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Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:55 pm
by Mush
You can lead a horse to water.........
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/66585723
Scrum-half Danny Care says England have been working on their tackle technique every day as they look to improve their discipline for the upcoming World Cup.
"We are working on our tackle technique every day. We get referees in every day, who are trying to help us out."
If there is this level of support then I suggest a Hanging judge should trump a KC
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:57 pm
by Stom
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:32 pm
by p/d
Mush wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:55 pm
You can lead a horse to water.........
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/66585723
Scrum-half Danny Care says England have been working on their tackle technique every day as they look to improve their discipline for the upcoming World Cup.
"We are working on our tackle technique every day. We get referees in every day, who are trying to help us out."
If there is this level of support then I suggest a Hanging judge should trump a KC
"He is still the first one out there in training trying to drive the ream, so he is doing all right."
and this was probably not the ideal spelling mistake
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:44 pm
by fivepointer
Tackle lower.
If you cannot understand this simple instruction you are a cretin.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:51 pm
by Sandydragon
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:34 pm
Shouldn't we have found out by now?
The live tracker on the Fail is struggling. Links to berry article over the past week or so, followed by ‘we know nothing yet’.
But this is taking a stupidly long time. The meltdown ifFarrell is pardoned again will be incredible.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:52 pm
by Sandydragon
Possibly the first time in quite a while that anyone has described the Fail as helpful, even ironically.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:56 pm
by Puja
Over 12 hours since the hearing began. Given that some of the panel members were based in NZ and Singapore, surely they will have needed bed at some point during this?
Whatever the verdict is, it's surely not worth 12 hours of deliberation? Either it's screamingly obvious that he's guilty, because he is, or they haven't got the evidence to overturn the hair splitting that the lawyers managed last time, in which case he goes free to kill again. I don't see where the middle ground is?
Puja
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:08 pm
by FKAS
Rumours are the biscuit delivery was late and that has hampered the deliberation.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:19 pm
by Stom
Puja wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:56 pm
Over 12 hours since the hearing began. Given that some of the panel members were based in NZ and Singapore, surely they will have needed bed at some point during this?
Whatever the verdict is, it's surely not worth 12 hours of deliberation? Either it's screamingly obvious that he's guilty, because he is, or they haven't got the evidence to overturn the hair splitting that the lawyers managed last time, in which case he goes free to kill again. I don't see where the middle ground is?
Puja
They could be struggling to draw the legal line in the sand. Especially if Farrell's arse of a lawyer has bought in the usual claptrap we've put up with in football for a while. RW should draw a line in the sand, but do they have the balls?
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:28 pm
by morepork
Mush wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:55 pm
You can lead a horse to water.........
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/66585723
Scrum-half Danny Care says England have been working on their tackle technique every day as they look to improve their discipline for the upcoming World Cup.
"We are working on our tackle technique every day. We get referees in every day, who are trying to help us out."
If there is this level of support then I suggest a Hanging judge should trump a KC
"It's there for player safety and we are thoroughly behind it. We understand the laws and we have fallen foul of it two weeks in a row, which is disappointing".
So why aren't you coming out in support of the decision for red?
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:35 pm
by fivepointer
Farrell gets a 4 game ban, which includes the Ireland and Fiji games. He's available for Chile and Samoa.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:37 pm
by oldbackrow
Should have been 6 and not included the Ireland game.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:46 pm
by FKAS
oldbackrow wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:37 pm
Should have been 6 and not included the Ireland game.
It's what we all were hoping for.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:01 pm
by 16th man
fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:35 pm
Farrell gets a 4 game ban, which includes the Ireland and Fiji games. He's available for Chile and Samoa.
We carry on as we are and they could be dead rubbers.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:14 pm
by Banquo
morepork wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:28 pm
Mush wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:55 pm
You can lead a horse to water.........
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/66585723
Scrum-half Danny Care says England have been working on their tackle technique every day as they look to improve their discipline for the upcoming World Cup.
"We are working on our tackle technique every day. We get referees in every day, who are trying to help us out."
If there is this level of support then I suggest a Hanging judge should trump a KC
"It's there for player safety and we are thoroughly behind it. We understand the laws and we have fallen foul of it two weeks in a row, which is disappointing".
So why aren't you coming out in support of the decision for red?
Who isn’t?
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:14 pm
by Banquo
16th man wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:01 pm
fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:35 pm
Farrell gets a 4 game ban, which includes the Ireland and Fiji games. He's available for Chile and Samoa.
We carry on as we are and they could be dead rubbers.
No one wants those
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:22 pm
by morepork
Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:14 pm
morepork wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:28 pm
Mush wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:55 pm
You can lead a horse to water.........
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/66585723
Scrum-half Danny Care says England have been working on their tackle technique every day as they look to improve their discipline for the upcoming World Cup.
"We are working on our tackle technique every day. We get referees in every day, who are trying to help us out."
If there is this level of support then I suggest a Hanging judge should trump a KC
"It's there for player safety and we are thoroughly behind it. We understand the laws and we have fallen foul of it two weeks in a row, which is disappointing".
So why aren't you coming out in support of the decision for red?
Who isn’t?
Scrum-Half Danny Care.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:35 pm
by Banquo
morepork wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:22 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:14 pm
morepork wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:28 pm
"It's there for player safety and we are thoroughly behind it. We understand the laws and we have fallen foul of it two weeks in a row, which is disappointing".
So why aren't you coming out in support of the decision for red?
Who isn’t?
Scrum-Half Danny Care.
Ah, so addressing someone who won't read it, gotcha.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:37 pm
by Danno
fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:35 pm
Farrell gets a 4 game ban, which includes the Ireland and Fiji games. He's available for Chile and Samoa.
The Ireland game ban is such a farce considering that England effectively banned him to try to either claw back some PR or (much more likely) to game the system for exactly this eventuality. There's no way he was even bemching for that match.
Four weeks is bollocks as well. No reason to deviate from the 6, particularly since he tried the Wasn't me Guv thing at the first hearing.
So tired of this.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:44 pm
by Banquo
its a shambles, full whack should have been applied. Should be binned from squad anyway along with Billy.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:46 pm
by Margin_Walker
Danno wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:37 pm
fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:35 pm
Farrell gets a 4 game ban, which includes the Ireland and Fiji games. He's available for Chile and Samoa.
The Ireland game ban is such a farce considering that England effectively banned him to try to either claw back some PR or (much more likely) to game the system for exactly this eventuality. There's no way he was even bemching for that match.
Four weeks is bollocks as well. No reason to deviate from the 6, particularly since he tried the Wasn't me Guv thing at the first hearing.
So tired of this.
It is consistent though. Some recent bans for repeat offenders
6 down to 5 - Kremer
10 down to 8 - Aki
6 down to 4 - Lavanini (also after his 4th red)
Even players with spotty records don't get the full tariff if they admit foul play has occurred etc (often by suggesting that it occurred, but should have been a yellow etc with mitigation). I'd have given Faz 5 weeks, but he was never getting 6
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:48 pm
by Margin_Walker
duplicate.
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:49 pm
by Banquo
Margin_Walker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:46 pm
Danno wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:37 pm
fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:35 pm
Farrell gets a 4 game ban, which includes the Ireland and Fiji games. He's available for Chile and Samoa.
The Ireland game ban is such a farce considering that England effectively banned him to try to either claw back some PR or (much more likely) to game the system for exactly this eventuality. There's no way he was even bemching for that match.
Four weeks is bollocks as well. No reason to deviate from the 6, particularly since he tried the Wasn't me Guv thing at the first hearing.
So tired of this.
It is consistent though. Some recent bans for repeat offenders
6 down to 5 - Kremer
10 down to 8 - Aki
6 down to 4 - Lavanini (also after his 4th red)
Even players with spotty records don't get the full tariff if they admit foul play has occurred etc (often by suggesting that it occurred, but should have been a yellow etc with mitigation). I'd have given Faz 5 weeks, but he was never getting 6
ok, its a consistent shambles
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:02 pm
by Mellsblue
Seems to be a bit stupid to have a maximum when nobody is given the maximum…
Re: How long a ban?
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:04 pm
by Margin_Walker
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:02 pm
Seems to be a bit stupid to have a maximum when nobody is given the maximum…
It's even more stupid than that.
It's actually an 'entry' point iirc
That no one actually enters.