Trump

[Digby]

There's bound to be a Trump tweet about taking hydroxychloroquine to prevent him or anyone else getting coronavirus, there's always a Trump tweet

[fivepointer]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... orts-trump

The president and his wife were tested after one of his closest aides, the White House counsellor Hope Hicks, began showing symptoms earlier this week as she travelled to campaign events around the country with Trump’s entourage, including several other family members.

“Tonight, @FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19,” Trump tweeted, adding that they would begin quarantine immediately.

Melania Trump tweeted that she and the president “are feeling good and I have postponed all upcoming engagements”.

Despite the reassuring messages, however, many have noted Trump’s age and weight put him in a high-risk category for more severe forms of the disease.

Although Hicks was tested on Thursday after showing symptoms requiring isolation, Trump still travelled to New Jersey to meet supporters at his Bedminster Golf Club, and delivered remarks at a fundraiser despite the high risk that his counsellor may have been infected.

[Digby]

All those people having to isolate who met Trump at the fund raiser is also amusing, though one suspects they'll act as spreaders and/or they're protected by Jebus

[Mikey Brown]

Pelosi in charge is a pretty horrifying idea in itself, but that would be a pretty miraculous moment in history if she could prevent the GOP SCOTUS nomination and the inevitable shit-storm of horrific things they will do over the next few years.

It doesn't really sound like something that could feasibly happen, with both Trump and Pence croaking simultaneously. And it would probably prompt a civil war if it turned out to actually be possible anyway, but it would certainly be interesting.

Or she'd just fucking bottle it.

[paddy no 11]

That would be hilarious

[Digby]

I get why people might not like Pelosi and/or her political take on the world, but horrifying is an odd way to describe her. Slightly conservative and perhaps a tad boring sure, but she cares, she's bright, she works hard

[Sandydragon]

So, has he:

a) actually genuinely got the coronavirus and in severe danger for his life?

b) claiming he's got coronavirus to try and get a sympathy bounce?

or c) taking the Bolsonaro route of claiming to have coronavirus so that he can claim he recovered from it in under a week like the superhero he is while simultaneously brushing it off as no worse than a mild flu and thus the Libs have been totally overreacting?

Mixture of b and c to my mind.

Puja

I can't help but feel that you're right. Whilst it would be Karma at her bitchiest best, I think this is more likely to be a last gasp attention grabber.

Either that, or an excuse for him to withdraw from the race as undefeated rather than risk losing the election.

[Puja]

Pelosi in charge is a pretty horrifying idea in itself, but that would be a pretty miraculous moment in history if she could prevent the GOP SCOTUS nomination and the inevitable shit-storm of horrific things they will do over the next few years.

It doesn't really sound like something that could feasibly happen, with both Trump and Pence croaking simultaneously. And it would probably prompt a civil war if it turned out to actually be possible anyway, but it would certainly be interesting.

Or she'd just fucking bottle it.

She probably could do it if she was temporarily President. Whether she should would be a different matter - I can think of nothing more likely to drum out the Republican vote. I'd rather have a Republican Supreme Court and Democrats controlling all three branches of government, than I would a temporarily postponed Republican Supreme Court and then later a Republican Supreme Court as they got the Presidency and Senate back in the election.

Puja

[Mikey Brown]

I feel like anyone who wants that shit is going to vote for it either way. I'm not convinced they really need any more firing up.

The GOP will always go for the throat. The Democrats will always compromise. It's just hard to tell when it's through pragmatism and when it's because being the perpetually outraged opposition is a whole lot easier.

Maybe you're right, but the looming action over ACA is sounding pretty fucking grim.

[morepork]

Ha! Not many people on the street believe it. Many, many people are saying "you are trying to get out of debates and showing your tax returns, you whiny little bitch."

[Son of Mathonwy]

Pelosi in charge is a pretty horrifying idea in itself, but that would be a pretty miraculous moment in history if she could prevent the GOP SCOTUS nomination and the inevitable shit-storm of horrific things they will do over the next few years.

It doesn't really sound like something that could feasibly happen, with both Trump and Pence croaking simultaneously. And it would probably prompt a civil war if it turned out to actually be possible anyway, but it would certainly be interesting.

Or she'd just fucking bottle it.

She probably could do it if she was temporarily President. Whether she should would be a different matter - I can think of nothing more likely to drum out the Republican vote. I'd rather have a Republican Supreme Court and Democrats controlling all three branches of government, than I would a temporarily postponed Republican Supreme Court and then later a Republican Supreme Court as they got the Presidency and Senate back in the election.

Puja

As long as she simply withdrew Trump's candidate and didn't put forward a left-friendly one, I think the election fallout would be negligible. (Anyone seriously bothered by this withdrawal would be voting for Trump regardless).

Totally hypothetical though. Trump and Pence aren't going to simultaneously die in the next few weeks. However poetic that would be.

[morepork]

If it wasn't an election year, you'd hardly notice his absence. All he does is tweet and golf and have rallies (whatever the fuck they are). Biggest problem is how Pence is going to be able to safely take the President in his mouth daily.


Oh yeah. Be Best Melanie Trump.

[WaspInWales]

I call bullshit on this, but I don't think it's for sympathy votes as such...although that may be part of it. We'll have to see if he is rushed to hospital at some point and reports claim he is clinging onto life. Has Cummings been doing any consultation work for the Trump administration recently? [emoji848]

I think it's more about damage control. I'm wondering if those around the fat orange gimp are genuinely worried that he is gonna fuck things up on Twitter. I can't see him losing core support regardless of what he Tweets, but many undecideds might finally start seeing him for what he is...a massive cunt.

I'm actually rooting for Covid-19 for this one [emoji1696] if he really has it that is?!

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[Galfon]

Trump is now experiencing fatigue, one source familiar with the matter ... “He’s tired.”
( news tribune )

A different type of 'Trump fatigue' one supposes..

[WaspInWales]

I call bullshit on this, but I don't think it's for sympathy votes as such...although that may be part of it. We'll have to see if he is rushed to hospital at some point and reports claim he is clinging onto life. Has Cummings been doing any consultation work for the Trump administration recently? [emoji848]

I think it's more about damage control. I'm wondering if those around the fat orange gimp are genuinely worried that he is gonna fuck things up on Twitter. I can't see him losing core support regardless of what he Tweets, but many undecideds might finally start seeing him for what he is...a massive cunt.

I'm actually rooting for Covid-19 for this one [emoji1696] if he really has it that is?!

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Ahem....

BBC News - Trump taken to hospital after testing positive
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54396670

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[Sandydragon]

Beat me to it Waspy. Still not sure this is legit I wouldn’t put anything past him.

I wonder when Pence will take over.

[WaspInWales]

It's got spin and pr written all over it.

Course, if Trump dies, I'll admit I was wrong [emoji16]

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[WaspInWales]

It's almost word for word like BoJo's pr attempt at dying.

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[morepork]

It's almost word for word like BoJo's pr attempt at dying.

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Uncle Bulgaria was actually in the ICU for reals though, right?

[WaspInWales]

It's almost word for word like BoJo's pr attempt at dying.

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Uncle Bulgaria was actually in the ICU for reals though, right?

Oh yeah, totally reals...it was 50/50 life or death for a while. Then it was thinking about being ventilated (he wasn't), then it was home time to recover with his pregnant partner, then it was the NHS saved his life 100%. Then came the realisation he was a fat wanker and everyone had to lose weight.

More here if you're interested in my thoughts on the matter:
https://www.nick-thompson.co.uk/portfol ... trava-art/

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[Digby]

The number of people who'd know if he didn't have the disease and would need to be keeping quiet about it pretty much precludes it being a fake.

I do as a side issue slightly wonder what the Covid is only a liberal/Chinese lie crowd to deny them their freedom make of this, not enough I want to read their thoughts, but with the denier in chief advising he has the mythical disease there's got to be some bullshit conspiracy theories getting heavily reimagined

[Guest]

[quote="Digby"]The number of people who'd know if he didn't have the disease and would need to be keeping quiet about it pretty much precludes it being a fake.

I do as a side issue slightly wonder what the Covid is only a liberal/Chinese lie crowd to deny them their freedom make of this, not enough I want to read their thoughts, but with the denier in chief advising he has the mythical disease there's got to be some bullshit conspiracy theories getting heavily reimagined[/quote]

The number of people who'd know he didn't have the disease would be 0 if those who were closely around him were loyal enough. Remember, various doctors have said Trump is of sound mind and cognitive function. All without any evidence besides Trump saying in an interview that he can recall a few objects which proves he is amazing.

As for your second paragraph, it's almost a win, win for Trump.

He gets the virus, is a little unwell but pulls through whilst being a fat carcass of a human being means that all is good. You can catch the virus and be like me. Maga bollocks

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[WaspInWales]

The number of people who'd know if he didn't have the disease and would need to be keeping quiet about it pretty much precludes it being a fake.

I do as a side issue slightly wonder what the Covid is only a liberal/Chinese lie crowd to deny them their freedom make of this, not enough I want to read their thoughts, but with the denier in chief advising he has the mythical disease there's got to be some bullshit conspiracy theories getting heavily reimagined

The number of people who'd know he didn't have the disease would be 0 if those who were closely around him were loyal enough. Remember, various doctors have said Trump is of sound mind and cognitive function. All without any evidence besides Trump saying in an interview that he can recall a few objects which proves he is amazing.

As for your second paragraph, it's almost a win, win for Trump.

He gets the virus, is a little unwell but pulls through whilst being a fat carcass of a human being means that all is good. You can catch the virus and be like me. Maga bollocks

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[Digby]

This info, him and Melanie testing positive, is going to be known outside his little group, still more so if he goes into hospital. And it'd be a lunatic risk to be caught out lying about this

And I get the benefit of pulling through and being the strongman, I'm only wondering with a sense of mockery what those who denied this is even a thing are making of Trump being ill with something that's a hoax

[Sandydragon]

This info, him and Melanie testing positive, is going to be known outside his little group, still more so if he goes into hospital. And it'd be a lunatic risk to be caught out lying about this

And I get the benefit of pulling through and being the strongman, I'm only wondering with a sense of mockery what those who denied this is even a thing are making of Trump being ill with something that's a hoax

All logical but on the other hand the hoax would only need to last a month and they are pretty desperate. Hospitalisation makes it less likely to be a hoax in my opinion but I still can’t completely discount it.