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Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:12 pm
by UKHamlet
What do we think?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... l-11032285

I'm thinking four weeks at a minimum.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:36 pm
by Sandydragon
As it was caught on the refs Mike, I think he is in trouble. I don't think they can ignore this.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:37 pm
by MoW
Would have been a different game of England had only had 14 players for an hour....

Lengthy ban, I'd imagine, and richly deserved


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Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:40 pm
by whatisthejava
Honestly England should ban him till the end of the season before the citing commission say anything , make him do a tonne of community service. Seriously the way the world is going I think a statement of zero tolerance should be made.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:46 pm
by Ross. S
He said sorry at half time so that'll get at least 50% off any punishment he gets.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:49 pm
by Hwyl dda
Sandydragon wrote:As it was caught on the refs Mike, I think he is in trouble. I don't think they can ignore this.
If it was caught on the Ref's mic why didn't he say something at the time FFS?!!

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:03 pm
by Len
Hwyl dda wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:As it was caught on the refs Mike, I think he is in trouble. I don't think they can ignore this.
If it was caught on the Ref's mic why didn't he say something at the time FFS?!!
Because it was Joubert.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:09 pm
by Spiffy
Does this all mean that nobody on Rugby Rebels can call me a Mick anymore?

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:11 pm
by Lord Llandaff
Spiffy wrote:Does this all mean that nobody on Rugby Rebels can call me a Mick anymore?
No, it's fine. As long as we say sorry afterwards.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:17 pm
by Cameo
Hwyl dda wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:As it was caught on the refs Mike, I think he is in trouble. I don't think they can ignore this.
If it was caught on the Ref's mic why didn't he say something at the time FFS?!!
Because he was concentrating on something else. Loads of things are said within earshot of me without me hearing them.

Should get a ban but hopefully not too long a one

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:18 pm
by welshsaint
Because something was caught on a microphone doesn't mean he heard it in the melee. Give him stick when it's due, and there was plenty owing, but this doesn't warrant it. Ban for Marler surely.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:38 pm
by Tre
Considering he's not being picked up for the cowardly forearm smash to a defenceless Rob Evans, I can't see anything happening with this

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:44 pm
by WaspInWales
I think Joubert is a bottler and he certainly bottled a few big decisions yesterday. Although as others have said, he may not have heard it given the other things happening so probably deserves the benefit of the doubt in this instance.

Not too clever from Marler though.

Re: RE: Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:44 pm
by UKHamlet
Spiffy wrote:Does this all mean that nobody on Rugby Rebels can call me a Mick anymore?
That's endearment. If we call you a gippo, then call the citing commission

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:04 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Shameful. Always thought Marler was a fucking tool. Hopefully a nice long ban.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:45 pm
by Renniks
Tre wrote:Considering he's not being picked up for the cowardly forearm smash to a defenceless Rob Evans, I can't see anything happening with this
Forearm smash was definitely just a rugby incident. Unlike a cowardly attempt at an eye gouge.

(The racist comments should get Marler banned though)

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:47 pm
by Mikey Brown
It's racist now? Really?

Re: RE: Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:10 pm
by Tre
Renniks wrote:
Tre wrote:Considering he's not being picked up for the cowardly forearm smash to a defenceless Rob Evans, I can't see anything happening with this
Forearm smash was definitely just a rugby incident. Unlike a cowardly attempt at an eye gouge.

(The racist comments should get Marler banned though)
Francis will rightfully cop a ban

Re: RE: Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:11 pm
by Tre
Mikey Brown wrote:It's racist now? Really?
You don't think so?

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:58 pm
by Mikey Brown
It seems like school playground stuff, certainly doesn't reflect well on Marler but perhaps I'm missing out on some culture/history (quite likely) that makes it anything more than that? I would have thought there were a million worse things that have been said on the field. It's dangerous territory to say one prejudiced term is worse than another but it seems quite different to (trying not to be too specific here) the likes you might get from, say, a Chelsea fan/player.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:00 pm
by Peat
Renniks wrote:
Tre wrote:Considering he's not being picked up for the cowardly forearm smash to a defenceless Rob Evans, I can't see anything happening with this
Forearm smash was definitely just a rugby incident. Unlike a cowardly attempt at an eye gouge.

(The racist comments should get Marler banned though)
Eh?

I've seen players sent off and banned for basically the same thing.

As for the racism... ee, sucks to be Quins. Without Marler all 6N, then he goes and gets himself banned just at the end. Or at least I hope he does, it would be shameful if he didn't.

Re: RE: Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:01 pm
by Tre
Mikey Brown wrote:It seems like school playground stuff, certainly doesn't reflect well on Marler but perhaps I'm missing out on some culture/history (quite likely) that makes it anything more than that? I would have thought there were a million worse things that have been said on the field. It's dangerous territory to say one prejudiced term is worse than another but it seems quite different to (trying not to be too specific here) the likes you might get from, say, a Chelsea fan/player.
I don't see how it's different.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:15 pm
by Mikey Brown
As I say, there may be a lot of history to it I'm unaware of, it just reminds me of playground insults and I don't want to see people getting banned for calling each-other ginger or four-eyes either.

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:16 am
by Joz
How precisely is this a RACIAL/ETHNIC?NATIONAL ORIGIN epithet?

Are travellers a "race" or distinct ethnicity? I think we can rule out the national heritage part straight away no?

Re: Racism in rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:31 am
by hawkaye
Gippo - mostly regarded as a derogatory temp for gypsy - ( not exclusively) Roma people.