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England players get around 23,000 pounds per game. That means that any who has played in all four games in the RWC so far has picked up 92,000 pounds. Over half a million pounds for the 23 man match day squad in any one game. I don't know if there is any extra bonus gravy for wins, bonus points etc. but I suspect there probably is. I believe they are the top paid nation in this respect. Money well spent?
The current average UK salary is about 33,000.
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I need peer-reviewed evidence that there are win bonuses. My eyes tell me different.

(Not that peer review counts for anything)
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Spiffy wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:16 pm England players get around 23,000 pounds per game. That means that any who has played in all four games in the RWC so far has picked up 92,000 pounds. Over half a million pounds for the 23 man match day squad in any one game. I don't know if there is any extra bonus gravy for wins, bonus points etc. but I suspect there probably is. I believe they are the top paid nation in this respect. Money well spent?
The current average UK salary is about 33,000.
Its one of the big bones of contention with the RFU from the rest of the game- how they allocate cash, when they say they have none.Basically every match as you say, they are getting 4 Championship sides annual funding.
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The RFU make a small fortune every year from England games at Twickenham, the match fees were supposed to reward the players for their part in that. Whether the fee based payment should be lowered with more money being channelled into other areas of the game is a valid point, whether the level of payment should be dictated by the result is also valid.
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FKAS wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:30 am The RFU make a small fortune every year from England games at Twickenham, the match fees were supposed to reward the players for their part in that. Whether the fee based payment should be lowered with more money being channelled into other areas of the game is a valid point, whether the level of payment should be dictated by the result is also valid.
They have a lot of cash, but are actually losing money. My point was more about how they 'allocate' the money, specifically this RWC's payments. Mind, paying millions to Tigers, 650k +bonus to Sweeney, can't make it 'easy' for Sue Day, along with growing staff from 480 to around 570 in a year.
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Banquo wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:34 am
FKAS wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:30 am The RFU make a small fortune every year from England games at Twickenham, the match fees were supposed to reward the players for their part in that. Whether the fee based payment should be lowered with more money being channelled into other areas of the game is a valid point, whether the level of payment should be dictated by the result is also valid.
They have a lot of cash, but are actually losing money. My point was more about how they 'allocate' the money, specifically this RWC's payments. Mind, paying millions to Tigers, 650k +bonus to Sweeney, can't make it 'easy' for Sue Day, along with growing staff from 480 to around 570 in a year.
Wasn't that much all the coaches were out of contract this summer so they only had to buy out Borthwick and Sinfield. Prob under a mil, dunno how much paying off Eddie cost mind.
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FKAS wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:02 pm
Banquo wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:34 am
FKAS wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:30 am The RFU make a small fortune every year from England games at Twickenham, the match fees were supposed to reward the players for their part in that. Whether the fee based payment should be lowered with more money being channelled into other areas of the game is a valid point, whether the level of payment should be dictated by the result is also valid.
They have a lot of cash, but are actually losing money. My point was more about how they 'allocate' the money, specifically this RWC's payments. Mind, paying millions to Tigers, 650k +bonus to Sweeney, can't make it 'easy' for Sue Day, along with growing staff from 480 to around 570 in a year.
Wasn't that much all the coaches were out of contract this summer so they only had to buy out Borthwick and Sinfield. Prob under a mil, dunno how much paying off Eddie cost mind.
Even under a mil (though I’ve heard a much bigger number quoted in hq) funds 7 champ teams 😂
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Banquo wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:52 pm
FKAS wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:02 pm
Banquo wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:34 am

They have a lot of cash, but are actually losing money. My point was more about how they 'allocate' the money, specifically this RWC's payments. Mind, paying millions to Tigers, 650k +bonus to Sweeney, can't make it 'easy' for Sue Day, along with growing staff from 480 to around 570 in a year.
Wasn't that much all the coaches were out of contract this summer so they only had to buy out Borthwick and Sinfield. Prob under a mil, dunno how much paying off Eddie cost mind.
Even under a mil (though I’ve heard a much bigger number quoted in hq) funds 7 champ teams 😂
I'm not saying you're wrong about the RFU spending money unwisely just that saying Tigers got millions was incorrect.

Eddie Jones was rumoured to be pocketing £800k which could fund a lot of the women's game or the Championship. The senior men's team is the cash cow for the RFU but centering the spending around this isn't going to provide any more growth.
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FKAS wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 3:12 pm
Banquo wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:52 pm
FKAS wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:02 pm

Wasn't that much all the coaches were out of contract this summer so they only had to buy out Borthwick and Sinfield. Prob under a mil, dunno how much paying off Eddie cost mind.
Even under a mil (though I’ve heard a much bigger number quoted in hq) funds 7 champ teams 😂
I'm not saying you're wrong about the RFU spending money unwisely just that saying Tigers got millions was incorrect.

Eddie Jones was rumoured to be pocketing £800k which could fund a lot of the women's game or the Championship. The senior men's team is the cash cow for the RFU but centering the spending around this isn't going to provide any more growth.
Last number I saw quoted was £2m asked for, but I don't know what was paid in fairness. I do know the total cost of severing Eddie and hiring those guys was north of £2m.
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Wouldn't surprise me if it was north of £2m. Eddie had a year left on his contract so that would be £800k to pay him out alone. Getting rid of the Saffa scrum coach and cancelling the contract for the incoming defence coach will also have cost money.

If you are including lawyers fees for drawing up contracts and negotiating then you can get that won't have been cheap.

The rumours at the time were Pinchen the Tigers CEO has asked for £1m and she said after that Bill Sweeny's response had been "you'll never get the money you want and you'll have to tell Steve you stood in his way". The rumours dragged on for a while considering the RFU were only pursuing one man for the top job suggesting negotiations weren't particularly amicable.
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