Mike Brown

[caldeyrfc]

Don't think he'll be bothering us much in a fortnight

[Tre]

Don't think he'll be bothering us much in a fortnight

He's an epic bell, but that did amuse me

[cadofyddol]

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him get off. The standard of officiating is borderline corrupt.

[Bob]

I don't think so went to TMO and ref also watched it

[Sandydragon]

That could go either way. Looks more stupid than deliberate, but....

[WaspInWales]

Murray clearly holding on. Penalty England.

[WaspInWales]

At the time I thought Poite called it right but it keeps looking worse on repeated viewings. He'll definitely be cited and probably out for a few games.

[Sourdust]

The contact with Murray's head is clearly "accidental", in that Brown flailed his boot around Murray's upper body half a dozen times with no specific intent to kick him in the face.

[caldeyrfc]

The first one, which I assume did the damage to Murry, looks accidental but the other 2 are at least reckless use of the boot, even if he was going for the ball you can't lash out like that so close to someones head and not expect some sort of sanction

[oldbackrow]

The first one, which I assume did the damage to Murry, looks accidental but the other 2 are at least reckless use of the boot, even if he was going for the ball you can't lash out like that so close to someones head and not expect some sort of sanction

Ach, Murrays a scrum half, they're all whingers!

[Spiffy]

The contact with Murray's head is clearly "accidental", in that Brown flailed his boot around Murray's upper body half a dozen times with no specific intent to kick him in the face.

It's hard to know anyone's intent except one's own.
I don't think he deliberately kicked him in the face, but it certainly was dangerous and reckless play and he obviously didn't give a flying fuuck for any player's welfare.

[Arnietheboot]

before that clip he puts the boot in and there is a camera angle, from behind the try line, which looks like it was a stamp on a head.

[cadofyddol]

We'll see how the ruling goes but Tom Wood should have gone for 10 minutes in the World Cup v Wales for a kick to the head as well. Yet 2-3 seasons ago, Samson gets a yellow for a kick to Danny Carl's head. Some teams seem to get the benefit of the doubt on the pitch whilst others are shown the yellow card straight away.
I'm sure refs subconsciously bottle decisions against the bigger teams as a result of media coverage after the game.

[UKHamlet]

I hope Brown doesn't get cited. As much as I think he deserves it, I'd prefer to see him on the park.

[TibetanBlue]

There was a lot of talk before the game about ambassadors for the game, parents of young rugby players watching, etc etc This did look well dodgy and was pretty irresponsible
Brown's always been difficult to like but the past few months have really highlighted how much of a **** he is
I do hope he gets cited but very much doubt he will

[gthedog]

I hope Brown doesn't get cited. As much as I think he deserves it, I'd prefer to see him on the park.

This and only for the post match interview when they lose

[Handyosprey]

Think there has been no citing. Its been reviewed and there is no case to answer.

[bruce]

Think there has been no citing. Its been reviewed and there is no case to answer.

hmmm sets a fairly dangerous precedent imo. Obviously swayed by Guscott's nonsensical argument that it was all Murrays fault for not moving his face.

[caldeyrfc]

It's a rubbish decision, but hardly surprising, does this mean now that people can lash out with a boot irrespective of where someone's head is?

[Son of Mathonwy]

Shocking - he lashes about in there, kicks the guy in the face, then comes back and lashes about again. Even if by accident it was dangerously reckless.

[kk67]

I quite like Mikey. He's a very uncomplicated sort of Fella,...which I always think is an advantage in rugby. He seems to get tarred with the 'hideous chav' brush a bit more than is warranted, even though he is definitely a bit of a gobby scrote.

In this though, I think he probably deserved a yellow. First couple looked clumsy,....the second round of kicks were worse.

[normanski]

I quite like Mikey. He's a very uncomplicated sort of Fella,...which I always think is an advantage in rugby. He seems to get tarred with the 'hideous chav' brush a bit more than is warranted, even though he is definitely a bit of a gobby scrote.

In this though, I think he probably deserved a yellow. First couple looked clumsy,....the second round of kicks were worse.

I agree. I think the third stab of his boot was dangerous and the citing could have gone either way.

[kk67]

He's not the sort of bloke you want stepping through your ruck, when you're lying on the deck illegally holding onto the ball that he's going to legally kick.
Part of me thinks CM deserved it. He was holding the ball next to his face on purpoise.

[Bob]

Glad they don't have Daly in the starting team. His 60m penalties could swing the game

[Sandydragon]

It's a rubbish decision, but hardly surprising, does this mean now that people can lash out with a boot irrespective of where someone's head is?

Apparently so.