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Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:27 am
by Stom
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:55 am #Justice4AnthonyAllen
With his all of 2 caps...

Should have had more.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:31 am
by fivepointer
Stuart Abbott. 9 caps in 4 years. Should have had a lot more.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
by FKAS
fivepointer wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:31 am Stuart Abbott. 9 caps in 4 years. Should have had a lot more.
Stuart Abbott and Ollie Smith the centre partnership that should have been.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
by FKAS
Stom wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:27 am
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:55 am #Justice4AnthonyAllen
With his all of 2 caps...

Should have had more.
100%

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:53 am
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
Stom wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:27 am
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:55 am #Justice4AnthonyAllen
With his all of 2 caps...

Should have had more.
100%
absolutely massive fan at the time- posted continually about it! Nice lad, coaches at my club now.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:54 am
by Banquo
fivepointer wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:31 am Stuart Abbott. 9 caps in 4 years. Should have had a lot more.
He bust his leg, wasn't quite the same after. Good partnership with Fraser Waters iirc.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:55 am
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
fivepointer wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:31 am Stuart Abbott. 9 caps in 4 years. Should have had a lot more.
Stuart Abbott and Ollie Smith the centre partnership that should have been.
yep, Ollie was very good. IIRC ruined by a Lions tour? (SCW)

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:01 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Banquo wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:55 am
FKAS wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
fivepointer wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:31 am Stuart Abbott. 9 caps in 4 years. Should have had a lot more.
Stuart Abbott and Ollie Smith the centre partnership that should have been.
yep, Ollie was very good. IIRC ruined by a Lions tour? (SCW)
His dad died suddenly before the tour, which was a shitter

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:04 pm
by Banquo
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:01 pm
Banquo wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:55 am
FKAS wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am

Stuart Abbott and Ollie Smith the centre partnership that should have been.
yep, Ollie was very good. IIRC ruined by a Lions tour? (SCW)
His dad died suddenly before the tour, which was a shitter
ah yes, I remember, never quite the same player.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:07 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Banquo wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:04 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:01 pm
Banquo wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:55 am

yep, Ollie was very good. IIRC ruined by a Lions tour? (SCW)
His dad died suddenly before the tour, which was a shitter
ah yes, I remember, never quite the same player.
That coupled with knowing he was a dirt tracker from day one didn't help. Think he lost a bit of love for the game, and where the move to France helped reinvigorate him. Just then the bloody knee injury(s) did for him Think he was only 27 or 28 when he retired.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:28 pm
by Stom
Banquo wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:53 am
FKAS wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
Stom wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:27 am

With his all of 2 caps...

Should have had more.
100%
absolutely massive fan at the time- posted continually about it! Nice lad, coaches at my club now.
12 has been a bit of a theme these past...20 years. As Mikey said.

Insane, really, that we can't produce a single allround 12.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pm
by Banquo
jimKRFC wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:05 pm Saints:
5 George Hendy
14 James Ramm
13 Tom Litchfield
12 Rory Hutchinson
11 Tom Seabrook
10 George Makepeace-Cubitt – Saint #2095
9 Tom James
1 Tom West
2 Curtis Langdon
3 Elliot Millar Mills
4 Temo Mayanavanua
5 Alex Coles (c)
6 Josh Kemeny
7 Tom Pearson
8 Henry Pollock

Replacements:
16 Craig Wright
17 Emmanuel Iyogun
18 Luke Green
19 Gavin Thornbury
20 Angus Scott-Young
21 Archie McParland
22 Charlie Savala
23 Jake Garside

Not available for selection:
Juarno Augustus, Emeka Atuanya, Fraser Dingwall, Sam Graham, Tom Lockett, Alex Mitchell, Burger Odendaal, Toby Thame and Robbie Smith.

International duty:
Trevor Davison, Tommy Freeman, George Furbank, Ollie Sleightholme and Fin Smith (all England).

Referee: Craig Maxwell-Keys
Assistant referees: Anthony Woodthorpe and Harry Walbaum
No.4: Neil Chivers
TMO: Andrew Jackson
needs rethreading

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:16 pm
by Mikey Brown
I just sort of assumed that was Adam P taking a stab at his preferred England side.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:29 pm
by Banquo
Mikey Brown wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:16 pm I just sort of assumed that was Adam P taking a stab at his preferred England side.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:24 pm
by FKAS
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:07 pm
Banquo wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:04 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:01 pm

His dad died suddenly before the tour, which was a shitter
ah yes, I remember, never quite the same player.
That coupled with knowing he was a dirt tracker from day one didn't help. Think he lost a bit of love for the game, and where the move to France helped reinvigorate him. Just then the bloody knee injury(s) did for him Think he was only 27 or 28 when he retired.
Don't think Andy Robinson liked him either, if memory serves he omitted him even though he was playing well and that seemed to knock his confidence a bit.

Loffreda was another one that didn't seem to accept he'd help the midfield until towards the end of his solitary season at the helm and Ollie had already agreed the move to Brive

Knee injuries certainly blighted his career. Never made the impact I thought he'd have at Quins due to those injuries.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:52 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:24 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:07 pm
Banquo wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:04 pm

ah yes, I remember, never quite the same player.
That coupled with knowing he was a dirt tracker from day one didn't help. Think he lost a bit of love for the game, and where the move to France helped reinvigorate him. Just then the bloody knee injury(s) did for him Think he was only 27 or 28 when he retired.
Don't think Andy Robinson liked him either, if memory serves he omitted him even though he was playing well and that seemed to knock his confidence a bit.

Loffreda was another one that didn't seem to accept he'd help the midfield until towards the end of his solitary season at the helm and Ollie had already agreed the move to Brive

Knee injuries certainly blighted his career. Never made the impact I thought he'd have at Quins due to those injuries.
only 11 games for quins before wrecking his knee.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:31 pm
by Puja
FKAS wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:24 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:07 pm
Banquo wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:04 pm

ah yes, I remember, never quite the same player.
That coupled with knowing he was a dirt tracker from day one didn't help. Think he lost a bit of love for the game, and where the move to France helped reinvigorate him. Just then the bloody knee injury(s) did for him Think he was only 27 or 28 when he retired.
Don't think Andy Robinson liked him either, if memory serves he omitted him even though he was playing well and that seemed to knock his confidence a bit.
Yeah, in the infamous Mathew Tait debut against Wales, Ollie Smith was the form 13 in Europe, but Tait was new and shiny and the media's favourite and Robinson got the selection badly wrong.

The main thing was losing his dad suddenly though. That relationship was intertwined with his love for rugby and he was never the same player after that.

Puja

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:30 am
by p/d
Mikey Brown wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:16 pm I just sort of assumed that was Adam P taking a stab at his preferred England side.
Genius Mikey!!!

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:36 am
by FKAS
Puja wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:31 pm
FKAS wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:24 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:07 pm

That coupled with knowing he was a dirt tracker from day one didn't help. Think he lost a bit of love for the game, and where the move to France helped reinvigorate him. Just then the bloody knee injury(s) did for him Think he was only 27 or 28 when he retired.
Don't think Andy Robinson liked him either, if memory serves he omitted him even though he was playing well and that seemed to knock his confidence a bit.
Yeah, in the infamous Mathew Tait debut against Wales, Ollie Smith was the form 13 in Europe, but Tait was new and shiny and the media's favourite and Robinson got the selection badly wrong.

The main thing was losing his dad suddenly though. That relationship was intertwined with his love for rugby and he was never the same player after that.

Puja
Yes, Ollie only relinquished his season ticket and his spot next to his dad at Welford Road when he started playing for the first team I believe.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:49 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Chessum out. Picked up knee injury in training.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:53 pm
by Banquo
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:49 pm Chessum out. Picked up knee injury in training.
so...Ewels or iSiekwe....not that it matters :lol:

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:07 pm
by fivepointer
Oh bugger.

I imagine Coles will come into the squad but if form meant anything Batley should be called up.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:15 pm
by Mikey Brown
If nothing else he seems to be a try scoring machine. Weird for a lock.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:32 pm
by FKAS
Banquo wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:53 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:49 pm Chessum out. Picked up knee injury in training.
so...Ewels or iSiekwe....not that it matters :lol:
Arse that's bad news. Hopefully it's only a knock and we don't have to make do for long. Coles could also come back in.

Re: England Squad for the AIs

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:34 pm
by Mikey Brown
Roots called up.