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6N Bonus points

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:37 pm
by BBD
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watch them feckers, theyre tricky little bastards especially that house elf

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Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:41 pm
by Which Tyler
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Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:17 pm
by cashead
Oh nooooo, they're trying to encourage more enterprising play! The fiends, how dare they?

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:54 am
by hellovating
thumbs down from me.... never understood the logic that more tries = more entertainment. give me a tightly fought 9-6 in the driving rain any day over no defence, you score / we score.

i love when the european cup and world cups reach the play offs and winning becomes the only measure of success.

cashead, why isn't enterprising defensive play rewarded? keep a team tryless, win a bonus point? why is only attacking enterprising play rewarded?

also, there is a direct correlation between more bonus points and a) playing at home and b) good weather. the 6 nations has an unequal number of home / away games and well, there are no songs about anyone loving Dublin in the springtime.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:55 am
by hellovating
also, they say bonus points keep the spectators / tv viewers interested until the final whistle. if that ain't dumbing down the product, i don't know what is.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:38 am
by Which Tyler
hellovating wrote:also, they say bonus points keep the spectators / tv viewers interested until the final whistle. if that ain't dumbing down the product, i don't know what is.
If true then Cricket and Darts are the most interesting and popular sports in the world.

I'd far rather see a close match than a humping. Even high scoring close matches are entertaining for their closeness, not the try scoring - they just make the highlights reel more interesting, not the match itself.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:03 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
hellovating wrote:thumbs down from me.... never understood the logic that more tries = more entertainment. give me a tightly fought 9-6 in the driving rain any day over no defence, you score / we score.

i love when the european cup and world cups reach the play offs and winning becomes the only measure of success.

cashead, why isn't enterprising defensive play rewarded? keep a team tryless, win a bonus point? why is only attacking enterprising play rewarded?

also, there is a direct correlation between more bonus points and a) playing at home and b) good weather. the 6 nations has an unequal number of home / away games and well, there are no songs about anyone loving Dublin in the springtime.
It's better than points difference.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:10 pm
by hellovating
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
hellovating wrote:thumbs down from me.... never understood the logic that more tries = more entertainment. give me a tightly fought 9-6 in the driving rain any day over no defence, you score / we score.

i love when the european cup and world cups reach the play offs and winning becomes the only measure of success.

cashead, why isn't enterprising defensive play rewarded? keep a team tryless, win a bonus point? why is only attacking enterprising play rewarded?

also, there is a direct correlation between more bonus points and a) playing at home and b) good weather. the 6 nations has an unequal number of home / away games and well, there are no songs about anyone loving Dublin in the springtime.
It's better than points difference.
True. It is. Can we not go back to sharing championships?

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:03 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
hellovating wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
hellovating wrote:thumbs down from me.... never understood the logic that more tries = more entertainment. give me a tightly fought 9-6 in the driving rain any day over no defence, you score / we score.

i love when the european cup and world cups reach the play offs and winning becomes the only measure of success.

cashead, why isn't enterprising defensive play rewarded? keep a team tryless, win a bonus point? why is only attacking enterprising play rewarded?

also, there is a direct correlation between more bonus points and a) playing at home and b) good weather. the 6 nations has an unequal number of home / away games and well, there are no songs about anyone loving Dublin in the springtime.
It's better than points difference.
True. It is. Can we not go back to sharing championships?
I'd love to. Unfortunately it's not very marketing friendly.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:47 am
by BBD
Ding ding ding
We have a winner! It's all about expanding the market and increasing revenue

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:15 pm
by Digby
BBD wrote:Ding ding ding
We have a winner! It's all about expanding the market and increasing revenue
Not sure this really is about increasing revenues, they may increase but not because of this. It feels more like they've had changes in front of them to bring in promotion/relegation, to move the tournament window, and not wanting to do those felt they should make some change, any change.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:44 pm
by BBD
I'm pretty convinced that's exactly what it's about tbh Digby
It's about selling the 6N more globally, to the Southern Hemisphere and to the USA particularly. Money and its creation has been at the heart of the game for a while now, a natural step in the pro era

I've read a couple of articles, one bbc, one in the Irish media who both put this forward as strong motive for this change

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:01 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
So what about the team that builds on an impregnable defence to the exclusion of attack, beats everyone else by a couple of penalties and grinds its way to the most tedious of grand slams - and championship by virtue of the 3 BPs?

Yep, enterprising R*gby all the fecking way!

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:35 am
by Digby
Who in the SH or USA is going to watch the 6N now that is has BPs that wasn't already?

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:39 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
Actually, its the Chinese and Bolivian audiences we're really after.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:16 am
by BBD
Those Chinese love a bonus point based competition

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:49 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
Those Bolivians are hoores for a nail-biting finish where bonus points are all-important.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:18 pm
by BBD
I think the Chinese like the bonus points more, they even put "Extras" at the bottom of their takeaway menus

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:23 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bolivia-bonus- ... ate-524434

Pah! Bolivians are so obsessed by bonuses, even the government has to get involved.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:28 am
by SerjeantWildgoose

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:12 pm
by OptimisticJock
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:So what about the team that builds on an impregnable defence to the exclusion of attack, beats everyone else by a couple of penalties and grinds its way to the most tedious of grand slams - and championship by virtue of the 3 BPs?

Yep, enterprising R*gby all the fecking way!
I'll take that sort of rugby just to avoid the wooden spoon.

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:40 pm
by SerjeantWildgoose
See, ye think it will work and then the French go an' lose to Italy and yer fecked!

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:46 pm
by BBD
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Did you 'ear, ze Scotland, zay lost because of us???

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:17 pm
by SerjeantWildgoose
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Feck tuoi punti bonus! Lo voglio il formaggio

Re: 6N Bonus points

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:17 pm
by BBD
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un po 'di cracking si incunea nel mio set top di protesi