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Re: Autumn thoughts

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:59 am
by 16th man
Mikey Brown wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:33 am Ha. Yeah imagine being the new apprentice defence coach that gets ditched before he can even start.

In the interest of ditching absolutely everybody, here’s a knee-jerk proposal that solves nothing except for my boredom (temporarily).

1. Marler
2. McGuigan
3. Collier/Schonert
4. Launch
5. Chessum
6. Hill/Martin
7. Burry/Ludlaw
8. Dombrant

9. Quirke
10. Ford
11. Murley
12. Lawrence
13. Marchant
14. Watson
15. Arundell

How’s that for addressing all of the wrong issues?
It's an heroic effort to chuck the baby out with the bathwater.

Re: Autumn thoughts

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:34 pm
by Mikey Brown
16th man wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:59 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:33 am Ha. Yeah imagine being the new apprentice defence coach that gets ditched before he can even start.

In the interest of ditching absolutely everybody, here’s a knee-jerk proposal that solves nothing except for my boredom (temporarily).

1. Marler
2. McGuigan
3. Collier/Schonert
4. Launch
5. Chessum
6. Hill/Martin
7. Burry/Ludlaw
8. Dombrant

9. Quirke
10. Ford
11. Murley
12. Lawrence
13. Marchant
14. Watson
15. Arundell

How’s that for addressing all of the wrong issues?
It's an heroic effort to chuck the baby out with the bathwater.
Absolutely. But I feel like I’d actually pay to go and see this team, with no prior training, play against the one from yesterday.

That’s not a thing I remember feeling very often with this current side.

Re: Autumn thoughts

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:36 pm
by Insouciant
We didn't learn much positive from the autumn, even then it's more what we didn't learn that's concerning. What exactly is the game plan? What are we trying to achieve? It's not very clear. Squidge-type analysis aside, consistently losing games and showing very little is not good world cup prep, or prep for anything unless there is a method. We've shown SA that they can walk through us without their first string line up, and with only 14 for the last 15/20 mins. I'd be very interested to understand exactly what Eddie and Co. have believe they've learned, I'm sure it's frightfully interesting :roll:

Re: Autumn thoughts

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:16 pm
by Oakboy
Insouciant wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:36 pm We didn't learn much positive from the autumn, even then it's more what we didn't learn that's concerning. What exactly is the game plan? What are we trying to achieve? It's not very clear. Squidge-type analysis aside, consistently losing games and showing very little is not good world cup prep, or prep for anything unless there is a method. We've shown SA that they can walk through us without their first string line up, and with only 14 for the last 15/20 mins. I'd be very interested to understand exactly what Eddie and Co. have believe they've learned, I'm sure it's frightfully interesting :roll:
Apart from results and what the scoreboard tells us, most of the rest is subjective - form, performance, mood, body language, discipline etc. can all be used to back opinion. I'd suggest that since the RWC SF win over NZ our performances have varied between 55 and 80 per cent of 'best possible'. At the very least, one can claim a disappointing lack of progress, consistency and positivity. On the back of that, quite what could be claimed on the credit side is beyond me. As p/d might say, award a point for wearing the right kit?