crusher tackler but has very quietly and effectively plugged the 10 channel. He's often fast back on his feet too, to complete a second tackle. I don't think I have heard any of the TV wise sages mention this. Fair play Russell.
It’s amazing how perspective on a player can change when he’s playing for your side. I think Scotland supporters have always known this and Bath supporters have discovered it.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:17 pm
by Banquo
Spiffy wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:12 pm A small word for Ryan. I thought he should not have been in the 23. But he threw in a few massive hits and put himself about. His best performance on tour.
Aye, but got turned over once and very nearly again at the end, went to deck a bit easily and didn’t punch the ball back to present. But better than expected tbh

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:24 pm
by Banquo
BaldiePete wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:13 pm
Spiffy wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:04 pm
Galfon wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:59 pm Entertaining stuff - more immense stuff from Itoje.
Rule interpretation can lotterise things a bit, feeding into this.
Pleased for Russell & Genge has managed his bulk up perfectly.
I've noticed how effective Russell has been in defence on this tour. He is not a dominant/bone crusher tackler but has very quietly and effectively plugged the 10 channel. He's often fast back on his feet too, to complete a second tackle. I don't think I have heard any of the TV wise sages mention this. Fair play Russell.
It’s amazing how perspective on a player can change when he’s playing for your side. I think Scotland supporters have always known this and Bath supporters have discovered it.
He has been very visibly leading the line speed and aggression in D.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:31 pm
by Big D
Lots of weeks moments that make up a win. Russell launching that penalty into the corner taking way more territory than usual when Aus were sleeping before the Jones try and just after the Curry try (I think) was massive in the context of the game.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:38 pm
by Which Tyler
BaldiePete wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:13 pm
Spiffy wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:04 pm I've noticed how effective Russell has been in defence on this tour. He is not a dominant/bone crusher tackler but has very quietly and effectively plugged the 10 channel. He's often fast back on his feet too, to complete a second tackle. I don't think I have heard any of the TV wise sages mention this. Fair play Russell.
It’s amazing how perspective on a player can change when he’s playing for your side. I think Scotland supporters have always known this and Bath supporters have discovered it.


Not sure.
He's always been a committed defender, it's the "not a team player" and "useless if the team aren't on his wavelength" cliches that I've learned don't apply (and didn't at Racing, I just didn't see him much there before he was rumoured to us).

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:40 pm
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:38 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:17 pm Aye, but got turned over once and very nearly again at the end, went to deck a bit easily and didn’t punch the ball back to present. But better than expected tbh
Not sure.
He's always been a committed defender, it's the "not a team player" and "useless if the team aren't on his wavelength" cliches that I've learned don't apply (and didn't at Racing, I just didn't see him much there before he was rumoured to us).
Eh? Was talking bout Ryan. Replied to the wrong post??

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:43 pm
by Which Tyler
Yup, meant to be replying to Baldie Pete

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:47 pm
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:43 pm Yup, meant to be replying to Baldie Pete
👍 the baldness must have been confusing

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:07 pm
by Oakboy
I don't think I've ever been in favour of a 6:2 split before but I am for next week. There are two reasons: Marcus instead of Diddums; and the need for two quick back-rowers to come on and step up the pace. I'd start Morgan and have Curry and Pollock to come on.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:24 pm
by pompey-zebra
pompey-zebra wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:26 pm Anyway Jac Morgan's on- no doubt to be blamed for any defeat.
For a moment I had a horrible sinkng feeling i might have been right.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:29 pm
by Sandydragon
Big D wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:31 pm Lots of weeks moments that make up a win. Russell launching that penalty into the corner taking way more territory than usual when Aus were sleeping before the Jones try and just after the Curry try (I think) was massive in the context of the game.
That was a huge kick and I agree massive in the context of the game.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:33 pm
by Beasties
Just sat down to watch the recorded Lions match, or so I thought.
Turns out I’d altered my Sky sub and have had sports deleted just in time for the game, doh.
Where can I watch it? Does it get on to Youtoob at all?

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:38 pm
by Big D
Oakboy wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:07 pm I don't think I've ever been in favour of a 6:2 split before but I am for next week. There are two reasons: Marcus instead of Diddums; and the need for two quick back-rowers to come on and step up the pace. I'd start Morgan and have Curry and Pollock to come on.
6/2 hurt Oz today.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:38 pm
by UKHamlet
Beasties wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:33 pm Just sat down to watch the recorded Lions match, or so I thought.
Turns out I’d altered my Sky sub and have had sports deleted just in time for the game, doh.
Where can I watch it? Does it get on to Youtoob at all?

Highlights on You Tube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8ZnmIH3v4

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:41 pm
by UKHamlet
Oakboy wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:07 pm I don't think I've ever been in favour of a 6:2 split before but I am for next week. There are two reasons: Marcus instead of Diddums; and the need for two quick back-rowers to come on and step up the pace. I'd start Morgan and have Curry and Pollock to come on.
Curry's interventions won that game for the Lions today. I appreciate the reasoning of bringing on big characters to close out the game, but we might have been buried but for him. On the other hand, Morgan brings a more traditional 7 presence, with turnovers, breakdown disruption, and he has hell of an engine.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:43 pm
by Banquo
UKHamlet wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:41 pm
Oakboy wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:07 pm I don't think I've ever been in favour of a 6:2 split before but I am for next week. There are two reasons: Marcus instead of Diddums; and the need for two quick back-rowers to come on and step up the pace. I'd start Morgan and have Curry and Pollock to come on.
Curry's interventions won that game for the Lions today. I appreciate the reasoning of bringing on big characters to close out the game, but we might have been buried but for him. On the other hand, Morgan brings a more traditional 7 presence, with turnovers, breakdown disruption, and he has hell of an engine.
Yeah thought Curry was very influential again. Such a shame his hip is clearly curtailing him.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:27 pm
by Mikey Brown
That was fucking great.

No idea what was going in midfield towards the end, felt like Kinghorn just decided he was playing 13 but it was desperately needed. Beautiful running.

Amazing for Keenan to get that. I feel for Aus a bit, and Tizzano could probably argue he’s been hard done by there. So glad Morgan didn’t have to face that try getting chalked off though.

Gutted for Mitchell not to get on, but JGP is so bloody good.

Any word on Jones injury?

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:37 pm
by BaldiePete
Mikey Brown wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:27 pm
Any word on Jones injury?
I didn’t realise he was injured. No mention of it in his post-match interview.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:38 pm
by p/d
Mikey Brown wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:27 pm That was fucking great.

No idea what was going in midfield towards the end, felt like Kinghorn just decided he was playing 13 but it was desperately needed. Beautiful running.

Amazing for Keenan to get that. I feel for Aus a bit, and Tizzano could probably argue he’s been hard done by there. So glad Morgan didn’t have to face that try getting chalked off though.

Gutted for Mitchell not to get on, but JGP is so bloody good.

Any word on Jones injury?
Great watch that!!! Aus first 30 was fabulous. Second half a proper battle.

Was Jones injured?

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:44 pm
by Banquo
Mikey Brown wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:27 pm That was fucking great.

No idea what was going in midfield towards the end, felt like Kinghorn just decided he was playing 13 but it was desperately needed. Beautiful running.

Amazing for Keenan to get that. I feel for Aus a bit, and Tizzano could probably argue he’s been hard done by there. So glad Morgan didn’t have to face that try getting chalked off though.

Gutted for Mitchell not to get on, but JGP is so bloody good.

Any word on Jones injury?
Kinghorn came off the left wing having replaced Lowe I thought, then joined in as an extra centre, given the lack of gas in midfield post Jones.

If Jones wasn't injured there needs to be an enquiry.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 4:44 pm
by Oakboy
Banquo wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:44 pm
Mikey Brown wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:27 pm That was fucking great.

No idea what was going in midfield towards the end, felt like Kinghorn just decided he was playing 13 but it was desperately needed. Beautiful running.

Amazing for Keenan to get that. I feel for Aus a bit, and Tizzano could probably argue he’s been hard done by there. So glad Morgan didn’t have to face that try getting chalked off though.

Gutted for Mitchell not to get on, but JGP is so bloody good.

Any word on Jones injury?
Kinghorn came off the left wing having replaced Lowe I thought, then joined in as an extra centre, given the lack of gas in midfield post Jones.

If Jones wasn't injured there needs to be an enquiry.
Quite. Farrell ain't special at 12. He's a joke at 13. If Jones WAS injured, I'd have moved Freeman to 13 and left Lowe on.

Of course, the press tomorrow will insist that Farrell's mere presence was a significant factor in snatching victory from what was going to be defeat if he had not come on.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 5:10 pm
by R3dders
Check out the telegraph reviews.

Really quite balanced and sensible, until they come to the replacements.


https://archive.ph/eCmfb

Replacements
As a collective they were the Lions’ men of the match. Genge and Stuart took the Australian scrum to the cleaners while Kinghorn added thrust in attack and Farrell the class. 9/10

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 5:13 pm
by Oakboy
R3dders wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 5:10 pm Check out the telegraph reviews.

Really quite balanced and sensible, until they come to the replacements.


https://archive.ph/eCmfb

Replacements
As a collective they were the Lions’ men of the match. Genge and Stuart took the Australian scrum to the cleaners while Kinghorn added thrust in attack and Farrell the class. 9/10
That is vomit-worthy.

Re: 2ND. TEST

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 5:51 pm
by SixAndAHalf
Oakboy wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 4:44 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:44 pm
Mikey Brown wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:27 pm That was fucking great.

No idea what was going in midfield towards the end, felt like Kinghorn just decided he was playing 13 but it was desperately needed. Beautiful running.

Amazing for Keenan to get that. I feel for Aus a bit, and Tizzano could probably argue he’s been hard done by there. So glad Morgan didn’t have to face that try getting chalked off though.

Gutted for Mitchell not to get on, but JGP is so bloody good.

Any word on Jones injury?
Kinghorn came off the left wing having replaced Lowe I thought, then joined in as an extra centre, given the lack of gas in midfield post Jones.

If Jones wasn't injured there needs to be an enquiry.
Quite. Farrell ain't special at 12. He's a joke at 13. If Jones WAS injured, I'd have moved Freeman to 13 and left Lowe on.

Of course, the press tomorrow will insist that Farrell's mere presence was a significant factor in snatching victory from what was going to be defeat if he had not come on.
Redefining the 13 position by primarily hitting rucks