RugbyRebels

morepork wrote:"...the bringing of democracy ..."

What a twat. Spare us your affected benevolence you lying war profiteering cult leader.

Was watching the Rory Stewart documentary from 2012. It was a quality documentary. The lad knows his stuff and he speaks Afghan.
No mention of heroin.

2 hours of quality documentary. No mention of the skag.

I'm starting to think you have some sort of fixation on class A narcotics, is something I could have written several years back.

kk67 wrote:

morepork wrote:"...the bringing of democracy ..."

What a twat. Spare us your affected benevolence you lying war profiteering cult leader.

Was watching the Rory Stewart documentary from 2012. It was a quality documentary. The lad knows his stuff and he speaks Afghan.
No mention of heroin.

He would make a great foreign secretary

Airport activities are being hurried to a close now by predicted violence there by Taliban affiliates or infiltrees.
Several countries have ended flights already.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-58279900

Regarding KKs points about Heroin - the ban by the Taliban could have an impact on the drug trade for sure. Last time they cut it off in 2001, it triggered the Estonian drug market to switch to Fentanyl, much like we see in the US. Fentanyl is much more potent, which means that there are many more overdose deaths. Given the recent developments, we can probably expect to see a similar development in the rest of drug markets previously supplied by Afghan heroin, such as Europe. Time for a change in drug policy perhaps? Treating is as a healthcare issue would be a sensible change.

p.s. If anyone is unaware of what a Fentanyl epidemic looks like, just look to US. Check out videos on youtube of Kensington Open Air Drug Market in Philly for starters. Fentanyl replacing Heroin will not be a good change.

I've volunteered a few times at a vaccine clinic in Kengsington. It is grim. The city herds as many homeless people as possible into there, cuts it off from outside norms and lord of the flies ensues as a result of this mindless containment strategy. It's tragic and perversely beautiful all at once. The people are incredible.

Zhivago wrote:Regarding KKs points about Heroin - the ban by the Taliban could have an impact on the drug trade for sure. Last time they cut it off in 2001, it triggered the Estonian drug market to switch to Fentanyl, much like we see in the US. Fentanyl is much more potent, which means that there are many more overdose deaths. Given the recent developments, we can probably expect to see a similar development in the rest of drug markets previously supplied by Afghan heroin, such as Europe. Time for a change in drug policy perhaps? Treating is as a healthcare issue would be a sensible change.

p.s. If anyone is unaware of what a Fentanyl epidemic looks like, just look to US. Check out videos on youtube of Kensington Open Air Drug Market in Philly for starters. Fentanyl replacing Heroin will not be a good change.

No chance of a change in drug policy with this UK government, or with Labour trying to look acceptable to Tory voters. Realistically we need a change in media ownership before such ideas stop getting the usual tabloid knee-jerk reaction.

So, not going to happen.

Zhivago wrote:Regarding KKs points about Heroin - the ban by the Taliban could have an impact on the drug trade for sure. Last time they cut it off in 2001, it triggered the Estonian drug market to switch to Fentanyl, much like we see in the US. Fentanyl is much more potent, which means that there are many more overdose deaths. Given the recent developments, we can probably expect to see a similar development in the rest of drug markets previously supplied by Afghan heroin, such as Europe. Time for a change in drug policy perhaps? Treating is as a healthcare issue would be a sensible change.

p.s. If anyone is unaware of what a Fentanyl epidemic looks like, just look to US. Check out videos on youtube of Kensington Open Air Drug Market in Philly for starters. Fentanyl replacing Heroin will not be a good change.

Ironic that they banned it then made a fortune from it. A key source of their recruitment was the crack handed way the Afghan government went about destroying poppy crops without properly compensating the farmers

Sandydragon wrote:crack handed

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