Wales v SA

[ALunpg]

Halfpenny, Amos, Williams, Parkes, Evans, Biggar, Davies
Evans, Owens, Lee, AWJ, Davies, Shingler, Tipuric, Navidi

Dacey, Jones, Brown, Hill, Cross, Davies, Patchell, Watkin

It seems a bit like a whose left standing and plays in Wales team I have put Lee in to start but not really sure if he is fit ...

[Sandydragon]

I don’t think Lee will be fit, in which case it will be a big test for Brown. Hopefully Faletau will be available.

[Numbers]

Halfpenny, Amos, Williams, Parkes, Evans, Biggar, Davies
Evans, Owens, Lee, AWJ, Davies, Shingler, Tipuric, Navidi

Dacey, Jones, Brown, Hill, Cross, Davies, Patchell, Watkin

It seems a bit like a whose left standing and plays in Wales team I have put Lee in to start but not really sure if he is fit ...

I think we'll see something along these lines:

Evans
Owens
Francis
AWJ
Hill
Shingler
Navidi
Faletau
Davies
Biggar
Evans
Williams
Parkes
Amos
Halfpenny

Bench: Jones, Dacey, Brown, Davies, Tipuric, Patchell, Cuthbert

I can't really justify Roberts's inclusion over Cuthbert as he can't play wing proficiently (it's a moot point as to whther Cuthbert can) and we literally have no else left.

I thin we can give them a decent game with this side.

[PoolerSaint]

I think we'll have to assume none of the English based players will be available. So no:
Tomos Francis
Taulupe Faletau
Jamie Roberts
Rhys Priestland
Owen Williams
Liam Williams

So depth wise big problem especially at tighthead. If Brown is expected to start with only Scott Andrews as back-up we're in trouble.
No Jake Ball will hit us hard too, we've under utilised Seb Davies this autumn & will start with Cory Hill I guess.

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[Numbers]

I think we'll have to assume none of the English based players will be available. So no:
Tomos Francis
Taulupe Faletau
Jamie Roberts
Rhys Priestland
Owen Williams
Liam Williams

So depth wise big problem especially at tighthead. If Brown is expected to start with only Scott Andrews as back-up we're in trouble.
No Jake Ball will hit us hard too, we've under utilised Seb Davies this autumn & will start with Cory Hill I guess.

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Faletau has a clause so should be available, Francis apparently won't be, tho Exeter have allowed him to play in the "outside the window" match before.

[ALunpg]

Isn't Cuthbert injured ...Roberts unavailable..hurrah .Francis won't be available Falateu is unlikely to be available despite his clause..we will see.
Scott Andrews is on loan at Bath so may or may not be tied in with them next week.

Seb Davies would be my choice to start but it will be Cory Hill.

[Numbers]

Isn't Cuthbert injured ...Roberts unavailable..hurrah .Francis won't be available Falateu is unlikely to be available despite his clause..we will see.
Scott Andrews is on loan at Bath so may or may not be tied in with them next week.

Seb Davies would be my choice to start but it will be Cory Hill.

From the BBC Sport website:

"However, the Wales team management have said throughout the autumn that Priestland's club team-mate Taulupe Faletau will be available against the Springboks."

"Faletau is understood to have negotiated full-release for international matches when he joined the West Country club when he joined them from Dragons in 2016."

We may be better off with Dillon Lewis on the bench as Andrews is not very good at all.

[Sandydragon]

Isn't Cuthbert injured ...Roberts unavailable..hurrah .Francis won't be available Falateu is unlikely to be available despite his clause..we will see.
Scott Andrews is on loan at Bath so may or may not be tied in with them next week.

Seb Davies would be my choice to start but it will be Cory Hill.

From the BBC Sport website:

"However, the Wales team management have said throughout the autumn that Priestland's club team-mate Taulupe Faletau will be available against the Springboks."

"Faletau is understood to have negotiated full-release for international matches when he joined the West Country club when he joined them from Dragons in 2016."

We may be better off with Dillon Lewis on the bench as Andrews is not very good at all.

We'd be better off with my dead granny on roller skates for all the use Andrews is. If Brown has a hard time in the set piece he will at least learn from it. Andrews has had plenty of time to kick on and has failed to do so.

[Numbers]

Isn't Cuthbert injured ...Roberts unavailable..hurrah .Francis won't be available Falateu is unlikely to be available despite his clause..we will see.
Scott Andrews is on loan at Bath so may or may not be tied in with them next week.

Seb Davies would be my choice to start but it will be Cory Hill.

From the BBC Sport website:

"However, the Wales team management have said throughout the autumn that Priestland's club team-mate Taulupe Faletau will be available against the Springboks."

"Faletau is understood to have negotiated full-release for international matches when he joined the West Country club when he joined them from Dragons in 2016."

We may be better off with Dillon Lewis on the bench as Andrews is not very good at all.

We'd be better off with my dead granny on roller skates for all the use Andrews is. If Brown has a hard time in the set piece he will at least learn from it. Andrews has had plenty of time to kick on and has failed to do so.

Aye, may as well give Lewis a go I should think, there's a lot of talk he is good.

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Absolute farce that you lot are still persevering with this 4th AI.

Dual contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on if the players will get flogged like this anyway.

[Sandydragon]

Absolute farce that you lot are still persevering with this 4th AI.

Dual contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on if the players will get flogged like this anyway.

Money my dear chap, money.

[Numbers]

Absolute farce that you lot are still persevering with this 4th AI.

Dual contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on if the players will get flogged like this anyway.

Um, that's the point of them.

[ALunpg]

Isn't Cuthbert injured ...Roberts unavailable..hurrah .Francis won't be available Falateu is unlikely to be available despite his clause..we will see.
Scott Andrews is on loan at Bath so may or may not be tied in with them next week.

Seb Davies would be my choice to start but it will be Cory Hill.

From the BBC Sport website:

"However, the Wales team management have said throughout the autumn that Priestland's club team-mate Taulupe Faletau will be available against the Springboks."

"Faletau is understood to have negotiated full-release for international matches when he joined the West Country club when he joined them from Dragons in 2016."

We may be better off with Dillon Lewis on the bench as Andrews is not very good at all.

We'd be better off with my dead granny on roller skates for all the use Andrews is. If Brown has a hard time in the set piece he will at least learn from it. Andrews has had plenty of time to kick on and has failed to do so.

I tried explaining the rules of scrum engagement to my dead granny .....just couldn't understand why she couldn't drive..

I agree totally about the choice of Lewis over Andrews but he has been second choice to Domachowski...was this injury or performance as the bit I have seen of Domachowski also looked good but possibly Lewis was on the summer tour with McBryde ...but not totally sure if that helps or is a hindrance to the lad

I suppose the question about Falateu is ..are Bath willing to pay the inevitable fine that will be dished out if Bath do agree to him playing .Has Faletau played outside the "AI window" previously.

[ALunpg]

From the BBC Sport website:

"However, the Wales team management have said throughout the autumn that Priestland's club team-mate Taulupe Faletau will be available against the Springboks."

"Faletau is understood to have negotiated full-release for international matches when he joined the West Country club when he joined them from Dragons in 2016."

We may be better off with Dillon Lewis on the bench as Andrews is not very good at all.

We'd be better off with my dead granny on roller skates for all the use Andrews is. If Brown has a hard time in the set piece he will at least learn from it. Andrews has had plenty of time to kick on and has failed to do so.

I tried explaining the rules of scrum engagement to my dead granny .....just couldn't understand why she couldn't drive..

I agree totally about the choice of Lewis over Andrews but he has been second choice to Domachowski...was this injury or performance as the bit I have seen of Domachowski also looked good but possibly Lewis was on the summer tour with McBryde ...but not totally sure if that helps or is a hindrance to the lad

I suppose the question about Falateu is ..are Bath willing to pay the inevitable fine that will be dished out if Bath do agree to him playing .Has Faletau played outside the "AI window" previously.

I checked and it seems the Aussie match at the start was the one outside and Falateu was injured .But it was ok with the PL as there were 4 English internationals as was there 4 SA and Irish and other countries playing 4 matches in 2016.

Bath would be in a predicament as they wanted François Lowe back from the SA sqaud.

But it is no wonder we are a little confused .

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... y-13961644

[Numbers]

Well, apparently Andrews is available for this game, joy of joys.

[PoolerSaint]

Assiratti has been in the Blues side ahead of Lewis. Domachowski has been at loosehead along with Thyer due to Gethin & Rhys Gill being crocked.
Gotta say that's a good pool of young props at Cardiff.
Young man mountain loosehead prospect Rhys Carre is also there & was hugely impressive for Wales U20's last season.
Think Dillon Lewis just needs a good injury free run to get that 1st team spot nailed down. But it's good he has Assiratti there to push each other along with their development.

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[PoolerSaint]

Well, apparently Andrews is available for this game, joy of joys.

Frightening prospect.

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[ALunpg]

Well, apparently Andrews is available for this game, joy of joys.

Frightening prospect.

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So. its a choice between Andrews or dead grannies ....hmm

It also seems Bath may be hit with a fine for releasing Falateau....

[PoolerSaint]

Good job Faletau is available with Tipuric being unavailable due to injury as I'm guessing he'd have been coming into play 7 with Navidi moving to 8?
Think we'll see:
15. Halfpenny
14. Amos
13. Parkes
12. S Williams
11. Evans
10. Biggar
9. Davies

1. Evans
2. Owens
3. Brown
4. Hill
5. AW Jones
6. Shingler
7. Navidi
8. Faletau

Reps
W Jones
K Dacey
S Andrews
S Davies
D Lydiate
A Davies
Patchell
Watkin

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[bruce]

The cupboard is fairly bare.

[ALunpg]

Good job Faletau is available with Tipuric being unavailable due to injury as I'm guessing he'd have been coming into play 7 with Navidi moving to 8?
Think we'll see:
15. Halfpenny
14. Amos
13. Parkes
12. S Williams
11. Evans
10. Biggar
9. Davies

1. Evans
2. Owens
3. Brown
4. Hill
5. AW Jones
6. Shingler
7. Navidi
8. Faletau

Reps
W Jones
K Dacey
S Andrews
S Davies
D Lydiate
A Davies
Patchell
Watkin

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Looks about it but they seem to be OK with Webb and the chat on WO is talking of Parkes at 12 .

[Sandydragon]

Well, apparently Andrews is available for this game, joy of joys.

Frightening prospect.

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So. its a choice between Andrews or dead grannies ....hmm

It also seems Bath may be hit with a fine for releasing Falateau....

I emailed warren earlier to make a case for selection. I may not have played right head much (last time was over 10 years ago) but I’d give Andrews a run for his money.

Dear lord, are we the short p of people who can scrummage?

[morepork]

You lot are quite optimistic then?

[ALunpg]

You lot are quite optimistic then?

We are battle scarred Welsh rugby supporters ... manic is intrinsic to our nature ..between now and Friday blind faith will have taken over..then a dose of realism will return some time before ko .

[ALunpg]

Frightening prospect.

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So. its a choice between Andrews or dead grannies ....hmm

It also seems Bath may be hit with a fine for releasing Falateau....

I emailed warren earlier to make a case for selection. I may not have played right head much (last time was over 10 years ago) but I’d give Andrews a run for his money.

Dear lord, are we the short p of people who can scrummage?

Hey do you think I could wear my red shorts if so I'll come on as sub ...I'll play left head ...

I shouldn't be joking ....I would honestly say my typing and spelling is often atrocious. ..if I could only spell it ....