RugbyRebels

TheNomad wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:42 am

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:32 pm Identify

Name and shame

Lifetime ban, all rugby

100%. Get the facts, as far as possible, and throw the book.

Not that we should rely on this kind of statement, but Ugo doesn't strike me as the kind to make anything like that up. So there's clearly something there. Whatever it is needs to be established. There are clearly plenty of people who must have heard/seen something.

Awful

My only reservation from Monye's statement related to his inference that nobody helped him at the time. That is easy to say but one consequence of all the wokery is a legitimate concern about getting involved. Condemning from a distance on remote media means zilch. Standing up to be counted in public takes real nerve and commitment. I'm not sure how you condemn Mr Average for not having it.

Oakboy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:18 amMy only reservation from Monye's statement related to his inference that nobody helped him at the time. That is easy to say but one consequence of all the wokery is a legitimate concern about getting involved. Condemning from a distance on remote media means zilch. Standing up to be counted in public takes real nerve and commitment. I'm not sure how you condemn Mr Average for not having it.

Errr... what?

One of the consequences of being more aware of racism is a legitimate concern about getting involved when you see racism?

Or do you mean "one of the consequences of the war on wokery is a legitimate concern about getting involved" because the anti-woke are far, far more violent.

Wokery - whatever that is, is really neither here nor there. You would hope that this appalling racism was challenged as difficult as that may have been.
Hopefully the club will be able to identify the individual and some sanctions will follow.

Has there been any more detail about this from Monye? Was it someone actually addressing him or just shouting the word in a crowd? I don't get if the "mild scuffle" was between the suspect and Monye or not.

fivepointer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:48 am Wokery - whatever that is, is really neither here nor there. You would hope that this appalling racism was challenged as difficult as that may have been.
Hopefully the club will be able to identify the individual and some sanctions will follow.

Bystander effect

Puja

Puja wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:35 pm

fivepointer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:48 am Wokery - whatever that is, is really neither here nor there. You would hope that this appalling racism was challenged as difficult as that may have been.
Hopefully the club will be able to identify the individual and some sanctions will follow.

Bystander effect

Puja

I’m not going to read that link but I assume someone else will

Chiefs have identified the fan on cctv. No other details. Apparently loads of fans have come forward with info so I'm pretty sure he will be dealt with.

I wouldn't get to hung up on ugo's statement on people not backing him up. He must have made that tweet very soon after it happened.

twitchy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:47 am Chiefs have identified the fan on cctv. No other details. Apparently loads of fans have come forward with info so I'm pretty sure he will be dealt with.

I wouldn't get to hung up on ugo's statement on people not backing him up. He must have made that tweet very soon after it happened.

According to Ruck it was a 40 something, mixed race, South African who was on holiday.

So, Ugo probably misheard an Afrikaans expression......

Puja wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:35 pm

fivepointer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:48 am Wokery - whatever that is, is really neither here nor there. You would hope that this appalling racism was challenged as difficult as that may have been.
Hopefully the club will be able to identify the individual and some sanctions will follow.

Bystander effect

Puja

Excellent read, and education
https://righttobe.org/guides/bystander- ... -training/

The 5Ds are different methods – Distract, Delegate, Document, Delay, and Direct – that you can use to support someone who’s being harassed, emphasize that harassment is not okay, and demonstrate to people in your life that they have the power to make their community safer.

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:10 pm

Puja wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:35 pm

fivepointer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:48 am Wokery - whatever that is, is really neither here nor there. You would hope that this appalling racism was challenged as difficult as that may have been.
Hopefully the club will be able to identify the individual and some sanctions will follow.

Bystander effect

Puja

Excellent read, and education
https://righttobe.org/guides/bystander- ... -training/

The 5Ds are different methods – Distract, Delegate, Document, Delay, and Direct – that you can use to support someone who’s being harassed, emphasize that harassment is not okay, and demonstrate to people in your life that they have the power to make their community safer.

Excellent - thank you for posting that.

Puja